[cayugabirds-l] Praying mantises regularly hunt and kill small birds

[Chris R. Pelkie]

Here's something you probably didn't want to know...

http://newatlas.com/praying-mantis-killing-birds-study/50346/?li_source=LI_medium=default-widget



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Kingdom Rd. Dickcissel

[Jay McGowan]

The eBird hotspot is at the location where we first heard them, out in the
field to the west of the road from that spot:
http://ebird.org/ebird/hotspot/L6011483
As far as I am aware, Dave Nicosia's report from July 3rd is the most
recent. I tried late morning on the 1st and didn't hear them, but it was
raining and late, so an early morning visit would undoubtedly be more
productive. So far they have been reported quite distant from the road,
usually heard only and sometimes difficult to pick out.

Also, if you're looking for a more immersive Dickcissel experience,
consider popping down to Yates County on the west side of Seneca Lake,
where Scott Rd. in Benton has up to five singing birds in one field,
including several that come up to sit on the wires over the road, something
the Kingdom Rd. birds have so far not deigned to do.
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S37911156

I spent a little time driving around North Lansing and Groton this morning
checking a few fields for Dickcissels. No luck, but I did find singing
GRASSHOPPER SPARROW and VESPER SPARROW at the north end of Scofield Road,
as well as a second Vesper a bit west of there on Buck Road. Both of these
are quite scarce down here in Tompkins County in the summer.

Jay

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Peter  wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> Can anyone share a precise location of the Kingdom Rd. (Seneca County)
> Dickcissel?
>
> Much obliged.
>
> Pete Sar
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Indigo buntings/mulberries

[Donna Lee Scott]

Near one of the inner grass trails at Salt Point, is a big mulberry tree where 
I watched a Robin struggle to wolf down a large mulberry!
Tree is in bushes off grass trail east of Osprey nest tower.

Donna Scott
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On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:37 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk 
> wrote:


I am fortunate to have some fruiting mulberry trees that bear particularly 
delicious fruit.  Indigo buntings are among the birds that savor the berries, 
and as I stand under the tree eating berries, I see buntings only 10 to 15 feet 
from me.  What a treat!


Also, towhees have been particularly common this year (or maybe I'm just 
spending more time looking for them).


Linda VB

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[cayugabirds-l] Kingdom Rd. Dickcissel

[Peter]

Howdy folks.

Can anyone share a precise location of the Kingdom Rd. (Seneca County) 
Dickcissel?


Much obliged.

Pete Sar


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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: July 06, 2017

[Mary Anne Perks]

The third entry has your name on it!
Also melissa groo posted on facebook pool noodle support. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:02 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest 
>  wrote:
> 
> CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Thursday, July 06, 2017.
> 
> 1. Eagles
> 2. slightly off-topic - 18th century maps of Montezuma and Cayuga Lake
> 3. MNWR highlights today
> 4. Indigo buntings
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> Subject: Eagles
> From: Bard Prentiss 
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:43:50 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> Has anybody seen eagles  lately?
> Juveniles? at Dryden lake   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Subject: slightly off-topic - 18th century maps of Montezuma and Cayuga Lake
> From: "Liisa S. Mobley" 
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 19:15:43 +
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> Hi everyone-
> I've been out of town, so I hope I am not duplicating anyone's previous email 
> - I know there are some other library people on this list.
> 
> I thought people might enjoy this tidbit from the Cornell University Library 
> - historic maps of NYS, including one which describes the area we know of as 
> the Montezuma Wildlife Refuge as ""Resort of gees and ducks of all sorts all 
> the year."
> 
> http://www.newyorkupstate.com/ithaca/2017/07/cornell_buys_rare_map_showing_upstate_ny_before_revolutionary_war.html
> 
> If you click on the image at the top, the gallery will open; images number 3 
> and 7 show the Montezuma area, and number 9 shows where there was a "tarry" 
> or canoe ferry to take people across the north end of the lake.  This would 
> be useful for those days when you see an interesting bird on the lake, and 
> the bird somehow always seems closer to the other shore.
> 
> -Liisa
> 
> 
> Liisa Mobley
> Electronic Resources Unit Supervisor, Cornell University Library, Ithaca, NY 
> 14853
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: MNWR highlights today
> From: 
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 22:41:15 +
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> While doing odonate surveys today we had a lovely run of seldom seens.
> At Tschache we had 2 each of Virginia rail, Dora and Least Bittern.
> Counted a minimum of 20 Black Tern individuals including three newly
> fledged birds.  Later at the Sandhill Crane unit we had an American
> Bittern fly across Van Dyne Spoor just at the beginning of the wetlands.
> 
> 
> Lots of other birds around to disturb the concentration on bugs! Never
> did see the reported pelican. Saw three new Bald Eagles and two adults. 
> 
> John and Sue
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> Subject: Indigo buntings
> From: Linda Post Van Buskirk 
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:37:27 +
> X-Message-Number: 4
> 
> I am fortunate to have some fruiting mulberry trees that bear particularly 
> delicious fruit.  Indigo buntings are among the birds that savor the berries, 
> and as I stand under the tree eating berries, I see buntings only 10 to 15 
> feet from me.  What a treat!
> 
> 
> Also, towhees have been particularly common this year (or maybe I'm just 
> spending more time looking for them).
> 
> 
> Linda VB
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gallimule tough love (I hope)

