[cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Karen Edelstein
My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
but never heard back.

Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is
not ok too discuss here.

Karen

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[cayugabirds-l] siskins

2014-12-19 Thread Susan Fast
 Just got 12+ PINE SISKINS at the feeders; first of the year.
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Un Sprgs Mill Pond, Scout Project

2014-12-19 Thread Donna Scott
This is great news, Fritzie.

 

Now it is up to us to come up with a do-able plan to help the Boy Scout with
a different project. Those interested could meet in one of the eateries in
U. Springs and work on this.

 

2 thoughts:

1-  Is there another area in the Village, not by the pond, that could
use some kind of project that we could help the young man plan and
implement?

2-  Besides a modest sign and kiosk about birds  history  the nature
of the springs themselves at the Mill Pond area, what about having the Boy
Scout help put in MORE plants, native plants appropriate for the habitat
there, around the edges of the pond to extend the bushes that now exist on
the north and south sides?

Instead of cutting things down, plant more bushes! Dan Segal of Plantsmen
and perhaps Sharon Anderson at Tompkins CCE could advise on the appropriate
plants.

 

Donna Scott

 

From: bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John and
Fritzie Blizzard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:38 PM
To: CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Union Springs Mill Pond, Scout Project

 

Birding friends,

Below is an e-mail from the mother of the Scout about whom I wrote that
wanted to make a path along the south side of Mill Pond.  I have sent her
copies of e-mails I've received. Today I sent her the last of the many I've
received over the last few weeks  this is her reply. Now you must step in 
try to help him. At 81, with an 84 yr.old husband not in the best of health,
I can't do more to lead this project but I'll try to be the go-between, if
necessary. I have deliberately not revealed ANY e-addresses so as to protect
everyone. 

I am proud of all of you who took time  effort to write to me, the mayor 
village trustees. Kathy has said she  her son are open to suggestions OR to
abandoning the proposal all together. Dave Nutter has offered to help, busy
as he is. I will try to talk to Kathy soon but perhaps not 'til after after
Christmas. In the meantime, put on your thinking caps  if you are visiting
Union Springs, look at the pond surroundings near the street  try to
picture what might be a project the lad could do. He also will need to be
looking at things in a different light with time to plan  present findings
to the village board.

Thanks to you all for your input. May you all have a very merry, birdy
Christmas.

Fritzie Blizzard ( no, I didn't order snow for Christmas!)   ;)



Date: 

Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:21:12 -0500


From: 

Kathleen Aguilar 





Hi Fritzie,


 I have been receiving your emails and reading all the notes written by your
fellow bird enthusiasts. I appreciate their graciousness in acknowledging my
son's good intentions. I totally understand their worries about a path
around the pond and how it might negatively affect the bird life on the Mill
Pond. 

I was hoping maybe we could meet the next time you have a meeting and we
could talk.

Several letters had suggestions of some projects that would support bird
watching on the Mill pond (blinds, kiosk...) We are VERY open to suggestions
to adjust our original proposal (or even abandon it altogether). 

It seems like maybe we could combine my son's enthusiasm to do a service
project for his hometown with the birding community's knowledge to produce
something that would enhance the bird life on the pond and the community as
well. With the Village Board's blessing, maybe we could design something new
that accomplished both goals.  :)

Kathy



 

 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Un Sprgs Mill Pond, Scout Project

2014-12-19 Thread Asher Hockett
I really like idea #2. Planting bird-friendly native plants would be the
perfect way to upgrade the birding opportunities to be found there.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Donna Scott d...@cornell.edu wrote:

 This is great news, Fritzie.



 Now it is up to us to come up with a do-able plan to help the Boy Scout
 with a different project. Those interested could meet in one of the
 eateries in U. Springs and work on this.



 2 thoughts:

 1-  Is there another area in the Village, not by the pond, that could
 use some kind of project that we could help the young man plan and
 implement?

 2-  Besides a modest sign and kiosk about birds  history  the
 nature of the springs themselves at the Mill Pond area, what about having
 the Boy Scout help put in MORE plants, native plants appropriate for the
 habitat there, around the edges of the pond to extend the bushes that now
 exist on the north and south sides?

 Instead of cutting things down, plant more bushes! Dan Segal of Plantsmen
 and perhaps Sharon Anderson at Tompkins CCE could advise on the appropriate
 plants.



 Donna Scott



 *From:* bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
 bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John and
 Fritzie Blizzard
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:38 PM
 *To:* CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e
 *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Union Springs Mill Pond, Scout Project



 Birding friends,

 Below is an e-mail from the mother of the Scout about whom I wrote that
 wanted to make a path along the south side of Mill Pond.  I have sent her
 copies of e-mails I've received. Today I sent her the last of the many I've
 received over the last few weeks  this is her reply. Now you must step in
  try to help him. At 81, with an 84 yr.old husband not in the best of
 health, I can't do more to lead this project but I'll try to be the
 go-between, if necessary. I have deliberately not revealed *ANY*
 e-addresses so as to protect everyone.

