Re: [Catalyst] Re-enable digest mode?

2008-01-13 Thread Matt S Trout
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 03:43:25PM -0500, Lampert, Hugh wrote:
 Well, I respectfully submit that the purpose of a digest is so people can 
 archive the mailing list themselves in their e-mail systems, one digest per 
 day.  An RSS feed does not easily allow this, and for a busy list like this 
 one, a subscriber might receive many messages per day, the number of which 
 could rapidly increase into the thousands in the inbox.  Filtering these many 
 messages into a folder, as you suggest, will more than likely mean that for 
 me they will never get looked at at all, as I receive many, many emails that 
 require my attention every day.
 I use Outlook for my corporate mail system and I know your opinion of the way 
 it works Matt.  I like to keep up with Catalyst as much as possible but not 
 enough to have to monitor an RSS feed or thousands of individual e-mails in 
 my business mailbox. I have an alternate suggestion.  Re-enable digests for 
 those who subscribe to the traditional function of a mailing list and don't 
 want to be flooded by individual e-mails, and revoke and block the 
 subscriptions of those who subscribe but don't know how to respond properly 
 and spam the list by responding improperly to the digest.

I'd note that you mailed the list instead of the list admin address
which was the wrong place to do so, and just replied top-posting with the
entire message quoted below to no aim, which is exactly the problem that we
have with digests.

Should I disable your subscription too?

 I have already unsubscribed from the Catalyst list for my personal mail box, 
 which collects on a somewhat limited portable micro drive.  If I can't get a 
 digest I guess I will have to unsubscribe from the list from my corporate 
 mail box as well, as I don't want to awkwardly manage thousands of individual 
 e-mails.  While I can make some time to scan the subjects of the digest when 
 it comes into my mailbox during my work day, I'm afraid I will not have time 
 to monitor yet another RSS feed, so it will be so long Catalyst info.  Too 
 bad for me, I guess.

You can put together an outlook mail rule trivially to move the mails into
a subfolder, and skim the subjects in there. I used to do that for lists back
when I was at a job that mandated outlook. Plus that way you can actually use
threading, which makes the skimming even quicker :)

If you really want digests back on, find me a way to detect replies to digests
and reject them at the border; we're using exim and standard mailman
integration so if you're sufficiently motivated to have a go it should be
easy enough to get an equivalent setup to test.

 Interestingly, I will continue to subscribe to the DBIx-Class list, as the 
 digest for that has NOT been turned off as of yet.  Are the subscribers to 
 that list just more intelligent?

My experience is that a lot of people seem to ignore the available evidence
and assume that Catalyst is an all-in-one project with DBIC and TT - the number
of DBIC or TT related questions on here rather than the relevant lists would
certainly fit with this.

In any case, digest replies haven't become a problem there and I have no
desire to disable them unless they do.

  Matt S Trout   Need help with your Catalyst or DBIx::Class project?
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[Catalyst] Re-enable digest mode?

2008-01-11 Thread Lampert, Hugh
Up until this week I was receiving the Catalyst list e-mails in digest form.  
This week I'm getting individual e-mails.  When I checked the list server 
options it told me digest mode had been disabled by the administrator.  It's 
hard for me to process multiple individual e-mails from the Catalyst list along 
with my other e-mail; is there any way digest mode could be re-enabled?


Hugh Lampert
IT Specialist
Information Technology (3261)
Landesbank Baden-Württemberg
New York Branch
280 Park Avenue, 31st Floor - West Building
New York, NY 10017
Phone: (212) 584-1775
Fax:   (212) 584-1799

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel Quevillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:38 AM
To: The elegant MVC web framework
Subject: [Catalyst] Serving html pages


I am quite new with catalyst and I'd like to know how I could serve some html 
pages (actually documentation) e.g.: ?

When I try to integrate such link in my template page, Pages are not served and 
as mentioned in the C::P::Static::Simple it does not serve .html file.

Is there any magic thing to do without changing 
MyApp-config-{static}-{ignore_extensions} ?

Thanks a lot


Emmanuel Quevillon
Biological Software and Databases Group
Institut Pasteur
+33 1 44 38 95 98
tuco at_ pasteur dot fr

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