[khmo]

Hi Anne and thanks for the info. Seems to be such an abundant food year
that such would not apply. Marie's comments may be closer to what we
observed. 

Ever get back data on the dead crow we sent to necropsy? We saw but one
necropsy report and none of the labs. 

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On 2017-07-06 12:07, AB Clark wrote:

> Hi John et al, 
> 
> this is well-known gallinule "parental" behavior.  As many will know, birds 
> often lay more eggs and hatch more young than they can rear. The theoretical 
> explanation is that in a good year, when the healthiest as well as most young 
> can be raised, parents benefit by being ready with that number in the nest.  
> But food or conditions will be less than good in many years. Probably most 
> such young die without direct parental actions, simply through feeding rules 
> that favor larger chicks, or because smaller young run out of fat fuel sooner 
> during lean patches and stop begging and die.   
> 
> But gallinules (moorhens in Europe) are known for directly reducing the 
> number of young, using a behavior "touseling" (yes, it even has a name) in 
> which adults start to peck at and drive off/down select young.  According to 
> the literature, they are likely to select less brightly colored young.  The 
> color is related to the health and immune status of the chick, so they appear 
> to be selecting the lower quality young.   
> 
> In some raptors, pelicans, boobies, and egrets, larger siblings are usually 
> the ones to peck and often kill their smaller siblings. 
> 
> Anne
> 
> Anne B Clark 
> 147 Hile School Rd 
> Freeville, NY 13068 
> 607-222-0905 
> anneb.cl...@gmail.com 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:32 AM, k...@empacc.net wrote: 
>> 
>> At the Van Dyne Spoor wetlands yesterday we observed what seemed vey unusual 
>> gallinule behavior. An adult was swimming along up a small channel in the 
>> surface weeds while three young were sort of lazing around nearby. A second 
>> gallinule was a distance off. 
>> 
>> Suddenly, the adult accelerated and altered course toward one of the 
>> youngsters. When they were close, the adult came up out of the water and 
>> crash dived on top of the kid! The adult quickly surfaced and, despite 
>> watching for some time, we never saw the young reappear. The other two kids 
>> and the other adult ignored the whole affair. 
>> 
>> I hope the youngster just retreated underwater to heavy cover. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Gallinule tough love

[Marie P. Read]

Hi all,

Yeah, I've often seen gallinules and coots beat up their young! At least in 
American Coot, studies using banded birds by Bruce Lyon and Daizaburo Shizuka, 
showed that parents are aggressive to the OLDEST chicks, not the youngest ones 
of which each parent picks a "favorite", (see "parental compensation" below), 
presumably to allocate food in a more fair way and thereby aid smaller chicks' 
survival, and ultimately optimize the brood size survival. 
Think of it like "Stop being a PIG, Freddy, and let your little sister have 
some grub too!"


Daizaburo Shizuka and Bruce E. Lyon
Family dynamics through time: brood reduction followed by parental compensation 
with aggression and favouritism
Abstract

Parental food allocation in birds has long been a focal point for life history 
and parent–offspring conflict theories. In asynchronously hatching species, 
parents are thought to either adjust brood size through death of marginal 
offspring (brood reduction), or feed the disadvantaged chicks to reduce the 
competitive hierar- chy (parental compensation). Here, we show that parent 
American coots (Fulica americana) practice both strategies by switching from 
brood reduction to compensation across time. Late-hatching chicks suffer higher 
mortality only for the first few days after hatching. Later, parents begin to 
exhibit parental aggression towards older chicks and each parent favours a 
single chick, both of which are typically the youngest of the surviving 
offspring. The late-hatched survivors can equal or exceed their older siblings 
in size prior to independence. A mixed allocation strategy allows parents to 
compensate for the costs of competitive hierarchies while gaining the benefits 
of hatching asynchrony.


http://lyon.eeb.ucsc.edu/files/3713/6634/2986/2013ShizukaLyonEcolLett.pdf




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[bounce-121641668-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of AB Clark 
[anneb.cl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gallimule tough love (I hope)

Hi John et al,

this is well-known gallinule “parental” behavior.  As many will know, birds 
often lay more eggs and hatch more young than they can rear. The theoretical 
explanation is that in a good year, when the healthiest as well as most young 
can be raised, parents benefit by being ready with that number in the nest.  
But food or conditions will be less than good in many years. Probably most such 
young die without direct parental actions, simply through feeding rules that 
favor larger chicks, or because smaller young run out of fat fuel sooner during 
lean patches and stop begging and die.

