Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-11 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 12:02:39 pm J. Shirley wrote: Right, and the people who use prototype are aware of the deficiencies and work around them. They're not asking for support :) Marcus is a smart guy, as evidenced continuously, but I'll never know why he uses prototype :) Likely because

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-11 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- John Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/07, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/07, John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said by others but I really prefer to do all this in my templates. It would be easy to have this in a Template Toolkit

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-11 Thread Will Smith
YES PLEASE. I have been waiting for this for a long time. Please make it happen soon, or I will be fired (for not getting ajax working). Thank you Cat Community. John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John Wang wrote: On 7/10/07, J. Shirley wrote: On 7/10/07, John Napiorkowski

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread J. Shirley
On 7/5/07, John Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/4/07, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Prototype + Scriptaculous javascript framework is junk. It doesn't work very well, the syntax is terrible, it will break other javascript on the page just by being included, and the cool

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread John Wang
On 7/10/07, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prototype.js and friends (scriptaculous, openrico, etc) are rated the lowest in those categories. It fails the robust check by having several things that don't play nice together, and also I've seen some serious cross-browser compatibility

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- John Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/07, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prototype.js and friends (scriptaculous, openrico, etc) are rated the lowest in those categories. It fails the robust check by having several things that don't play nice together, and also I've

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread J. Shirley
On 7/10/07, John Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to know. Do you know which Scriptaculous effects break Google Maps? It will be useful for planning for the future. Sorry, was too long ago to remember the specifics... it was a mouseover event that attached to the document and thus blocked

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread Jason Kohles
On Jul 10, 2007, at 12:35 PM, John Wang wrote: I think one reason prototype keeps coming up is because HTML::Prototype exists and is the only wrapper providing Perl access to JS effects. HTML::Prototype doesn't seem to have a lot of functionality in it but it can get some small things

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread J. Shirley
On 7/10/07, John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said by others but I really prefer to do all this in my templates. It would be easy to have this in a Template Toolkit plugin if you wanted, but I can't see the value of basically using perl as a code generator for Javascript. I

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread Daniel McBrearty
It's been said by others but I really prefer to do all this in my templates. It would be easy to have this in a Template Toolkit plugin if you wanted, but I can't see the value of basically using perl as a code generator for Javascript. I prefer to be closer to my sentiments exactly. Even if

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread Michael Reece
i may be the exception, but i have no hesitation in using perl (or other templating languages) to generate html, javascript, css, or even more perl. it may be harder to debug, but the productivity gains are worth it. i think RoR's rjs stuff is really keen, too. On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:08

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread John Napiorkowski
--- Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said by others but I really prefer to do all this in my templates. It would be easy to have this in a Template Toolkit plugin if you wanted, but I can't see the value of basically using perl as a code generator for Javascript.

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread John Wang
On 7/10/07, Jason Kohles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 10, 2007, at 12:35 PM, John Wang wrote: I think one reason prototype keeps coming up is because HTML::Prototype exists and is the only wrapper providing Perl access to JS effects. HTML::Prototype doesn't seem to have a lot of

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-10 Thread John Wang
On 7/10/07, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/07, John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said by others but I really prefer to do all this in my templates. It would be easy to have this in a Template Toolkit plugin if you wanted, but I can't see the value of

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-05 Thread Matt S Trout
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:23:21AM +0300, vb wrote: There is absolutely no reason to use Prototype. The Prototype + Scriptaculous javascript framework is junk. There is absolutely no reason to use... Prototype + Scriptaculous It doesn't work very well, the syntax is terrible, it

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-05 Thread John Wang
On 7/4/07, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Prototype + Scriptaculous javascript framework is junk. It doesn't work very well, the syntax is terrible, it will break other javascript on the page just by being included, and the cool effects it includes aren't even very good. There

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Thursday 28 June 2007 07:33:57 am vb wrote: HTML::Prototype is the Matt's Script Archive of javascript. possible, but don't confuse with prototype.js. Same difference. The Prototype + Scriptaculous javascript framework is junk. It doesn't work very well, the syntax is terrible, it will

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-07-04 Thread vb
There is absolutely no reason to use Prototype. The Prototype + Scriptaculous javascript framework is junk. There is absolutely no reason to use... Prototype + Scriptaculous It doesn't work very well, the syntax is terrible, it will break other javascript on the page just by being

Re: [Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-06-28 Thread vb
HTML::Prototype is the Matt's Script Archive of javascript. possible, but don't confuse with prototype.js. (The engaged by a professional opinions is very important for my, but...) I having prob with Html::Prototype with Catalyst. A solution: use prototype.js as is, and not from

[Catalyst] html::prototype syntax in new Cat version

2007-06-27 Thread Will Smith
Hi, This might be a pain in the neck to someone but please be patient if you read the mail. I having prob with Html::Prototype with Catalyst. It works like a champ with older version of Cat, but in the current version, the syntax might be a bit changed and I just cannot get it. I just tried