On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 07:28:46PM +0200, Marcus Ramberg wrote:
On 4. mai. 2008, at 15.39, Matt S Trout wrote:
Then again, I originally learned Catalyst by reading the source;
took me
about 8 hours. The only thing that confused me was the dispatcher,
which is
why I rewrote most of it
On 4. mai. 2008, at 15.39, Matt S Trout wrote:
Then again, I originally learned Catalyst by reading the source;
took me
about 8 hours. The only thing that confused me was the dispatcher,
which is
why I rewrote most of it later when I became a contrib :)
And now it confuses the rest of us
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:00:47PM -0400, Dave Baker wrote:
I have enjoyed the Catalyst book, although the publisher has been
unacceptably slow at publishing errata I've submitted to its web page,
so I'd like to see more like it.
Packt are complete idiots; community errata link here:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:34:57AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
* On Tue, Apr 29 2008, Peter Corlett wrote:
[...]
Right, and I need to read the entire Linux and libc source code to be
able to write a Unix
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Kornak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I would like any book on Catalyst, even if it was only a
single chapter in a larger MVC treatment. I bought Jonathan's book and
contrary to another poster's opinion found it quite useful.
-Andrew
This is
Dare I say, an Enlightened Perl Development book?
*prod prod*
HEY MST AND MDK I AM LOOKING AT YOU GUYS.
*cough*
Actually a Developers Perl book sounds like a good idea.
Perl for Enterprise: A look at Enlightened Perl Development
That way you could cover quite a few camps at once, if it
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Mark Keating
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dare I say, an Enlightened Perl Development book?
*prod prod*
HEY MST AND MDK I AM LOOKING AT YOU GUYS.
*cough*
Actually a Developers Perl book sounds like a good idea.
Perl for Enterprise: A look at
* On Tue, Apr 29 2008, Mark Keating wrote:
Dare I say, an Enlightened Perl Development book?
Perl for Enterprise: A look at Enlightened Perl Development
But first, the EPO needs to create a publishing company called ORLY.
--
print just = another = perl = hacker = if $,=$
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 03:01:47AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
[...]
Anyway, I hate to break this to you... if you want to know every detail of
how the code works, you have to read the code. Reading code is the most
important skill a programmer can have, so I suggest biting the bullet,
* On Tue, Apr 29 2008, Peter Corlett wrote:
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 03:01:47AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
[...]
Anyway, I hate to break this to you... if you want to know every detail of
how the code works, you have to read the code. Reading code is the most
important skill a programmer
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:34:57AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
* On Tue, Apr 29 2008, Peter Corlett wrote:
[...]
Right, and I need to read the entire Linux and libc source code to be
able to write a Unix application.
It will help, yes.
It may well help, but it is not necessarily the best
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:51 AM, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dare I say, an Enlightened Perl Development book?
Being in the middle of 5 or 6 apps that all use the 'enlightened' stack of
perl libraries I can personally say that I would _love_ to have this book to
recommend to our
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 12:06 -0500, Cory Watson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:51 AM, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dare I say, an Enlightened Perl Development book?
Being in the middle of 5 or 6 apps that all use the 'enlightened'
stack of perl libraries I can
On 29. april. 2008, at 19.02, Peter Corlett wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:34:57AM -0500, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
* On Tue, Apr 29 2008, Peter Corlett wrote:
[...]
Right, and I need to read the entire Linux and libc source code to
be
able to write a Unix application.
It will help, yes.
Ali M. wrote:
i completly oppose another cookbook for catalyst
catalyst need an indepth book that describe its design!
the first book was very much a learning by example book, which is
close to a cookbook
and the main complain or the bad review where that, after reading the
book, developers
Andrew Kornak wrote:
Personally, I would like any book on Catalyst, even if it was only a
single chapter in a larger MVC treatment. I bought Jonathan's book and
contrary to another poster's opinion found it quite useful.
-Andrew
+1
Rod
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On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 10:03 -0500, Mitch Jackson
Andrew Kornak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/28/2008 03:19:39 PM:
Personally, I would like any book on Catalyst, even if it was only a
single chapter in a larger MVC treatment. I bought Jonathan's book and
contrary to another poster's opinion found it quite useful.