But gallinules (moorhens in Europe) are known for directly reducing the number 
of young, using a behavior “touseling” (yes, it even has a name) in which 
adults start to peck at and drive off/down select young.  According to the 
literature, they are likely to select less brightly colored young.  The color 
is related to the health and immune status of the chick, so they appear to be 
selecting the lower quality young.

In some raptors, pelicans, boobies, and egrets, larger siblings are usually the 
ones to peck and often kill their smaller siblings.

Anne
Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
anneb.cl...@gmail.com



On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:32 AM, k...@empacc.net wrote:


At the Van Dyne Spoor wetlands yesterday we observed what seemed vey unusual 
gallinule behavior. An adult was swimming along up a small channel in the 
surface weeds while three young were sort of lazing around nearby. A second 
gallinule was a distance off.

Suddenly, the adult accelerated and altered course toward one of the 
youngsters. When they were close, the adult came up out of the water and crash 
dived on top of the kid! The adult quickly surfaced and, despite watching for 
some time, we never saw the young reappear. The other two kids and the other 
adult ignored the whole affair.

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[AB Clark]

Hi John et al,

this is well-known gallinule “parental” behavior.  As many will know, birds 
often lay more eggs and hatch more young than they can rear. The theoretical 
explanation is that in a good year, when the healthiest as well as most young 
can be raised, parents benefit by being ready with that number in the nest.  
But food or conditions will be less than good in many years. Probably most such 
young die without direct parental actions, simply through feeding rules that 
favor larger chicks, or because smaller young run out of fat fuel sooner during 
lean patches and stop begging and die.  

But gallinules (moorhens in Europe) are known for directly reducing the number 
of young, using a behavior “touseling” (yes, it even has a name) in which 
adults start to peck at and drive off/down select young.  According to the 
literature, they are likely to select less brightly colored young.  The color 
is related to the health and immune status of the chick, so they appear to be 
selecting the lower quality young.  

In some raptors, pelicans, boobies, and egrets, larger siblings are usually the 
ones to peck and often kill their smaller siblings.

Anne
Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
anneb.cl...@gmail.com





> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:32 AM, k...@empacc.net wrote:
> 
> At the Van Dyne Spoor wetlands yesterday we observed what seemed vey unusual 
> gallinule behavior. An adult was swimming along up a small channel in the 
> surface weeds while three young were sort of lazing around nearby. A second 
> gallinule was a distance off.
> 
> Suddenly, the adult accelerated and altered course toward one of the 
> youngsters. When they were close, the adult came up out of the water and 
> crash dived on top of the kid! The adult quickly surfaced and, despite 
> watching for some time, we never saw the young reappear. The other two kids 
> and the other adult ignored the whole affair.
> 
> I hope the youngster just retreated underwater to heavy cover.
> 
> John
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gallimule tough love (I hope)

[Scott Haber]

Gallinule and coot parents are well known to engage in aggressive behaviors
toward their chicks, which, in some rare cases, ends in infanticide.

For more info:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00302949
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347284803401

-Scott



On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM,  wrote:

> At the Van Dyne Spoor wetlands yesterday we observed what seemed vey
> unusual gallinule behavior. An adult was swimming along up a small channel
> in the surface weeds while three young were sort of lazing around nearby. A
> second gallinule was a distance off.
>
> Suddenly, the adult accelerated and altered course toward one of the
> youngsters. When they were close, the adult came up out of the water and
> crash dived on top of the kid! The adult quickly surfaced and, despite
> watching for some time, we never saw the young reappear. The other two kids
> and the other adult ignored the whole affair.
>
> I hope the youngster just retreated underwater to heavy cover.
>
> John
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[cayugabirds-l] Gallimule tough love (I hope)

[khmo]

At the Van Dyne Spoor wetlands yesterday we observed what seemed vey
unusual gallinule behavior. An adult was swimming along up a small
channel in the surface weeds while three young were sort of lazing
around nearby. A second gallinule was a distance off. 

Suddenly, the adult accelerated and altered course toward one of the
youngsters. When they were close, the adult came up out of the water and
crash dived on top of the kid! The adult quickly surfaced and, despite
watching for some time, we never saw the young reappear. The other two
kids and the other adult ignored the whole affair. 

I hope the youngster just retreated underwater to heavy cover. 

John

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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

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