[cayugabirds-l] Cayugarba blue-gray gnatcatcher in east shore park...
Cayugarba blue-gray gnatcatcher in east shore park found by kevin mcgowan 8:50 --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Thanks for sharing this, Ken. Good sightings, Chris. But let's not forget the importance of counting all of those boring Chickadees and Juncos and the dedicated counters who contribute! Someone has to do it! Laura Laura Stenzler l...@cornell.edu On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg k...@cornell.edu wrote: In talking to Chris Wood some more today, I realized that he had seen several other species yesterday that were not found by official counters of the CBC -- really shows what kind of diversity a top birder can find when they are covering the whole area looking for target birds instead of walking all over counting chickadees and juncos. In addition to the Surd Scoter, Long-tailed Diuck, Glaucous Gull, N. Goshawk, and N. Saw Whet Owl, Chris also had numbers of CANVASBACK from Hog Hole in the afternoon, a HORNED GREBE near the lighthouse, and a WHITE-CROWNED SPARROW with Tree Sparrows somewhere near Drake Rd. That would bump our 2013 total to 98, a new Ithaca high count, PLUS Chris saw Green-winged Teal, N. Shoverler, and Lesser black-backed Gull all juist north of the circle at Myer's Point. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Thanks Kevin for this important clarification that will lift the spirits of participants who trudged many hours on a snowy, blowy day. Thanks to all of you who spent the last day of holidays counting birds together. It is quite an amazing group effort and quite a wonderful bonding experience. Thanks to those birds that consented to reveal themselves. And thanks to you Kevin for a wonderful compilation as always. Linda Orkin Christmas Bird Count Co-coordinator. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: Ken wrote -- really shows what kind of diversity a top birder can find when they are covering the whole area looking for target birds instead of walking all over counting chickadees and juncos True, but species count is actually just a game and distraction from the value of a Christmas Bird Count. The true importance of a CBC comes from the numbers of chickadees and juncos that can be compared through the years. That's why the protocol is for extensive coverage of guaranteed boring areas, not just everyone trying to max out their daily list. Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] E Ith Rec Way owl
I have tried two different days to see the Red morph screech owl, but it was not there or was sleeping out of sight; Given the cold weather,I wouldn't wonder that it would be down inside, out of the wind! Donna Scott Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Mark Chao markc...@imt.org wrote: Having received Bob McGuire's kind tip during a fortuitous street encounter not long before he posted here, I took my kids out to the East Ithaca Recreation Way to look for the screech-owl. At 4:35 PM, we found it exactly where Bob specified. First the owl was sleeping low in the cavity, with eyes barely above the lip of the hole. Then the owl turned sideways and tilted its head back, still sleeping. It looked uncannily like a person snoozing in the front passenger seat of a car. Finally, as we gathered ourselves to leave, the owl woke up and perched in full frontal view. For a couple of minutes its eyes conveyed a strange inexpressive frozen glare, but then it began turning its head and looking around, maybe watching dogs cavorting Snip -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!! All our counters are important. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? I am not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows its fairly small size. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tobias Dean tobydea...@gmail.com wrote: The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows fairly small size. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ryan Bakelaar rbakel...@aol.com wrote: Looks like a Wood Duck. The beige flank feathers with the white tips are diagnostic. It looks like a decent spread wing (or two) can be made from the specimen, so the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates (located at Sapsucker Woods) could put the carcass to good use. Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? -Original Message- From: Tobias Dean tdea...@twcny.rr.com To: cayugabirds-L cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:43 am Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
I am sure Ken did not mean to dismiss the efforts of the regular counters on New Year's Day. Email can be too terse quick, sometimes, may not say quite what we want it to. Chris's sightings WERE pretty neat to read about. Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Marie P Read m...@cornell.edu wrote: I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!! All our counters are important. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] bad bird seed revisited
I just talked with the manufacturer of Garden Treasure bird seed distributed by Lowes. The highlights for me were: Pretty much all Thistle feed comes from Myanmar, Ethiopia, or India. There is a trade embargo against Myanmar now so current seed comes from Ethiopia or India. Every companies feed that comes into the US goes through one of two cleaning plants, one on each coast. I’m not too clear on the process these plants perform but I know they heat the seed and attempt to remove chaff. From there, these two plants sell to seed manufacturers or in this case, importers. I was told the problem I am most likely having is mold due to the seed’s moisture and 1) plastic packaging, and 2) temperature cycling. We are in the process of trying to track down the date code of the bad seed and have it removed from the shelves. He was Very knowledgeable and Very kind. One other interesting tidbit I gleaned from the conversation, although Milo is a less-expensive filler seed up north here, it is a preferred seed in Arizona where many of the birds are ground feeders. Glenn Endicott, NY www.wilsonswarbler.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
