Re: [Catalyst] Validation of entered content
Thanks for the comprehensive reply! That will keep my busy for a while. On 4/11/2011 10:25 AM, Peter Edwards peter-at-dragonstaff.co.uk |Catalyst/Allow to home| wrote: There are two main JS editors, the one above and TinyMCE, you have to be careful though. 1) People paste a Word document paragraph in as HTML and it becomes invalid. Try offering a paste-from-word button to bring up a box they paste into, then send that to the backend to be run through http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Text::Demoroniser before you add it to the content area. 2) Hitting bugs in these editors giving you invalid XHTML. What you can do is - validate by sending the content server-side before save and check with a DTD schema validator like http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ and on failure disallow save with a popup warning - then offer an option to correct invalid XHTML where you send the content to the backend, run it through htmltidy, then bring it back to the content area; see the HTML - XHTML docs in http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/tidy_man.html ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Validation of entered content
On 4/11/2011 10:25 AM, Peter Edwards peter-at-dragonstaff.co.uk |Catalyst/Allow to home| wrote: I've used this before - perhaps it will work for you: http://ckeditor.com/ That looks interesting, but digging through the documentation it seems that its native output format is XHTML, and although it mentions that plugin providers _could_ provide processors for BBCode etc. it doesn't link to any page of available plugins, nor do I see that on their site. I'm convinced that as a first step I should make the user-supplied content be stored in some other format. Then, replacing the textarea with a fancy WYSIWYG editor would be an optional step, and I would like that to be invisible to the app. So, the GUI editor should populate the POSTed data with the same kind of markup that I would ask the user to type directly. Of course, I suppose the Catalyst way would be to allow any kind of markup as long as there's an adapter for it. The abstractions I've seen already in CPAN spit out whole HTML files with header and body, not fragments. And I'm not terribly interested in building something like that right now. I will however keep the decision abstracted and isolated in the code. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Validation of entered content
I've used this before - perhaps it will work for you: http://ckeditor.com/ cheers -nw On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:28 AM, John M. Dlugosz wxju46g...@snkmail.comwrote: I have a form where an admin can change a part of the content on a page. The form lets someone do it without having to update the files on the server in a more traditional manner; BUT, it must be correct XHTML. If the admin types a p or a stray '' for that matter, it will render the resulting page not well-formed. Combine that with the feature of serving XHTML to browsers that accept it, and the site breaks on browsers other than IE. What's a good way to validate something programmatically before committing it? Better yet, is there a rich editor or wiki- or phpbbs-like translator that I might use for soliciting the input that I might use instead? The current content has a couple paragraphs and a bulleted list. So it's not just a simple blank, but must allow an amount of rich content. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Validation of entered content
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:28 AM, John M. Dlugosz wxju46g...@snkmail.comwrote: I have a form where an admin can change a part of the content on a page. The form lets someone do it without having to update the files on the server in a more traditional manner; BUT, it must be correct XHTML. If the admin types a p or a stray '' for that matter, it will render the resulting page not well-formed. Combine that with the feature of serving XHTML to browsers that accept it, and the site breaks on browsers other than IE. On 11 April 2011 15:33, Nicholas Wehr catal...@bionikchickens.com wrote: I've used this before - perhaps it will work for you: http://ckeditor.com/ There are two main JS editors, the one above and TinyMCE, you have to be careful though. 1) People paste a Word document paragraph in as HTML and it becomes invalid. Try offering a paste-from-word button to bring up a box they paste into, then send that to the backend to be run through http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Text::Demoroniser before you add it to the content area. 2) Hitting bugs in these editors giving you invalid XHTML. What you can do is - validate by sending the content server-side before save and check with a DTD schema validator like http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ and on failure disallow save with a popup warning - then offer an option to correct invalid XHTML where you send the content to the backend, run it through htmltidy, then bring it back to the content area; see the HTML - XHTML docs in http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/tidy_man.html Regards, Peter http://perl.dragonstaff.co.uk ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Validation of entered content
From: John M. Dlugosz wxju46g...@snkmail.com I have a form where an admin can change a part of the content on a page. The form lets someone do it without having to update the files on the server in a more traditional manner; BUT, it must be correct XHTML. If the admin types a p or a stray '' for that matter, it will render the resulting page not well-formed. Combine that with the feature of serving XHTML to browsers that accept it, and the site breaks on browsers other than IE. What's a good way to validate something programmatically before committing it? Better yet, is there a rich editor or wiki- or phpbbs-like translator that I might use for soliciting the input that I might use instead? The current content has a couple paragraphs and a bulleted list. So it's not just a simple blank, but must allow an amount of rich content. Better than storing html, store a Textile format which is easy readable and similar to plain text when not rendered, but which renders as valid html. You can use http://search.cpan.org/~bchoate/Text-Textile-2.12/lib/Text/Textile.pm or you can use http://search.cpan.org/~idoperel/DBIx-Class-InflateColumn-Markup-Unified-v0.21.1/lib/DBIx/Class/InflateColumn/Markup/Unified.pm for beeing able to choose if you want to store the markup as Textile, Markdown or BBCode. The Textile format allows the biggest flexibility and you can also use html elements in it, but you can create with its features headings, lists of different formats, tables with many settings, links, images, and many other things. Octavian ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
