Re:[cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds Mulberry Tree

2011-06-24 Thread bilbaker
Hi Bob, I have lived with Mulberries (both red and white varieties) in my yard at several points in my life and never seen anything like this. I have often eaten them myself. I have seen birds eating Mulberries to no ill effect, and I have seen birds intoxicated from Mulberries, as well as

[cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds-Mulberry Tree

2011-06-24 Thread Susan Norvell
We had a mulberry tree behind our garage, when we lived in Hamden, Ct. 30 years ago. When the fruit was well ripened, and starting to fall to the ground and rot, we frequently saw robins staggering around and flying unstably, as if drunk, but the only dead bird was one robin that appeared to

[cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear (whitish- green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset. http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm -Geo On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote: I just had lunch with a friend who has two

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death?? On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote: The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset. http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm -Geo On

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows? -Geo On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote: Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death?? On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote: The unripe fruits and the milky

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER the trees. Bob On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote: Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows? -Geo On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Asher Hockett
A couple of thoughts: Alcohol poisoning. With the recent very hot spell, coinciding with sugar development in the berries, fermentation is a good liklihood. The link posted by Geo refers to mild toxicity. However, that is directed at us for human consumption. Birds have a lower threshold for

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit: http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port -Geo On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote: Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER the trees. Bob On Jun 23,

Fw: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread B Mcaneny
cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree Were the birds really dead or in coma? There is a variety of red geranium when Japanese Beetle feed on them the get intoxicated and fall down to ground. But after few

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Meena Haribal
/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf -Original Message- From: bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit: http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port -Geo On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote: Nope. No windows