[cayugabirds-l] Cayuta Outlet Winter Wren

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
This morning I took a walk along the very easy stretch of the FLT  
that goes down the Cayuta Outlet gorge.  A Winter Wren was singing  
about 250 yards downstream from the lake control dam in the mouth of  
the gorge. I continued downstream, enjoying lots of Canada Warblers  
and other characteristic birds, but missing Acadian Flycatcher (I  
guess they don't breed there any more?).  I turned around at the  
black locust truss bridge. On my way back I passed a Winter Wren  
(probably the same one) singing from the opposite side of the narrow  
gorge, 180 paces below the control dam. I didn't make an effort to  
spot the singer, but I imagine it wouldn't have been too difficult,  
as the gorge is quite narrow and visibility is good under the tall  
hemlocks and yellow birch.


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[cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his  
property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear (whitish- 
green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he began to find  
dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1  
Gray Catbird so far. There is a strong correlation (timewise) between  
fruiting and the deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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[cayugabirds-l] MNWR - White-rumps

2011-06-23 Thread tigger64
In spite of the curious date and seemingly large number, everything in the 
field pointed to White-rumped Sandpipers and others e-mailed to say they also 
saw good numbers of White-rumps last weekend at Knox-Marsellus.  A quick check 
of Bull '98 shows an inland maxima of 97 at MNWR on 30 May 1971, which would be 
at the peak passage time for the species.  

 

Dave W.
Oswego County


Montezuma NWR--Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Seneca, US-NY
Jun 22, 2011 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM
Protocol: Stationary
Comments: From the East Rd overlook. Are the shorebirds Spring migrants?  
Fall migrants?  non-breeders/failed breeders?
37 species (+1 other taxa)

Canada Goose  75
Wood Duck  2
American Wigeon  20 estimated
American Black Duck  2
Mallard  550 500-600 counted with quasi-accuracy
Blue-winged Teal  6
Northern Shoveler  2
Northern Pintail  1
Green-winged Teal  20 estimated
Redhead  2
Ruddy Duck  3
Great Blue Heron  14
Green Heron  1
Osprey  2
Bald Eagle  2
Sandhill Crane  4
Killdeer  10
Spotted Sandpiper  1
Greater/Lesser Yellowlegs  3 In a grassy area and hard to see.  Presumably 
fall migrants or failed breeders
White-rumped Sandpiper  15 Exact count; presumably non-breeders; too far to 
see plumage well but none struck me as bright, heavily streaked, spring adults
Dunlin  1 Black belly patch.  Fall migrant?
Ring-billed Gull  20
Black Tern  6
Northern Flicker  1
American Crow  5
Tree Swallow  40
Barn Swallow  10
European Starling  6
Common Yellowthroat  1
Eastern Towhee  1
Savannah Sparrow  4
Song Sparrow  1
Swamp Sparrow  1
Indigo Bunting  3
Bobolink  2
Red-winged Blackbird  X
Common Grackle  2
American Goldfinch  X

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species are  
mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.


http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his  
property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear  
(whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he  
began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male  
Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far. There is a strong  
correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the deaths. Is anyone  
familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire

Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species are  
mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.


http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his  
property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear  
(whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he  
began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male  
Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far. There is a strong  
correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the deaths. Is anyone  
familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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[cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
OK. So I just spoke with the friend. He did not spray and the  
neighboring property is a Christmas tree farm - and they do not spray.


One addition: a Cedar Waxwing, found dead on the ground under the tree  
- sitting up like it was still alive, with a poop half out. So perhaps  
that guy was sickened and went to the ground where he died.


Bob



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the  
vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?


-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species  
are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.


http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his  
property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear  
(whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he  
began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male  
Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far. There is a strong  
correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the deaths. Is anyone  
familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire
Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER the  
trees.


Bob
On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the  
vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?


-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species  
are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.


http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his  
property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear  
(whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he  
began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male  
Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far. There is a strong  
correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the deaths. Is anyone  
familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Asher Hockett
A couple of thoughts:

Alcohol poisoning. With the recent very hot spell, coinciding with sugar
development in the berries, fermentation is a good liklihood.

The link posted by Geo refers to mild toxicity. However, that is directed at
us for human consumption. Birds have a lower threshold for most toxins.

Perhaps the combination of the previous two possibilities led to over
consumption due to corrupted judgment on the birds part.

Are deer prevalent there and is there a possibility of e. coli? Are birds
susceptible to that?

Have specimens been collected for a toxicology analysis by the lab? If not
maybe that could be done - with caution exercised by anyone doing it.


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 I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his property.
 This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear (whitish-green when
 unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he began to find dead birds under
 the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.
 There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the deaths. Is
 anyone familiar with this phenomenon?

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Geo Kloppel
Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always  
DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit:


http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER  
the trees.


Bob
On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the  
vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?