John, you are right, I didn't look at the feet closely enough. So, would this bird have been hit in the air nearby and eaten here, or attacked down near Treman Lake nearby and carried over here? Or left elsewhere and carried by a fox or coyotes? guess we will never know. Thanks for the help and I will drop off at the Lab as soon as I can. There has been a red tailed hawk around lately. Toby On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM, John VanNiel vanni...@flcc.edu wrote: Those are webbed feet. I was thinking wood duck as well given the irridescence on the back. From: bounce-72554867-3493...@list.cornell.edu [ bounce-72554867-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean [ tdea...@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:42 AM To: cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? I am not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows its fairly small size. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tobias Dean tobydea...@gmail.commailto: tobydea...@gmail.com wrote: The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows fairly small size. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ryan Bakelaar rbakel...@aol.commailto: rbakel...@aol.com wrote: Looks like a Wood Duck. The beige flank feathers with the white tips are diagnostic. It looks like a decent spread wing (or two) can be made from the specimen, so the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates (located at Sapsucker Woods) could put the carcass to good use. Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? -Original Message- From: Tobias Dean tdea...@twcny.rr.commailto:tdea...@twcny.rr.com To: cayugabirds-L cayugabirds-L@cornell.edumailto: cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:43 am Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Gnatcatcher at East Shore Park, Ithaca
This morning I had a BLUE-GRAY GNATCATCHER foraging in the trees at East Shore Park in Ithaca. It was actively moving and hover-gleaning around the bare trees right by the parking lot. I have put a few images at http://picasaweb.google.com/KevinJ.McGowan/Winter20122013#5829245472958650930 and the following photos. I would think this has to be the same bird that Tim, Jay, and Brad saw in early December here and at Stewart Park. Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
I am kind of surprised that people can shoot wood ducks, I have no problem with the common ducks and geese being hunted but wood ducks just seem too special to me. Are there sufficient numbers of wood ducks to maintain a breeding stock? and on another note regarding carcasses, in the fall I found a pigeon(rock dove) with an aluminum band apparently from a Schenectady homing pigeon breeder, at least that is what I gleaned from the abbreviations on the band online. I tried calling but got no answer and was going to mail it the address I found but haven't gotten around to it. Now on to observing live birds. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM, John VanNiel vanni...@flcc.edu wrote: Any of those theories are possible. Let me add one more: Could it have been a waterfowl hunter that crippled the bird and couldnt recover it for whatever reason? Birds of prey will typcially breast out a bird like that. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
That's a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Hi all, Thank you Donna for correctly surmising that my quick late night email did not convey the message I had intended. I indeed was one of the counters who slogged through the day counting common birds (and looking for unusual species) -- albeit in the howling winds on the lakeshore rather than in the snowy woods (I had only 9 chickadees for the day!). So of course the real value of the CBC is in the numbers of common birds and how they vary from year to year, and this requires the hard work of all the counters. But I do believe another aspect of the CBC is the quest for variety, and I think a valuable strategy on any CBC might be to have a floater spot-checking important areas throughout the day to pick up species that could otherwise be missed (I'm the one, after all, who missed all of Chris's rare water birds). My real intent was just to alert people that these birds were around and that the CBC total was even higher than we had thought and indeed probably set a count record -- I do think that is pretty cool. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edu On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Donna Scott wrote: I am sure Ken did not mean to dismiss the efforts of the regular counters on New Year's Day. Email can be too terse quick, sometimes, may not say quite what we want it to. Chris's sightings WERE pretty neat to read about. Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Marie P Read m...@cornell.edu wrote: I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!! All our counters are important. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[cayugabirds-l] [bluewing-group] bad bird seed revisited
Re the milo seed--yes, there was an interesting publication based on a feeder-food preference study set up through the Citizen Science program at CLO to document what seeds were preferred. That was when the clear geographic difference in use of milo was documented. Interesting--some of the same species, such as mourning doves, were involved across a wide range. But Eastern ones didn't like milo, Central ones did, as I recall. I will try to find the study. Anne On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Glenn Wilson wrote: I just talked with the manufacturer of Garden Treasure bird seed distributed by Lowes. The highlights for me were: Pretty much all Thistle feed comes from Myanmar, Ethiopia, or India. There is a trade embargo against Myanmar now so current seed comes from Ethiopia or India. Every companies feed that comes into the US goes through one of two cleaning plants, one on each coast. I’m not too clear on the process these plants perform but I know they heat the seed and attempt to remove chaff. From there, these two plants sell to seed manufacturers or in this case, importers. I was told the problem I am most likely having is mold due to the seed’s moisture and 1) plastic packaging, and 2) temperature cycling. We are in the process of trying to track down the date code of the bad seed and have it removed from the shelves. He was Very knowledgeable and Very kind. One other interesting tidbit I gleaned from the conversation, although Milo is a less-expensive filler seed up north here, it is a preferred seed in Arizona where many of the birds are ground feeders. Glenn Endicott, NY www.wilsonswarbler.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012?--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" k...@cornell.edu wrote:That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object?We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday!KevinFrom: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foulYesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AEthanks Toby Dean--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year.--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 01:15 PM, nutter.d...@me.com wrote:From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012?--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" k...@cornell.edu wrote:That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object?We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday!KevinFrom: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foulYesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AEthanks Toby Dean--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 01:15 PM, nutter.d...@me.commailto:nutter.d...@me.com wrote: From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu wrote: That's a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