 I am proud of all of you who took time  effort to write to me, the mayor
  village trustees. Kathy has said she  her son are open to suggestions*
 OR* to abandoning the proposal all together. Dave Nutter has offered to
 help, busy as he is. I will try to talk to Kathy soon but perhaps not 'til
 after after Christmas. In the meantime, put on your thinking caps  if you
 are visiting Union Springs, look at the pond surroundings near the street 
 try to picture what might be a project the lad could do. He also will need
 to be looking at things in a different light with time to plan  present
 findings to the village board.

 Thanks to you all for your input. May you all have a very merry, birdy
 Christmas.

 Fritzie Blizzard ( no, I didn't order snow for Christmas!)   ;)

 *Date: *

 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:21:12 -0500

 *From: *

 Kathleen Aguilar



 Hi Fritzie,


  I have been receiving your emails and reading all the notes written by
 your fellow bird enthusiasts. I appreciate their graciousness in
 acknowledging my son's good intentions. I totally understand their worries
 about a path around the pond and how it might negatively affect the bird
 life on the Mill Pond.

 I was hoping maybe we could meet the next time you have a meeting and we
 could talk.

 Several letters had suggestions of some projects that would support bird
 watching on the Mill pond (blinds, kiosk...) We are VERY open to
 suggestions to adjust our original proposal (or even abandon it
 altogether).

 It seems like maybe we could combine my son's enthusiasm to do a service
 project for his hometown with the birding community's knowledge to produce
 something that would enhance the bird life on the pond and the community as
 well. With the Village Board's blessing, maybe we could design something
 new that accomplished both goals.  :)

 Kathy





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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Un Sprgs Mill Pond, Scout Project

2014-12-19 Thread william hecht
GREAT IDEA to do plantings !!!
I would be glad to contribute a few disease resistant elm trees and years
ago my father and I dug up lily of the valley and daffodils that were on
that site.  These could be replanted.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really like idea #2. Planting bird-friendly native plants would be the
 perfect way to upgrade the birding opportunities to be found there.

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Donna Scott d...@cornell.edu wrote:

 This is great news, Fritzie.



 Now it is up to us to come up with a do-able plan to help the Boy Scout
 with a different project. Those interested could meet in one of the
 eateries in U. Springs and work on this.



 2 thoughts:

 1-  Is there another area in the Village, not by the pond, that
 could use some kind of project that we could help the young man plan and
 implement?

 2-  Besides a modest sign and kiosk about birds  history  the
 nature of the springs themselves at the Mill Pond area, what about having
 the Boy Scout help put in MORE plants, native plants appropriate for the
 habitat there, around the edges of the pond to extend the bushes that now
 exist on the north and south sides?

 Instead of cutting things down, plant more bushes! Dan Segal of Plantsmen
 and perhaps Sharon Anderson at Tompkins CCE could advise on the appropriate
 plants.



 Donna Scott



 *From:* bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
 bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John and
 Fritzie Blizzard
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:38 PM
 *To:* CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e
 *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Union Springs Mill Pond, Scout Project



 Birding friends,

 Below is an e-mail from the mother of the Scout about whom I wrote that
 wanted to make a path along the south side of Mill Pond.  I have sent her
 copies of e-mails I've received. Today I sent her the last of the many I've
 received over the last few weeks  this is her reply. Now you must step in
  try to help him. At 81, with an 84 yr.old husband not in the best of
 health, I can't do more to lead this project but I'll try to be the
 go-between, if necessary. I have deliberately not revealed *ANY*
 e-addresses so as to protect everyone.

 I am proud of all of you who took time  effort to write to me, the mayor
  village trustees. Kathy has said she  her son are open to suggestions*
 OR* to abandoning the proposal all together. Dave Nutter has offered to
 help, busy as he is. I will try to talk to Kathy soon but perhaps not 'til
 after after Christmas. In the meantime, put on your thinking caps  if you
 are visiting Union Springs, look at the pond surroundings near the street 
 try to picture what might be a project the lad could do. He also will need
 to be looking at things in a different light with time to plan  present
 findings to the village board.

 Thanks to you all for your input. May you all have a very merry, birdy
 Christmas.

 Fritzie Blizzard ( no, I didn't order snow for Christmas!)   ;)

 *Date: *

 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:21:12 -0500

 *From: *

 Kathleen Aguilar



 Hi Fritzie,


  I have been receiving your emails and reading all the notes written by
 your fellow bird enthusiasts. I appreciate their graciousness in
 acknowledging my son's good intentions. I totally understand their worries
 about a path around the pond and how it might negatively affect the bird
 life on the Mill Pond.

 I was hoping maybe we could meet the next time you have a meeting and we
 could talk.

