Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
I'm wondering why you not just use an init script or systemd service unit to start/stop/restart your app? Best regards, Alex On 2015-10-27 15:55, Len Jaffe wrote: If all you want is to start a process and leave, then huponexit and/or nohup+background are fine. If you want to start a process (event in the foreground) and leave it running while you detatch, and come back later to the same session, then tmux is the way to go. You can learn enough tmux to be dangerous in ten minutes. The only features of ti that i use are window splitting, session detach, and session attach. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com<mailto:dim...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would say having HUPONEXIT false would be the more exotic feature set in this case. tmux is actually a very good low rent low traffic short lifespan application deployment strategy ;). On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Octavian Rasnita <<mailto:orasn...@gmail.com>orasn...@gmail.com<mailto:orasn...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set to false we can simply run processes in background appending & at the end of the command line. So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need other features offered by them. --Octavian - Original Message - From: Lasse Makholm<mailto:la...@unity3d.com> To: The elegant MVC web framework<mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <<mailto:orasn...@gmail.com>orasn...@gmail.com<mailto:orasn...@gmail.com>> wrote: When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using perl program.pl<http://program.pl> > something.log 2>&1 & then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program continues to run. I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't need it anymore. Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a real bash console directly? Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it /L --Octavian - Original Message - From: Len Jaffe<mailto:lenja...@jaffesystems.com> To: <mailto:kie...@diment.org> kie...@diment.org<mailto:kie...@diment.org> ; The elegant MVC web framework<mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? & just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job control. If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session running, and reattach to the session later. It is well work looking into. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <<mailto:dim...@gmail.com>dim...@gmail.com<mailto:dim...@gmail.com>> wrote: Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo useful tool. Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <<mailto:catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk<mailto:catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>> wrote: A further search online, throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run in the background needs input now and again. - Original Message - From: Andrew<mailto:catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> To: The elegant MVC web framework<mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? Why is it better to use these over using an "&"? Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness all round? Yours, Andrew. - Original Message - From: Kieren Diment<mailto:dim...@gmail.com> To: The elegant MVC web framework<mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly recommended. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <<mailto:lenja...@jaffesystems.com>lenja...@jaffesystems.com<mailto:lenja...@jaffesystems.com>> wrote: I'd still consider using screen or tmux... On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <<mailto:catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk<mailto:catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>> wrote: Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. ^_^ Am learning these little server trick
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set to false we can simply run
processes in background appending & at the end of the command line.
So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need other features offered by them.
--Octavian
- Original Message -
From: Lasse Makholm
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using
perl program.pl > something.log 2>&1 &
then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program
continues to run.
I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't
need it anymore.
Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a real
bash console directly?
Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it
/L
--Octavian
- Original Message -
From: Len Jaffe
To: kie...@diment.org ; The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
& just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job
control.
If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session
running, and reattach to the session later.
It is well work looking into.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long
running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an editor in
the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo useful tool.
Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew
<catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote:
A further search online,
throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to
run in the background needs input now and again.
- Original Message -
From: Andrew
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?
Why is it better to use these over using an "&"?
Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their
usefulness all round?
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: Kieren Diment
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?
Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly
recommended.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe
<lenja...@jaffesystems.com> wrote:
I'd still consider using screen or tmux...
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew
<catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote:
Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =).
You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D.
^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-).
[Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind
enough to promptly
respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!]
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu>
To: "The elegant MVC web framework"
<catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when
commandline closed...?
What about wrapping your shell session with screen?
$ man screen
--Trevor
On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote:
>
> I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's
psgi script (still
> via fast cgi),
> and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes,
and reload the
> server when changes are detected.
>
> It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is
still open.