Only if Chris saw it!! : ) Linda. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, nutter.d...@me.com wrote: From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Quite a few birders spend part of the count day dutifully covering their territory, and another part poaching on other territories. That's what I did, but I spent so much time on my own area that it was getting dark by the time I got to the lake. I wasn't able to find as much as I hoped, but I did find a couple species and numbers that the assigned group earlier had missed. This is not to fault the assigned birders. Some areas are worth covering multiple times, such as the lake where birds move around a lot, and weather can change, and hunting stirs them up or let's them return after cease-fire.One question is how to count effort by additional non-oreganized observers, especially if they are not counting common birds, but only seeking the unusual ones? Does time spent in a hot tub count as owling? Another question is how to keep envy in check so that everyone does cover their territory before or after chasing rarities.--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg k...@cornell.edu wrote:Hi all, Thank you Donna for correctly surmising that my quick late night email did not convey the message I had intended. I indeed was one of the counters who slogged through the day counting common birds (and looking for unusual species) -- albeit in the howling winds on the lakeshore rather than in the snowy woods (I had only 9 chickadees for the day!). So of course the real value of the CBC is in the numbers of common birds and how they vary from year to year, and this requires the hard work of all the counters. But I do believe another aspect of the CBC is the quest for variety, and I think a valuable strategy on any CBC might be to have a "floater" spot-checking important areas throughout the day to pick up species that could otherwise be missed (I'm the one, after all, who missed all of Chris's rare water birds). My real intent was just to alert people that these birds were around and that the CBC total was even higher than we had thought and indeed probably set a count record -- I do think that is pretty cool. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edu On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Donna Scott wrote: I am sure Ken did not mean to dismiss the efforts of the regular counters on New Year's Day. Email can be too terse quick, sometimes, may not say quite what we want it to. Chris's sightings WERE pretty neat to read about. DonnaSent from my iPhone Donna ScottOn Jan 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Marie P Read m...@cornell.edu wrote:I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!!All our counters are important.MarieMarie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USAPhone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.eduhttp://www.marieread.com***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTuneshttp://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! DonnaSent from my iPhone Donna ScottOn Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" k...@cornell.edu wrote: --Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.htmlPlease submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/-- --Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.htmlPlease submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
I thought the amount of snow on top of it might indicate how long it had been there.--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 01:23 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote:Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week.Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foulI meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year.--Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 01:15 PM, nutter.d...@me.com wrote:From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012?--Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" k...@cornell.edu wrote:That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object?We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday!KevinFrom: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foulYesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AEthanks Toby Dean--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
Has anyone made the revision of Murder most fowl yet? Sorry, sorry, I know. --English prof who can't help herself (Caroline) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. ** ** Meena ** ** *From:* bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of * nutter.d...@me.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul ** ** I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 01:15 PM, nutter.d...@me.com wrote: From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin *From:* bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [ mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edubounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Tobias Dean *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME*** * Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES** ** Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME*** * Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES** ** Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME*** * Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES** ** Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME*** * Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES** ** Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/
[cayugabirds-l] N Shrike stil visible from Cayuga Vista Dr.
