Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Ashley Pond V
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Alexander Hartmaier
 wrote:
> Because I've just read perlvar: $REAL_USER_ID or $UID instead of $<.

I think this is generally excellent advice but I want to argue against
it in this case.

UID => sub { $< } is sufficiently semantic *and* edifying. E.g., Oh!
That's the special var for UID. It finally makes sense.

use English;
UID => sub { $UID } is redundant to point of being annoying and even
distracting (to me).

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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Alexander Hartmaier  writes:
> Because I've just read perlvar: $REAL_USER_ID or $UID instead of $<.

assuming "use English"

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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dag-Erling Smørgrav  writes:
> Thanks, that's a neat workaround (combined with unlink_on_exit).

I was wrong about that last bit - unlink_on_exit automatically defaults
to a sane value (unlink the file if you created it, leave it alone if it
already existed).  If anything, you'd want to set it to 0 so sessions
are persistent across server restarts.

BTW, this is not a perfect solution, since all processes owned by the
same user will now share a session cache.  However, this should rarely
(if ever) be a problem.

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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Alexander Hartmaier
Because I've just read perlvar: $REAL_USER_ID or $UID instead of $<.

- Alex


Am 2012-05-23 15:54, schrieb Ashley Pond V:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav  wrote:
>> As an alternate solution, is there a way to have it use a different file
>> name every time it starts?
> Here's a snippet to do that:
>
> conf.yml
> --
> Plugin::Session:
>   storage: /tmp/some-prefix-__UID__.session
>
> MyApp.pm
> --
>  "Plugin::ConfigLoader" => {
>  substitutions => {
>  UID => sub { $< },
>  },
>  },
>
> https://metacpan.org/module/Catalyst::Plugin::ConfigLoader
>
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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Ashley Pond V  writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav  writes:
> > As an alternate solution, is there a way to have it use a different file
> > name every time it starts?
> Here's a snippet to do that: [...]

Thanks, that's a neat workaround (combined with unlink_on_exit).

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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Ashley Pond V
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav  wrote:
> As an alternate solution, is there a way to have it use a different file
> name every time it starts?

Here's a snippet to do that:

conf.yml
--
Plugin::Session:
  storage: /tmp/some-prefix-__UID__.session

MyApp.pm
--
 "Plugin::ConfigLoader" => {
 substitutions => {
 UID => sub { $< },
 },
 },

https://metacpan.org/module/Catalyst::Plugin::ConfigLoader

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Re: [Catalyst] Plugin::Session lazy start

2012-05-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Will Crawford  writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav  writes:
> > Is there a way to have C::Plugin::Session (or C::P::S::Store::FastMmap)
> > initialize the cache on first use instead of at startup?
> { ..., unlink_on_exit => 0 } in your config.

"delete the cache when you're done" is very different from "don't create
the cache until you actually need it".

> > As an alternate solution, is there a way to have it use a different file
> > name every time it starts?
> Personally I go with having a relative path in the myapp_local.conf
> that puts them all in a tmp/ subdirectory of where I'm running the
> server, then an absolute path in myapp.conf for the real thing.

The script runs with the exact same configuration as the application,
including myapp_local.conf.  That's the whole point of using a Catalyst
script instead of a standalone program.

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