[cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Liisa S. Mobley
There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Geo Kloppel
The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical limnology can be read here: http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Liisa S. Mobley

[cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Lake Birding Van Tour

2014-02-09 Thread Chris Lajewski
Cayuga Lake Birding Van Tour Feb. 12, Wednesday, 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Cayuga Lake is an Audubon designated Important Bird Area because of the incredible number of waterfowl that use the lake during winter and migration seasons. Hop in the Montezuma Audubon Center van for an excursion to the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread John Confer
Historically, Lake Superior did freeze over entirely. The current open water during winter allows for much greater evaporation that would occur if the ice cover were 100%. One of the major contributors to the drop in the level of the Great Lakes is the additional winter evaporation associated

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north. Chris's hill is the big rise north of Levanna, if one doesn't know local names. South of that, the lake was a combination of frozen patches and open patches. This is the most ice I've seen since 1994, and then it didn't

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Ann Mitchell
My understanding is that the lake completely froze over was 1912. If someone has a different date, that would be great! Ann Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Carl Steckler
With both Miliken Station ( or what ever it is called now) and the Cornell lake source cooling adding warm water it almost impossible for the lake to completely freeze over, there will always be some open water. It really is just a matter of how much. Also for the record, having lived in the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Geo Kloppel
My grandmother's photo album contains some photos of the famous 1912 Seneca Lake freeze-over. Hasn't happened again since then. -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Ann Mitchell annmitchel...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that the lake completely froze over was 1912. If someone

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
Yeah, global warming is happening alright, you just have to look around. According to the arctic weather web site http://www.athropolis.com/temperature/coldreport2.php due north of us in Nunavut is cold, but Barrow, Alaska has been consistently warmer than Ithaca for weeks, and is currently ten

[cayugabirds-l] Sunday Excursion to Dories for Lunch

2014-02-09 Thread bob mcguire
At the urging of our food column editor, Steve Fast, I led a small group of bird club members on a trip up the lake to Dories (Aurora) for lunch. Good food, good prices, and we found a few good birds along the way. There were gulls on the ice off East Shore Park, but they were mostly hunkered

[cayugabirds-l] Lake Freezing

2014-02-09 Thread Tom
Lake-source cooling doesn't add significant heat to the lake, even when it's running in the summer (something like the equivalent of 4 hrs of sunlight over a year). Cayuga Lake froze from shore to shore @ Aurora (the widest point) in '78-'79, when what was then Milliken Station was operating

[cayugabirds-l] Lake Freezing

2014-02-09 Thread Tom
Linda, Didn't the Lake actually freeze from shore to shore @ Aurora in '78-'79 when Sissy Farenthold declared it so cancelled Wells classes? And Ms Mobley, A short answer to why Seneca Cayuga don't freeze easily is that they are examples of the surface area to volume problem. Although their

[cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Susan Fast
A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life.  Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912.  A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world. Steve Fast --

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over

2014-02-09 Thread Liisa S. Mobley
Hi everyone Thank you for all of the stimulating and informative answers! Ice is interesting. My favorite ice image this year was the snowy owl at Stewart Park gently bobbing up and down on a small chunk of ice at dusk. -Liisa Liisa Mobley On Feb 9, 2014 6:30 PM, Tom atvaw...@gmail.com wrote:

[cayugabirds-l] Compost gulls--Iceland, Glaucous, possible Thayer's

2014-02-09 Thread Jay McGowan
Just a quick note, don't have time to go into more detail, but among the gulls at the compost today were a 2nd-cycle type GLAUCOUS (all plain white), two nice frosty 1st-cycle ICELAND, and a darker Iceland-type that may well have been a 1st-cycle THAYER'S, although I thought it looked on the pale

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Dave Nutter
That looks like Cayuga Lake froze completely at intervals of 20, 10, 30, 19, 9, 20, and 8 years between when the white settlers arrived and when that article was published in 1912. It would be surprising if there were then a gap of over a century.--Dave NutterOn Feb 09, 2014, at 09:18 PM, Susan

[cayugabirds-l] lansing roadside birding

2014-02-09 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
This morning I drove several roads in Lansing, looking for open country birds. Highlights were on Buck Rd: at #648, west of Van Nostrand Rd., I was surprised to see a YELLOW-BELLIED SAPSUCKER hanging on a frozen apple in the crown of a heavily laden tree -- it eventually dropped off and flew

[cayugabirds-l] pair o Brown-headed Cowbirds--Freeville

2014-02-09 Thread Anne Clark
9 Feb 14 In contrast with the ongoing discussions of lakes freezing, a pair of Brown-headed Cowbirds (as in one male, one female) arrived twice to my feeders at 147 Hile School Road. My observations were separated by about 3 hours and both birds were there both times. They were of course,

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday morning (we're just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with shards of ice, clear as glass-and then the water was indeed