I drove by there at lunch and the shrike was sitting very cooperatively on the wires. Also just N of East Shore Park is a large raft of Redhead with a few other species mixed in, including at least 1 Greater Scaup. Cheers, Jeff -- Jeff Gerbracht Lead Application Developer Neotropical Birds, Breeding Bird Atlas, eBird Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2117 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Two things: 1. If I had a hot tub that's where I would be owling ! 2. I was shoveling snow off the roof during the CBC so I didn't get a chance to poach anyone's area unfortunately, but I did get a yard/ feeder list for the day. I tried calling it into the Lab from 5-6PM but nobody was taking calls. Do we not do feeder lists during the CBC anymore ? Gary From: bounce-72555460-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555460-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:31 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 Quite a few birders spend part of the count day dutifully covering their territory, and another part poaching on other territories. That's what I did, but I spent so much time on my own area that it was getting dark by the time I got to the lake. I wasn't able to find as much as I hoped, but I did find a couple species and numbers that the assigned group earlier had missed. This is not to fault the assigned birders. Some areas are worth covering multiple times, such as the lake where birds move around a lot, and weather can change, and hunting stirs them up or let's them return after cease-fire. One question is how to count effort by additional non-oreganized observers, especially if they are not counting common birds, but only seeking the unusual ones? Does time spent in a hot tub count as owling? Another question is how to keep envy in check so that everyone does cover their territory before or after chasing rarities. --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, Thank you Donna for correctly surmising that my quick late night email did not convey the message I had intended. I indeed was one of the counters who slogged through the day counting common birds (and looking for unusual species) -- albeit in the howling winds on the lakeshore rather than in the snowy woods (I had only 9 chickadees for the day!). So of course the real value of the CBC is in the numbers of common birds and how they vary from year to year, and this requires the hard work of all the counters. But I do believe another aspect of the CBC is the quest for variety, and I think a valuable strategy on any CBC might be to have a floater spot-checking important areas throughout the day to pick up species that could otherwise be missed (I'm the one, after all, who missed all of Chris's rare water birds). My real intent was just to alert people that these birds were around and that the CBC total was even higher than we had thought and indeed probably set a count record -- I do think that is pretty cool. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Donna Scott wrote: I am sure Ken did not mean to dismiss the efforts of the regular counters on New Year's Day. Email can be too terse quick, sometimes, may not say quite what we want it to. Chris's sightings WERE pretty neat to read about. Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Marie P Read m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!! All our counters are important. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu wrote: -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.eduhttp://www.mail-archive.com/%3ca%20href=/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edumailto:cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
The other issue I’ve been wondering about is counts of migrating birds crossing the count circle, in particular migrating swans this year. Perhaps this was addressed at the compilation dinner, otherwise I suspect the 396 total that Dave posted in his quick summary involves flocks being counted multiple times. Unless flock size and timing is noted, I don’t see how this can be avoided except perhaps if we take the highest count by one survey party. While covering section VI, I noted southbound swan flocks of 19, 15, 29, and 53 between 2:15 and 3PM (I have exact times and trajectories if anybody’s interested). All these flocks likely passed over sections VIII IX and some would have been visible from sections V VII. Unless redundant counts were somehow culled out at the compilation, I wouldn’t be surprised if these four flocks made up the bulk of the 396 swans in Dave’s quick summary. Typically in the past we’ve had no substantial visible migration on count days, though I remember one year more than a decade ago when the count coincided with the passage of a brutal cold front and there was massive southbound evacuation of 1000s of Canvasback and other Aythya. As I recall, there wasn’t a problem in double counting that year because only one party in section VIII happened to witness the event. Bill E -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
