Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Hi everyone, Having fueled some of the passion about hay-cutting and grassland bird conservation, I wanted to clarify a few points. Thanks to the many who provided resources and links to additional information. I am not an expert on farming or legal issues, but I can provide a bit more

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
I was about to say that anyone who wants to discuss the matter cogently with actual farmers and hayfield managers would do well to consult the Resources page on the Cayuga Bird Club website, where this link lives: Cornell Cooperative Extension has published a very helpful document on Hayfield

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed - state land, too

2021-06-15 Thread Poppy Singer
I feel so sad about this. On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:39 PM Alicia Plotkin wrote: > More generally, another problem are policies by NYS Parks and the Wildlife > Management areas. Grassland areas under their control increasingly seem to > be rented out for farming. For example, part of Willard

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Joseph Wetmore
Federal law will supersede State law. Joe On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:56:28 PM EDT, Donna Lee Scott wrote: Related to discussion on migratory bird act & lack if protections:  New York has a “Right to Farm” law.  I have not read it, but it probably would muddy the waters

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Marty Schlabach
I think there needs to be a distinction made between mowing for agricultural purposes, such as making hay, and mowing non-agricultural fields and roadsides. For farmers making hay, early mowing is important for the nutritional value of the hay. It is unreasonable to expect farmers to make

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Nancy Cusumano
For hay/farm fields, yes. But these fields of Cornell’s are not hay fields. Are they? They just mow it down and leave it there. That’s was my understanding. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 15, 2021, at 8:56 PM, Donna Lee Scott wrote: > > Related to discussion on migratory bird act & lack if

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Donna Lee Scott
Related to discussion on migratory bird act & lack if protections: New York has a “Right to Farm” law. I have not read it, but it probably would muddy the waters further. Donna Scott Lansing Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Alicia mailto:t...@ottcmail.com>> wrote: I have zero

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Alicia
I have zero expertise in this area, but it looks like the courts have at best a mixed record in interpreting unintentional negative effects as violations of the MBTA. Take a look at this summary , and also this

[cayugabirds-l] Shorebirds with Michael O'Brien

2021-06-15 Thread Peter Saracino
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread david nicosia
The MBTA is completely ignored in this case and has been for decades.   Why is that?   Anyone know? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:27 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote: #yiv4178151928 #yiv4178151928 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv4178151928

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
I don’t think that’s true. Birds, nests, eggs, and their parts all come under protection from the MBTA. If feathers are covered, nestlings are covered. Kevin From: bounce-125714362-3493...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of david nicosia Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 5:55 PM To: darlingtonbets ;

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread anneb . clark
That is a critical piece that has made it hard for me, on Hile School rd, to help the farmers meet me more than half way. I end up saying after the 4th, but the later the better. After years of redwing work in and around the pond units in the 1990s, our usual pattern was a sharp decline in

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Patrizia Sione
Cornell has a cooperative extension program with an agricultural section, which provides education on “good” agricultural practices to local farmers. I remember reading somewhere that fields are mowed in June to cut off seed heads from weeds. I contacted cooperative extension asking if this is

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Sandy Podulka
Ken and all, Thank you so much for this clear, concise summary of this issue. I have some friends I am trying to convince to not mow too soon, so will use your words there, too. Can anyone tell me what is a "safe" date for mowing? Until when should I ask them to delay? Thanks, Sandy Podulka

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread david nicosia
Young nestling birds aren't protected by the migratory bird act.  I guess that is true since this has been going on for decades. Wish they were.  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:33 PM, darlingtonbets wrote: Good! And let's try to get some publicity into the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread darlingtonbets
Good! And let's try to get some publicity into the Ithaca Journal. BetsySent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Nancy Cusumano Date: 6/15/21 4:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Kenneth V. Rosenberg" Cc: Linda Orkin , CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re:

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread darlingtonbets
Can someone take on writing a letter to the Ithaca Journal - if possible, with some photos?  How about a petition, too?It's one thing if it's farmers who have to support themselves, but CORNELL?! I can just imagine all their rationalizations!BetsySent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Melissa Groo
Also, if anyone would get photos of the distressed parents flying/hovering in the same frame as the mowers, those photos would go a long way too. (I would volunteer but I’m out of town right now.) The photos could be used in an article or editorial of some kind, that needs to be written. Melissa

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed - state land, too

2021-06-15 Thread Alicia Plotkin
More generally, another problem are policies by NYS Parks and the Wildlife Management areas.  Grassland areas under their control increasingly seem to be rented out for farming.  For example, part of Willard Wildlife Management area that 25 yrs ago was in grass that only got mowed in late

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Nancy Cusumano
Ken, May I use your words in my letters? I think I will go straight to the top with this issue. I will paraphrase... Nancy On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:07 PM Kenneth V. Rosenberg wrote: > Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In a > nutshell, what is happening today in

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Regi Teasley
Ken, This is useful information. And thank you for your serious efforts. I sometimes think that what we need to do is bring this to a wider public. Some photos of trashed nests would go a long way to making the point. Of course Cornell wants to look good while doing little (consider their

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In a nutshell, what is happening today in those fields, repeated over the entire U.S., is the primary cause of continued steep declines in Bobolink and other grassland bird populations. Last year, because of the delays in mowing

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Sheila Ann Dean
I don't know anything about why fields are mowed, or when, but I've noticed this year and last that the far Mineah Road fields have been mowed when Bobolinks are nesting. I believe that's Cornell land. Sheila On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Linda Orkin wrote: > After a couple year hiatus in

[cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

2021-06-15 Thread Linda Orkin
After a couple year hiatus in which the Freese Road fields across from the gardens have been mowed late in the season allowing at least Bobolinks to be done with their nesting and for grassland birds to be lured into a false feeling of security so they have returned and I’ve counted three

[cayugabirds-l] DCL Community Cruise date correction_should be June 23rd!

2021-06-15 Thread Astrid Jirka
Dear Cayuga Birders, My apologies. It seems I can't keep up with the time flying by. The date of our Birds of Cayuga Community Cruise is JUNE 23rd. Description and correct link are below. ~~~ I wanted to let you know about a cruise being offered aboard the MV Teal, run by the non-profit

[cayugabirds-l] Binocular eyepiece covers

2021-06-15 Thread Suan Hsi Yong
If you lost your binocular eyepiece covers at Myers Park (at last night's Cayuga Bird Club picnic), let me know. Suan PS. It was fun seeings nests of both Baltimore and Orchard Orioles, but the Red-Headed Woodpecker did not show, though a couple of Red-Bellied Woodpeckers did hang out high above