Re: [cayugabirds-l] City of Ithaca: Raven, non-count-week Gadwall, legal sanctuary at south end of lake

2015-01-07 Thread bob mcguire
Geo - It is not just Stewart Park that is within the City limits. Looking at 2 on the County map at http://geo.tompkins-co.org/html/?viewer=tcpropmo you can see that both jetties and Hog Hole are all within the City hence, I would assume, are covered by the City ordinance prohibiting hunting.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] City of Ithaca: Raven, non-count-week Gadwall, legal sanctuary at south end of lake

2015-01-07 Thread Geo Kloppel
Does the Ithaca Police Dept have a police boat? That seems like it would be essential equipment for enforcing the firearms ban in the portion of Stewart Park that extends 2,000' north over the water. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Waterfowl hunting regulation

2015-01-07 Thread Dave Nutter
Here is a more complete quote from that DEC webpage: It is possible for local municipalities (such as villages and towns) to pass ordinances prohibiting discharge of firearms. Since there are so many municipalities, and the laws can change at any time, DEC cannot keep track of all these

[cayugabirds-l] Waterfowl hunting regulation

2015-01-07 Thread Geo Kloppel
After a careful reading of Title 7 and Title 9 of the state Environmental Conservation Law, I've come around to the view that the Ithaca ordinance prohibiting hunting is unenforceable with respect to the state waters that lie within the city limits, as it conflicts with ECL Section 11-0701[1] and

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Waterways Jurisdiction

2015-01-07 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
I'm wondering if this is something that the Cayuga Bird Club would be interested in being tasked with coordinating and organizing? Perhaps to be brought up at the next meeting? Of course, with feedback from the overall birding community who use this area, largely represented by subscribers and

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Waterways Jurisdiction

2015-01-07 Thread bob mcguire
This would appear to be a case of overlapping jurisdictions. I wonder how the officials have worked it out? Bob On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes wrote: For what it's worth, I believe that the waterways (Cayuga Lake) are under the jurisdiction of the New York State

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Waterways Jurisdiction

2015-01-07 Thread Geo Kloppel
Hi Chris, The city and state jurisdictions apparently overlap in the portion of the lake that lies within the city boundary. State agencies do not enforce the city's hunting ban there, but it seems logical that city police should still have the authority to do so (after all, this area is within

[cayugabirds-l] Waterways Jurisdiction

2015-01-07 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
For what it's worth, I believe that the waterways (Cayuga Lake) are under the jurisdiction of the New York State Parks. Violation reports and enforcement would be through the NYS Parks Police. Any legal or legislative changes would need to be lobbied through letters to and support from your