Gary. Donna was there from 4-6 but may have been on another line. Your feeder bird list is still valid. Probably you can just send it straight to Kevin. Thanks. Linda. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Gary Kohlenberg jg...@cornell.edu wrote: Two things: 1. If I had a hot tub that’s where I would be owling ! 2. I was shoveling snow off the roof during the CBC so I didn’t get a chance to poach anyone’s area unfortunately, but I did get a yard/ feeder list for the day. I tried calling it into the Lab from 5-6PM but nobody was taking calls. Do we not do feeder lists during the CBC anymore ? Gary From: bounce-72555460-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555460-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:31 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 Quite a few birders spend part of the count day dutifully covering their territory, and another part poaching on other territories. That's what I did, but I spent so much time on my own area that it was getting dark by the time I got to the lake. I wasn't able to find as much as I hoped, but I did find a couple species and numbers that the assigned group earlier had missed. This is not to fault the assigned birders. Some areas are worth covering multiple times, such as the lake where birds move around a lot, and weather can change, and hunting stirs them up or let's them return after cease-fire. One question is how to count effort by additional non-oreganized observers, especially if they are not counting common birds, but only seeking the unusual ones? Does time spent in a hot tub count as owling? Another question is how to keep envy in check so that everyone does cover their territory before or after chasing rarities. --Dave Nutter On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg k...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, Thank you Donna for correctly surmising that my quick late night email did not convey the message I had intended. I indeed was one of the counters who slogged through the day counting common birds (and looking for unusual species) -- albeit in the howling winds on the lakeshore rather than in the snowy woods (I had only 9 chickadees for the day!). So of course the real value of the CBC is in the numbers of common birds and how they vary from year to year, and this requires the hard work of all the counters. But I do believe another aspect of the CBC is the quest for variety, and I think a valuable strategy on any CBC might be to have a floater spot-checking important areas throughout the day to pick up species that could otherwise be missed (I'm the one, after all, who missed all of Chris's rare water birds). My real intent was just to alert people that these birds were around and that the CBC total was even higher than we had thought and indeed probably set a count record -- I do think that is pretty cool. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edu On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Donna Scott wrote: I am sure Ken did not mean to dismiss the efforts of the regular counters on New Year's Day. Email can be too terse quick, sometimes, may not say quite what we want it to. Chris's sightings WERE pretty neat to read about. Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Marie P Read m...@cornell.edu wrote: I agree with Kevin and Donna...and especially so since my first Mt Pleasant bird on Jan 1st was a decidedly not-commonplace Common Raven!! All our counters are important. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-72554644-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott [d...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:43 AM To: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 I agree with your reply to Ken. Also, our so-called boring areas sometimes give us quite a thrill, as when I found the Barred Owl first thing January 1! Donna Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1)
Re:[cayugabirds-l] feeder counts
Hi Gary, I was taking CBC feeder count calls from 4 - 6:15 pm at the O Lab on Jan. 1, compilation night. Perhaps you did not dial the extension # given in count day information. The phone at the front desk is pretty restricted and I was not allowed access to some of the regular lab numbers. I did try to get a message someone left at one of the other regular numbers, but could not access it. Perhaps that was yours? Give your feeder data to Kevin McGowan to add to the 13 other feeder counts we submitted; I am sure he can still add it! Donna Scott - Original Message - From: Gary Kohlenberg To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013 Two things: 1. If I had a hot tub that's where I would be owling ! 2. I was shoveling snow off the roof during the CBC so I didn't get a chance to poach anyone's area unfortunately, but I did get a yard/ feeder list for the day. I tried calling it into the Lab from 5-6PM but nobody was taking calls. Do we not do feeder lists during the CBC anymore ? Gary snip -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Red-necked Grebe between red lighthouse piling c...