> The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any
watching for
> changes, killing, and restarting no longer h
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
I would say having HUPONEXIT false would be the more exotic feature set in this case. tmux is actually a very good low rent low traffic short lifespan application deployment strategy ;). On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set to false we can simply > run processes in background appending & at the end of the command line. > So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need other features offered by > them. > > --Octavian > > - Original Message - > *From:* Lasse Makholm <la...@unity3d.com> > *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline > closed...? > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using >> perl program.pl > something.log 2>&1 & >> then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program >> continues to run. >> I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't >> need it anymore. >> >> Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a >> real bash console directly? >> > > Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it > > /L > > >> >> --Octavian >> >> - Original Message ----- >> *From:* Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> >> *To:* kie...@diment.org ; The elegant MVC web framework >> <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >> closed...? >> >> & just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job >> control. >> If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session >> running, and reattach to the session later. >> >> It is well work looking into. >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long >>> running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an >>> editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo >>> useful tool. Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> A further search online, >>>> throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run >>>> in the background needs input now and again. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> *From:* Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> >>>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>>> closed...? >>>> >>>> >>>> Why is it better to use these over using an "&"? >>>> >>>> Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness >>>> all round? >>>> >>>> Yours, >>>> Andrew. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> *From:* Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>>> closed...? >>>> >>>> Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly >>>> recommended. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd still consider using screen or tmux... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew < >>>>> catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). >>>>>> >>>>>> You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. >>>>>> >>>>>> ^_^ Am learning thes
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
If all you want is to start a process and leave, then huponexit and/or nohup+background are fine. If you want to start a process (event in the foreground) and leave it running while you detatch, and come back later to the same session, then tmux is the way to go. You can learn enough tmux to be dangerous in ten minutes. The only features of ti that i use are window splitting, session detach, and session attach. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would say having HUPONEXIT false would be the more exotic feature set in > this case. tmux is actually a very good low rent low traffic short > lifespan application deployment strategy ;). > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set to false we can simply >> run processes in background appending & at the end of the command line. >> So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need other features offered by >> them. >> >> --Octavian >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Lasse Makholm <la...@unity3d.com> >> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >> closed...? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using >>> perl program.pl > something.log 2>&1 & >>> then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program >>> continues to run. >>> I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I >>> didn't need it anymore. >>> >>> Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a >>> real bash console directly? >>> >> >> Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell: >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it >> >> /L >> >> >>> >>> --Octavian >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> *From:* Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> >>> *To:* kie...@diment.org ; The elegant MVC web framework >>> <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>> closed...? >>> >>> & just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job >>> control. >>> If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session >>> running, and reattach to the session later. >>> >>> It is well work looking into. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long >>>> running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an >>>> editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo >>>> useful tool. Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew < >>>> catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A further search online, >>>>> throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to >>>>> run in the background needs input now and again. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> >>>>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>>>> closed...? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why is it better to use these over using an "&"? >>>>> >>>>> Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness >>>>> all round? >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Andrew. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> *From:* Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 P
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using
perl program.pl > something.log 2>&1 &
then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program
continues to run.
I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't need
it anymore.
Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a real bash
console directly?
--Octavian
- Original Message -
From: Len Jaffe
To: kie...@diment.org ; The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
& just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job control.
If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session running,
and reattach to the session later.
It is well work looking into.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long
running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an editor in
the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo useful tool.
Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>
wrote:
A further search online,
throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run
in the background needs input now and again.
- Original Message -
From: Andrew
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?
Why is it better to use these over using an "&"?
Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness
all round?
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: Kieren Diment
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?
Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly
recommended.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe
<lenja...@jaffesystems.com> wrote:
I'd still consider using screen or tmux...
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew
<catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote:
Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =).
You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D.
^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-).
[Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to
promptly
respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!]
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu>
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?
What about wrapping your shell session with screen?
$ man screen
--Trevor
On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote:
>
> I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi
script (still
> via fast cgi),
> and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and
reload the
> server when changes are detected.
>
> It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still
open.
> The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any
watching for
> changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I
can tell).
>
> Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload
(i.e.
> Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's
terminal window
/
> end the SSH session?
>
>
> Many thanks for any insights offered,
>
> Yours,
> Andrew.
>
>
> ___
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Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasn...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using > perl program.pl > something.log 2>&1 & > then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program > continues to run. > I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't > need it anymore. > > Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a real > bash console directly? > Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it /L > > --Octavian > > - Original Message - > *From:* Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> > *To:* kie...@diment.org ; The elegant MVC web framework > <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline > closed...? > > & just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job control. > If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session > running, and reattach to the session later. > > It is well work looking into. > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long >> running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an >> editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo >> useful tool. Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc. >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> A further search online, >>> throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run >>> in the background needs input now and again. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message - >>> *From:* Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> >>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>> closed...? >>> >>> >>> Why is it better to use these over using an "&"? >>> >>> Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness >>> all round? >>> >>> Yours, >>> Andrew. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> *From:* Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>> closed...? >>> >>> Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly >>> recommended. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd still consider using screen or tmux... >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew < >>>> catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). >>>>> >>>>> You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. >>>>> >>>>> ^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-). >>>>> >>>>> [Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to >>>>> promptly >>>>> respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!] >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Andrew. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> >>>>> To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline >>>>> closed...? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What about wrapping your shell session with screen? >>>>> >>>>> $ man screen >>>>> >>>>> --Trevor >>>>> >>>>> On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script >>>>> (still >>>>> > via fast cgi)
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script (still via fast cgi), and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the server when changes are detected. It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can tell). Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal window / end the SSH session? Many thanks for any insights offered, Yours, Andrew. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
I didn't know about screen - so thanks! =) Sounds like it could be a workaround! Any other ways? - Original Message - From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? What about wrapping your shell session with screen? $ man screen --Trevor On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: > > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script (still > via fast cgi), > and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the > server when changes are detected. > > It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. > The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for > changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can tell). > > Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. > Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal window / > end the SSH session? > > > Many thanks for any insights offered, > > Yours, > Andrew. > > > ___ > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. ^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-). [Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to promptly respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!] Yours, Andrew. - Original Message - From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? What about wrapping your shell session with screen? $ man screen --Trevor On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: > > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script (still > via fast cgi), > and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the > server when changes are detected. > > It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. > The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for > changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can tell). > > Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. > Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal window / > end the SSH session? > > > Many thanks for any insights offered, > > Yours, > Andrew. > > > ___ > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Why is it better to use these over using an "&"?
Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness all
round?
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: Kieren Diment
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly recommended.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> wrote:
I'd still consider using screen or tmux...
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk>
wrote:
Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =).
You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D.
^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-).
[Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to promptly
respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!]
Yours,
Andrew.
- Original Message -
From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu>
To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
What about wrapping your shell session with screen?
$ man screen
--Trevor
On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote:
>
> I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script
(still
> via fast cgi),
> and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the
> server when changes are detected.
>
> It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open.
> The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for
> changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can
tell).
>
> Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e.
> Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal
window
/
> end the SSH session?
>
>
> Many thanks for any insights offered,
>
> Yours,
> Andrew.
>
>
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Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo useful tool. Also handy for persistent IRC connections etc. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote: > A further search online, > throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run in > the background needs input now and again. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> > *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline > closed...? > > > Why is it better to use these over using an "&"? > > Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness all > round? > > Yours, > Andrew. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Kieren Diment <dim...@gmail.com> > *To:* The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> > *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline > closed...? > > Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly recommended. > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> > wrote: > >> I'd still consider using screen or tmux... >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). >>> >>> You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. >>> >>> ^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-). >>> >>> [Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to >>> promptly >>> respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!] >>> >>> Yours, >>> Andrew. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> >>> To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? >>> >>> >>> What about wrapping your shell session with screen? >>> >>> $ man screen >>> >>> --Trevor >>> >>> On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: >>> > >>> > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script >>> (still >>> > via fast cgi), >>> > and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload >>> the >>> > server when changes are detected. >>> > >>> > It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. >>> > The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching >>> for >>> > changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can >>> tell). >>> > >>> > Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. >>> > Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal >>> window >>> / >>> > end the SSH session? >>> > >>> > >>> > Many thanks for any insights offered, >>> > >>> > Yours, >>> > Andrew. >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >>> > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >>> > Searchable archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >>> > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >>> Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >>> Searchable archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >>> Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >>> Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >>> Searchable archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >>> Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ &g
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
I'd still consider using screen or tmux... On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> wrote: > Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). > > You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. > > ^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-). > > [Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to promptly > respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!] > > Yours, > Andrew. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> > To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? > > > What about wrapping your shell session with screen? > > $ man screen > > --Trevor > > On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: > > > > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script > (still > > via fast cgi), > > and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the > > server when changes are detected. > > > > It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. > > The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for > > changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can > tell). > > > > Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. > > Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal > window > / > > end the SSH session? > > > > > > Many thanks for any insights offered, > > > > Yours, > > Andrew. > > > > > > ___ > > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > > Searchable archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > > > > ___ > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > > > ___ > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > -- Len Jaffe - Information Technology Smoke Jumper - lenja...@jaffesystems.com 614-404-4214@LenJaffe <https://www.twitter.com/lenJaffe> www.lenjaffe.com Host of Code Jam Columbus <http://www.meetup.com/techlifecolumbus/> - @CodeJamCMH <https://www.twitter.com/CodeJamCMH> Curator of Advent Planet <http://www.lenjaffe.com/AdventPlanet/> - An Aggregation of Online Advent Calendars. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
What about wrapping your shell session with screen? $ man screen --Trevor On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script (still via fast cgi), and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the server when changes are detected. It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can tell). Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal window / end the SSH session? Many thanks for any insights offered, Yours, Andrew. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?
Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly recommended. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <lenja...@jaffesystems.com> wrote: > I'd still consider using screen or tmux... > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <catalystgr...@unitedgames.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =). >> >> You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D. >> >> ^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-). >> >> [Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to promptly >> respond, with this little gem, =D. Yay!] >> >> Yours, >> Andrew. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Trevor Leffler" <tleff...@uw.edu> >> To: "The elegant MVC web framework" <catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...? >> >> >> What about wrapping your shell session with screen? >> >> $ man screen >> >> --Trevor >> >> On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote: >> > >> > I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script >> (still >> > via fast cgi), >> > and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the >> > server when changes are detected. >> > >> > It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open. >> > The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for >> > changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can >> tell). >> > >> > Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e. >> > Restarter.pm, etc), to continue to run after I close OSX's terminal >> window >> / >> > end the SSH session? >> > >> > >> > Many thanks for any insights offered, >> > >> > Yours, >> > Andrew. >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >> > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >> > Searchable archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >> > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ >> > >> >> ___ >> List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >> Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >> Searchable archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >> Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ >> >> >> ___ >> List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk >> Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst >> Searchable archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ >> Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ >> > > > > -- > Len Jaffe - Information Technology Smoke Jumper - > lenja...@jaffesystems.com > 614-404-4214@LenJaffe <https://www.twitter.com/lenJaffe> > www.lenjaffe.com > Host of Code Jam Columbus <http://www.meetup.com/techlifecolumbus/> - > @CodeJamCMH <https://www.twitter.com/CodeJamCMH> > Curator of Advent Planet <http://www.lenjaffe.com/AdventPlanet/> - An > Aggregation of Online Advent Calendars. > > > ___ > List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk > Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst > Searchable archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ > Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ > > ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