-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species  
are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.


http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on  
his property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to  
appear (whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when  
ripe), he began to find dead birds under the trees: 5  
Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.  
There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and  
the deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?


Bob McGuire



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Fw: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread B Mcaneny
When we lived on Long Island, there was a big mulberry tree in front of our 
house.  When the berries fell to the round and stayed there a while, they 
would ferment.  The mourning doves would then come around and get staggering 
drunk.  However, I don't remember ever seeing a dead bird under the tree. 
That's not to say the doves didn't die shortly after flying away.  It is 
also an assumption on our part to think the doves were inebriated, rather 
than poisoned.  Good mystery, Bob.


Bill McAneny, TBurg


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To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree


Were the birds really dead or in coma? There is a variety of red geranium 
when Japanese Beetle feed on them the get intoxicated and fall down to 
ground. But after few hours they are awake and alive. But then they again go 
for the same flowers and fall down again. I don't know how long they keep 
doing this. But I was trying to isolate the active component in 
collaboration with someone in Kentucky, but we did not get funded.


Meena

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Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always
DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER
the trees.

Bob
On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:


Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the
vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:


The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species
are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on
his property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to
appear (whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when
ripe), he began to find dead birds under the trees: 5
Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.
There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and
the deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?

Bob McGuire



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[cayugabirds-l] roadkills

2011-06-23 Thread wrevans
Speaking of dead birds, I found five roadkill yellow warblers in the past 
two weeks during my bike rides between Bald Hill Rd and King Rd on rte 96B. 
All were adult males.


Bill E





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[cayugabirds-l] woodcocks

2011-06-23 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
Horseback riding in Aurelius on trails through wet fields/woods, the farm owner 
and I scared up a family of woodcocks:  four flew, one went into the grasses by 
the trail.  An exciting first for both of us.
Linda

-Original Message-
From: bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:25 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always DEC's Wildlife 
Pathology Unit:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER the 
 trees.

 Bob
 On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

 Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the 
 vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?

 -Geo

 On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
 On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

 The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species are 
 mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.

 http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

 -Geo


 On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on his 
 property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to appear 
 (whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when ripe), he 
 began to find dead birds under the trees: 5 Starlings, 2 male 
 Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.
 There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and the 
 deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?

 Bob McGuire


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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread Meena Haribal
Were the birds really dead or in coma? There is a variety of red geranium when 
Japanese Beetle feed on them the get intoxicated and fall down to ground. But 
after few hours they are awake and alive. But then they again go for the same 
flowers and fall down again. I don't know how long they keep doing this. But I 
was trying to isolate the active component in collaboration with someone in 
Kentucky, but we did not get funded. 

Meena

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Ithaca NY 14850
Phone 607-254-1258
http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
http://haribal.org/
http://haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf


-Original Message-
From: bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:25 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always  
DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER  
 the trees.

 Bob
 On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

 Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the  
 vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?

 -Geo

 On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
 On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:

 The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species  
 are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.

 http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

 -Geo


 On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:

 I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on  
 his property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to  
 appear (whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when  
 ripe), he began to find dead birds under the trees: 5  
 Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.  
 There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and  
 the deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?

 Bob McGuire


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

2011-06-23 Thread bob mcguire

Dead.
On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Meena Haribal wrote:

Were the birds really dead or in coma? There is a variety of red  
geranium when Japanese Beetle feed on them the get intoxicated and  
fall down to ground. But after few hours they are awake and alive.  
But then they again go for the same flowers and fall down again. I  
don't know how long they keep doing this. But I was trying to  
isolate the active component in collaboration with someone in  
Kentucky, but we did not get funded.


Meena

Meena Haribal
Boyce Thompson Institute
Ithaca NY 14850
Phone 607-254-1258
http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
http://haribal.org/
http://haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf


-Original Message-
From: bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-37737035-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:25 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead Birds - Mulberry Tree

Well, if the deaths continue without explanation, there's always
DEC's Wildlife Pathology Unit:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html#port

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:58 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Nope. No windows within 200 ft. And the dead birds were all UNDER
the trees.

Bob
On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:


Perhaps the fruiting mulberry trees are only luring birds into the
vicinity of something else that's deadly. Windows?

-Geo

On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:21 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


Yes Joe, we've heard that. But death??
On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Geo Kloppel wrote:


The unripe fruits and the milky sap of several mulberry species
are mildly toxic, and can cause hallucinations and stomach upset.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Morusal.htm

-Geo


On Jun 23, 2011, at 4:01 PM, bob mcguire wrote:


I just had lunch with a friend who has two mulberry trees on
his property. This year, shortly after the fruits began to
appear (whitish-green when unripe, going to reddish-black when
ripe), he began to find dead birds under the trees: 5
Starlings, 2 male Baltimore Orioles, 1 Gray Catbird so far.
There is a strong correlation (timewise) between fruiting and
the deaths. Is anyone familiar with this phenomenon?

Bob McGuire



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