Red-necked Grebe between red lighthouse piling cluster seen from west shore. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
I don't think murder has been proven yet. Maybe it was suffering and someone gave it the coop de gräce. ChrisP (OK, going to wash my hands now) On Jan 3, 2013, at 13:35 , Caroline Manring wrote: Has anyone made the revision of Murder most fowl yet? Sorry, sorry, I know. --English prof who can't help herself (Caroline) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.commailto:nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
I think we should all duck and cover, as the raft of bad puns are taking over this thread. -Pete _ Pete Marchetto Engineering Physicist, CLO/BRP Grad Student, BEE 1.607.254.6281 Got a brand new shipment of electrical equipment, it's addressed to the bottom of the sea. -- Linnell and Flansburgh, 2007 On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Chris Pelkie chris.pel...@cornell.edumailto:chris.pel...@cornell.edu wrote: I don't think murder has been proven yet. Maybe it was suffering and someone gave it the coop de gräce. ChrisP (OK, going to wash my hands now) On Jan 3, 2013, at 13:35 , Caroline Manring wrote: Has anyone made the revision of Murder most fowl yet? Sorry, sorry, I know. --English prof who can't help herself (Caroline) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.commailto:nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
Maybe it was an aix murder. Whoever is re-sponsa-ble should be brought to justice. Okay that was really bad haha. Sorry. On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Pete Marchetto wrote: I think we should all duck and cover, as the raft of bad puns are taking over this thread. -Pete _ Pete Marchetto Engineering Physicist, CLO/BRP Grad Student, BEE 1.607.254.6281 Got a brand new shipment of electrical equipment, it's addressed to the bottom of the sea. -- Linnell and Flansburgh, 2007 On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Chris Pelkie chris.pel...@cornell.edu wrote: I don't think murder has been proven yet. Maybe it was suffering and someone gave it the coop de gräce. ChrisP (OK, going to wash my hands now) On Jan 3, 2013, at 13:35 , Caroline Manring wrote: Has anyone made the revision of Murder most fowl yet? Sorry, sorry, I know. --English prof who can't help herself (Caroline) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Fwd: seed preferences
Answers and links! (I think this went just to me by mistake) Begin forwarded message: From: Anne Marie Johnson annemariejohn...@frontiernet.net Date: January 3, 2013 5:37:11 PM EST To: Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: seed preferences The seed preference test Anne referred to was conducted by CLO in the early 1990s. The research was reported in the Lab's newsletter, BirdScope (which has since morphed into Living Bird News). You can see the articles here: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/Publications/Birdscope/Autumn1994/spt94084.htm http://www.birds.cornell.edu/Publications/Birdscope/Winter1995/milo95091.htm http://www.birds.cornell.edu/Publications/Birdscope/Winter1995/seedpref95091.htm Anne Marie Johnson On 1/3/2013 12:30 PM, Anne Clark wrote: Re the milo seed--yes, there was an interesting publication based on a feeder-food preference study set up through the Citizen Science program at CLO to document what seeds were preferred. That was when the clear geographic difference in use of milo was documented. Interesting--some of the same species, such as mourning doves, were involved across a wide range. But Eastern ones didn't like milo, Central ones did, as I recall. I will try to find the study. Anne On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Glenn Wilson wrote: I just talked with the manufacturer of Garden Treasure bird seed distributed by Lowes. The highlights for me were: Pretty much all Thistle feed comes from Myanmar, Ethiopia, or India. There is a trade embargo against Myanmar now so current seed comes from Ethiopia or India. Every companies feed that comes into the US goes through one of two cleaning plants, one on each coast. I’m not too clear on the process these plants perform but I know they heat the seed and attempt to remove chaff. From there, these two plants sell to seed manufacturers or in this case, importers. I was told the problem I am most likely having is mold due to the seed’s moisture and 1) plastic packaging, and 2) temperature cycling. We are in the process of trying to track down the date code of the bad seed and have it removed from the shelves. He was Very knowledgeable and Very kind. One other interesting tidbit I gleaned from the conversation, although Milo is a less-expensive filler seed up north here, it is a preferred seed in Arizona where many of the birds are ground feeders. Glenn Endicott, NY www.wilsonswarbler.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] More CBC birds for 2013