-Andrew
Hopefully I
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:11 AM, rahed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/27/08, Ali M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i completly oppose another cookbook for catalyst
catalyst need an indepth book that describe its design!
the first book was very much a learning by example book, which is
So as I said - I contacted O'Reilly to request info/submit interest in a
Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices. I've been in contact with a chap called
Andy Oram who seems to be O'Reilly's Perl Guy (FWIW he also seems a nice,
but very busy, guy). I was waiting for him to give me the nod before posting
i completly oppose another cookbook for catalyst
catalyst need an indepth book that describe its design!
the first book was very much a learning by example book, which is
close to a cookbook
and the main complain or the bad review where that, after reading the
book, developers still didnt not
Ali M. wrote:
i completly oppose another cookbook for catalyst
catalyst need an indepth book that describe its design!
the first book was very much a learning by example book, which is
close to a cookbook
and the main complain or the bad review where that, after reading the
book, developers
On 4 Apr 2008, at 13:17, Kieren Diment wrote:
On 4 Apr 2008, at 23:01, Ian Sillitoe wrote:
[...] Or like others have suggested, a cookbook with a large
variety of
useful examples showing best practices for different situations.
That's exactly what I would like to see. I got the first
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Ali M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Education (or knowledge depending on how you translate it) is As
Indispensable As Water and Air
-- Taha Hussein (an Egyptian scholar)
One of the maing benefits of Free Software is Free education, I don't
understand when a Free
Jon wrote:
[...] Or like others have suggested, a cookbook
with a large variety of useful examples showing best practices for
different situations.
That's exactly what I would like to see. I got the first book (thanks!)
and would buy such a cookbook immediately.
Specifically, I'd be
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From: Ali M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 3/27/2008 5:29 AM
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] So, what do we want in the -next
FWIW, I am very much for both free and commercial docs. The more docs
of both types the better.
I would prefer that experts loved by the community be given incentives
to do both.
Books are nice, but I would probably prefer purchasing just the
digital version of a book right now.
No shipping or
I just want to suggest, since soon Catalyst will move to a new wiki,
why not celebrate the opportunity, by improving the documentation.
I was personally always ... mmm... not sure how to describe this
always surprised/annoyed ... that beside the documentation we always
needed a book!
For
Ali - I take your point, but I disagree that authors shouldn't write text
books. I like reading good books offline and I appreciate that really good
books take a great deal of time and effort to write. I think it's completely
fair enough that authors of good text books should receive some
-Original Message-
From: Ali M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:42 AM
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] So, what do we want in the -next- book?
I just want to suggest, since soon Catalyst will move to a new wiki,
why not celebrate
On Mar 10, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
Writing
documentation gets them nothing; they already know how to use
Catalyst,
so they're not helping themselves in any way.
I completely agree with your other points, but the above is untrue.
Better docs can mean the life or death of a
I recently made an inquiry to O'Reilly regarding this very same subject.
I like O'Reilly and was curious if they were planning on publishing any
articles or books on Catalyst. What animal would be on the cover? I
don't know the community very well and was unable to respond as to whom
might be a
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 09:25:07PM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we
should
be looking
Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we should
be looking at something more in-depth / intermediate to advanced.
What do you
Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we should
be looking at something more in-depth / intermediate to advanced.
What do you
Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I don't know if my suggestions are good, but here they are:
- Sample configurations for a simple Catalyst app to work with mod_perl,
with mod_fastcgi,
On 19 Feb 2008, at 05:17, Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was
time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so
we should
be looking at something more in-depth /
John's book has been very useful, and still is, as I'm now using it as a
reference, even though as others have pointed out it's more of a tutorial
than a reference.
Still, there are some topics I wish they were covered at more depth: the
fundamental stuff and the more advanced stuff.
Matt S Trout wrote:
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we should
be looking at something more in-depth / intermediate to advanced.
What do you
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we should
be looking at something more in-depth / intermediate to advanced.
What do you guys think?
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I agree. Cookbooks are what I'm most inclined to buy and use.
I am working on an online Cat book right now. It's a similar pattern
to Rockway's book, which I've bought twice (for me and for my office)
and recommend for others in my tome. I'm doing a small web app, step
by step like an advent
Matt S Trout wrote:
I personnaly missed in John's book something about exceptions.
Since a fair few of you will now have John's book, I figured it was time
to ask what you'd want from a second book.
I guess the existing one provides a pretty good tutorial style, so we should
be looking at
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