Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Kieren Diment
The catalyst docs could do with a substantial review, they haven't had much attention lately. In particular there could do with being a good index. I think the issue with people thinking catalyst is too big/complex is that lots and lots of developers are used to a procedural approach to dealing

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Kieren Diment
umm from something they're *more* familiar with. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote: The catalyst docs could do with a substantial review, they haven't had much attention lately. In particular there could do with being a good index. I think the issue with

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Robert Brown
I find that getting involved in a project like Catalyst is much like releasing your own CPAN module - possibly daunting at first, hence some reluctance? From my own experience only, it took years to finally find something I was comfortable to release, but when I did, it then starts to flow.

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Kieren Diment The catalyst docs could do with a substantial review, they haven't had much attention lately. In particular there could do with being a good index. I think the issue with people thinking catalyst is too big/complex is that lots and lots of developers are used to a

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Lance A. Brown
Kieren Diment wrote on 1/3/2015 3:43 PM: 3. Catalyst used to be hard to install (and catalyst had a lot of influence on improving the cpan toolchain during the relatively early days), but this isn't the case any more, but the perception lingers in places. Catalyst isn't nearly as difficult

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Robert Brown
Is this something we can resolve, or simply make better as its install process, that maybe needs explaining better? On 03/01/15 22:26, Lance A. Brown wrote: Kieren Diment wrote on 1/3/2015 3:43 PM: 3. Catalyst used to be hard to install (and catalyst had a lot of influence on improving the

Re: [Catalyst] Advent Calendar... Grant proposal...

2015-01-03 Thread Lance A. Brown
Robert Brown wrote on 1/3/2015 5:36 PM: Is this something we can resolve, or simply make better as its install process, that maybe needs explaining better? I don't think it can be resolved unless Catalyst wants to move in the same direction Mojolicious has taken, which I don't agree with. I