There was some discussion of potential multiple-counting of Tundra Swan flocks,but not a flock-by-flock analysis, and I don't think any adjustments were made among sectors at the compilation. Sector leaders may have tried to adjust among parties in their sector beforehand. I think it would be a good and interesting thing to try to figure out.My notes from the compilation were:Sector IV: 23Sector V: 40Sector VI: 116Sector VII: 95Sector VIII: 122Total: 396For my part, I was on Cliff Park Road just above Taylor Place on West Hill in the City of Ithaca when I heard and saw my first flock at 2:08pm. I counted 14 birds, but I could have been off by one, so this could have been your group of 15. They were east of me headed south up the Cayuga Inlet valley. I was at the south end of Richard Place at 2:58pm when another flock went by,also well to my east, southbound up Inlet Valley. It was a larger group and harder to count because they were massed in a C which I was viewing from the side, not a simple V or line, and I had trouble getting my scope on them through the trees, so they were already past me when I finally got a look and then I looked at the time. I estimated 60 birds, but this could have been a flock of 53. They . .Later I heard another flock but never saw them and did not count them or note the time.I gave Sector VII leader Marty Schlabach the numbers and I think the times of my flocks.I don't know what accounted for the total of 95 for Sector VII, whether it was additional flock of 21 or someone else's more reliable counts overall.--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 03:03 PM, Bill Evans wrev...@clarityconnect.com wrote:The other issue I’ve been wondering about is counts of migrating birds crossing the count circle, in particular migrating swans this year. Perhaps this was addressed at the compilation dinner, otherwise I suspect the 396 total that Dave posted in his quick summary involves flocks being counted multiple times. Unless flock size and timing is noted, I don’t see how this can be avoided except perhaps if we take the highest count by one survey party.While covering section VI, I noted southbound swan flocks of 19, 15, 29, and 53 between 2:15 and 3PM (I have exact times and trajectories if anybody’s interested). All these flocks likely passed over sections VIII IX and some would have been visible from sections V VII. Unless redundant counts were somehow culled out at the compilation, I wouldn’t be surprised if these four flocks made up the bulk of the 396 swans in Dave’s quick summary.Typically in the past we’ve had no substantial visible migration on count days, though I remember one year more than a decade ago when the count coincided with the passage of a brutal cold front and there was massive southbound evacuation of 1000s of Canvasback and other Aythya. As I recall, there wasn’t a problem in double counting that year because only one party in section VIII happened to witness the event.Bill E--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcass identification-murder most foul
Nice! Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Teresa Pegan wrote: Maybe it was an aix murder. Whoever is re-sponsa-ble should be brought to justice. Okay that was really bad haha. Sorry. On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Pete Marchetto wrote: I think we should all duck and cover, as the raft of bad puns are taking over this thread. -Pete _ Pete Marchetto Engineering Physicist, CLO/BRP Grad Student, BEE 1.607.254.6281 Got a brand new shipment of electrical equipment, it's addressed to the bottom of the sea. -- Linnell and Flansburgh, 2007 On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Chris Pelkie chris.pel...@cornell.edumailto:chris.pel...@cornell.edu wrote: I don't think murder has been proven yet. Maybe it was suffering and someone gave it the coop de gräce. ChrisP (OK, going to wash my hands now) On Jan 3, 2013, at 13:35 , Caroline Manring wrote: Has anyone made the revision of Murder most fowl yet? Sorry, sorry, I know. --English prof who can't help herself (Caroline) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Dave, I guess you have to prove that it was alive in 2013. So need to do accurate time of death on this bird even to count for the count week. Meena From: bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72555400-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.commailto:nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:16 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
