Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-15 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 2/14/13 11:49 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, PJ Eby wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more concerned about phishing style attacks. I don't want the PyPI admins to have to start

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-15 Thread PJ Eby
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Richard Jones rich...@python.org wrote: The bootstrap.py file would most likely have to be omitted from the usual files listing mechanisms as they are used to determine installable release packages. I would feel more comfortable with the proposed mechanism if

[Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hello Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get installed, In order to have a more secured installation process, we'd like to be able to push those files on PyPI so people can download them through https using the PSF certificate. As Phillip Eby noticed,

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Hello Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get installed, In order to have a more secured installation process, we'd like to be able to push those files on PyPI so people can download them

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 Feb 2013 05:50, Tarek Ziadé ta...@ziade.org wrote: On 2/14/13 8:37 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Hello Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get installed, In order to have a more secured

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 14.02.2013 20:28, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Hello Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get installed, In order to have a more secured installation process, we'd like to be able to push those files on PyPI so people can download them through https using the

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Donald Stufft
This isn't something automated tools are supposed to discover right? They previously know where it exists? Why does it need to be on PyPI at all? Seems like for this unusual case just keeping it someplace sane that has a good SSL cert seems like an obvious solution? Github or Bitbucket or

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm more concerned about phishing style attacks. I don't want the PyPI admins to have to start scanning for hostile names like distirbute. Isn't this an issue for regular distributions too? So how often do the

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 14.02.2013 23:10, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 15 Feb 2013 05:50, Tarek Ziadé ta...@ziade.org wrote: On 2/14/13 8:37 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Hello Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 14.02.2013 23:38, Donald Stufft wrote: On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I don't follow the reasoning here. What's the difference between uploading a .py file and a .tar.gz file ? AFAIK, the only reason why the file extensions are restricted is to prevent

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread PJ Eby
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more concerned about phishing style attacks. I don't want the PyPI admins to have to start scanning for hostile names like distirbute. I'm not sure what you mean. These things exist only for the corresponding package

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more concerned about phishing style attacks. I don't want the PyPI admins to have to start scanning for hostile names like distirbute. I'm not sure

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, PJ Eby wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com (mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com) wrote: I'm more concerned about phishing style attacks. I don't want the PyPI admins to have to start scanning for hostile names like

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 15 Feb 2013 08:38, Donald Stufft donald.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I don't follow the reasoning here. What's the difference between uploading a .py file and a .tar.gz file ? AFAIK, the only reason why the file extensions are

Re: [Catalog-sig] Allowing the upload of .py files at PyPI

2013-02-14 Thread Richard Jones
On 15 February 2013 06:28, Tarek Ziadé ta...@ziade.org wrote: Some tools (setuptools, distribute, zope, pip) use bootstrap files to get installed, In order to have a more secured installation process, we'd like to be able to push those files on PyPI so people can download them through https