 Several letters had suggestions of some projects that would support bird
 watching on the Mill pond (blinds, kiosk...) We are VERY open to
 suggestions to adjust our original proposal (or even abandon it
 altogether).

 It seems like maybe we could combine my son's enthusiasm to do a service
 project for his hometown with the birding community's knowledge to produce
 something that would enhance the bird life on the pond and the community as
 well. With the Village Board's blessing, maybe we could design something
 new that accomplished both goals.  :)

 Kathy





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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Un Sprgs Mill Pond, Scout Project

2014-12-19 Thread Donna Scott
Of course, Steve Kress could advise on bird friendly plants for that shady, 
pond-side situation, too. I have his Audubon book on plantings for birds.

Maybe Bill Hecht’s daffies and Lily of Valley by the gazebo itself. The bird 
friendly plants nearer the pond.

 

Donna

 

From: william hecht [mailto:wshech...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:43 AM
To: Asher Hockett
Cc: Donna Scott; John and Fritzie Blizzard; CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Un Sprgs Mill Pond, Scout Project

 

GREAT IDEA to do plantings !!!

I would be glad to contribute a few disease resistant elm trees and years ago 
my father and I dug up lily of the valley and daffodils that were on that site. 
 These could be replanted.

 

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Asher Hockett veery...@gmail.com 
mailto:veery...@gmail.com  wrote:

I really like idea #2. Planting bird-friendly native plants would be the 
perfect way to upgrade the birding opportunities to be found there.

 

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Donna Scott d...@cornell.edu 
mailto:d...@cornell.edu  wrote:

This is great news, Fritzie.

 

Now it is up to us to come up with a do-able plan to help the Boy Scout with a 
different project. Those interested could meet in one of the eateries in U. 
Springs and work on this.

 

2 thoughts:

1-  Is there another area in the Village, not by the pond, that could use 
some kind of project that we could help the young man plan and implement?

2-  Besides a modest sign and kiosk about birds  history  the nature of 
the springs themselves at the Mill Pond area, what about having the Boy Scout 
help put in MORE plants, native plants appropriate for the habitat there, 
around the edges of the pond to extend the bushes that now exist on the north 
and south sides?

Instead of cutting things down, plant more bushes! Dan Segal of Plantsmen and 
perhaps Sharon Anderson at Tompkins CCE could advise on the appropriate plants.

 

Donna Scott

 

From: bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu 
mailto:bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu  
[mailto:bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu 
mailto:bounce-118641596-15001...@list.cornell.edu ] On Behalf Of John and 
Fritzie Blizzard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:38 PM
To: CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e mailto:CayugaBirds-L@Cornell.e 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Union Springs Mill Pond, Scout Project

 

Birding friends,

Below is an e-mail from the mother of the Scout about whom I wrote that wanted 
to make a path along the south side of Mill Pond.  I have sent her copies of 
e-mails I've received. Today I sent her the last of the many I've received over 
the last few weeks  this is her reply. Now you must step in  try to help him. 
At 81, with an 84 yr.old husband not in the best of health, I can't do more to 
lead this project but I'll try to be the go-between, if necessary. I have 
deliberately not revealed ANY e-addresses so as to protect everyone. 

I am proud of all of you who took time  effort to write to me, the mayor  
village trustees. Kathy has said she  her son are open to suggestions OR to 
abandoning the proposal all together. Dave Nutter has offered to help, busy as 
he is. I will try to talk to Kathy soon but perhaps not 'til after after 
Christmas. In the meantime, put on your thinking caps  if you are visiting 
Union Springs, look at the pond surroundings near the street  try to picture 
what might be a project the lad could do. He also will need to be looking at 
things in a different light with time to plan  present findings to the village 
board.

Thanks to you all for your input. May you all have a very merry, birdy 
Christmas.

Fritzie Blizzard ( no, I didn't order snow for Christmas!)   ;)



Date: 

Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:21:12 -0500


From: 

Kathleen Aguilar 





Hi Fritzie,


 I have been receiving your emails and reading all the notes written by your 
fellow bird enthusiasts. I appreciate their graciousness in acknowledging my 
son's good intentions. I totally understand their worries about a path around 
the pond and how it might negatively affect the bird life on the Mill Pond. 

I was hoping maybe we could meet the next time you have a meeting and we could 
talk.

Several letters had suggestions of some projects that would support bird 
watching on the Mill pond (blinds, kiosk...) We are VERY open to suggestions to 
adjust our original proposal (or even abandon it altogether). 

It seems like maybe we could combine my son's enthusiasm to do a service 
project for his hometown with the birding community's knowledge to produce 
something that would enhance the bird life on the pond and the community as 
well. With the Village Board's blessing, maybe we could design something new 
that accomplished both goals.  :)

Kathy

 

 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Betsy Darlington
And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
Betsy

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.edu wrote:

 My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
 weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
 pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
 impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
 project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
 but never heard back.

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