RE:[cayugabirds-l] Hummingbird/ other birds

2017-05-06 Thread Marty Schlabach
For years, we’ve put out orange halves for the orioles, but never had an oriole 
feed from one.  This year we put out grape jelly, and so far no orioles have 
come to the feeder, even though we have seen and heard them.  But, today we had 
a mockingbird feeding from the grape jelly.

--Marty Schlabach
Interlaken

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FOY RUBY THROATED HUMMINGBIRD, male, at my feeder now.
Besides 2 B. Orioles eating oranges impaled on small tree branches near deck,  
2 G. Catbirds are eating grape jelly I had originally put out for the Orioles. 
Second year I have seen that.

While helping up & down Lansing Station Rd for our neighborhood clean up day, I 
heard a few B. Orioles, Rose Breasted Grosbeaks, & Black Throated Green 
Warblers singing. Saw/heard a pair of American Redstarts, the first female of 
that sp. I have seen here. I also saw a little Chipping Sparrow bathing 
vigorously in a water-filled small ditch by a driveway.
Didn't have binocs along since they get in way of picking up & carrying junque, 
plus it was raining steadily, so didn't get to look at some other birds present 
in the gloom.

Donna Scott
Lansing
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RE:[cayugabirds-l] Goslings @ MNWR

2017-05-06 Thread Marty Schlabach
Yes, we saw 7 goslings in that area yesterday.  

One of them seemed to have mobility issues and seemed to be stuck on its belly, 
not able to get its feet under it.  The parents kept trying to lead the 
goslings away, but that one little guy just couldn't walk.  We thought it might 
be deformed or something that was preventing it from walking. The adults would 
return to it, when they saw it wasn't following.   But, suddenly it was walking 
along with the others, so we weren't sure what prevented it from following 
before.

--Marty Schlabach

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?Saw our FOY Canada Goose goslings along the wildlife Drive today, past the 
carpal tunnel.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-necked Grebes on Dryden Lake

2017-05-06 Thread Geo Kloppel
I was visiting a friend's house just north of Dean's Cove about 2:30 this misty 
afternoon, enjoying the hundreds of swallows circling just inches above the 
water. The cove stream spilled out a plume of silt-laden rainwater that 
stretched north toward us along the shore. Out beyond it, Loons were diving 
here and there, and popping up anywhere else.

Then a group of six (!) Red-necked Grebes in various stages of breeding plumage 
appeared. They were close, only 50' - 100' from shore, fishing and paddling 
their unhurried way north. Really splendid afternoon!

-Geo


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[cayugabirds-l] Hummingbird/ other birds

2017-05-06 Thread Donna Lee Scott
FOY RUBY THROATED HUMMINGBIRD, male, at my feeder now.
Besides 2 B. Orioles eating oranges impaled on small tree branches near deck,  
2 G. Catbirds are eating grape jelly I had originally put out for the Orioles. 
Second year I have seen that.

While helping up & down Lansing Station Rd for our neighborhood clean up day, I 
heard a few B. Orioles, Rose Breasted Grosbeaks, & Black Throated Green 
Warblers singing. Saw/heard a pair of American Redstarts, the first female of 
that sp. I have seen here. I also saw a little Chipping Sparrow bathing 
vigorously in a water-filled small ditch by a driveway.
Didn't have binocs along since they get in way of picking up & carrying junque, 
plus it was raining steadily, so didn't get to look at some other birds present 
in the gloom.

Donna Scott
Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Indigo Buntings

2017-05-06 Thread W. Larry Hymes
We have had a real treat recently.  An adult INDIGO BUNTING has remained 
around our property for the past 4 days.  This afternoon it was joined 
by a blotchy first-year male!  Now the adult isn't lonely anymore!


Larry

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[cayugabirds-l] Dryden to Ithaca trail....time to vote again.

2017-05-06 Thread Linda Orkin


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Further info Yellow House Finch

2017-05-06 Thread AB Clark
I am not sure what specific berries we lacked during winter that would 
contribute, but of course, purple finches and house finches could have been 
influenced by diets south of here.  

On the other hand, it appears that carotenoids that end up purple-red are the 
result of conversion of yellower pigments into purple or, in other species, 
cardinal-red.  

Here is a news report on a few papers cited at the bottom: 
https://phys.org/news/2016-05-genes-enable-birds-red.html

Genetic differences (defects perhaps) can result in yellow cardinals and 
perhaps the yellow-orange of finches.  Even in the classic house finch story, 
Kevin McGraw and others have shown that differences between males are not just 
dietary, but result from their genetically influenced abilities to sequester 
and then push the carotenoids into their feathers.  Conversions within 
carotenoid biochemical structures happen along the way, so that different 
species eating similar carotenoids end up with different plumage color. So the 
simple idea that brighter males were better at gathering carotenoid-rich foods 
turns out to be too simple.  And females sharing these “sequester more 
carotenoid” genes put more into their egg yolks, which may protect rapidly 
growing embryos from free radicals.

Now—why one would suddenly get some genetically odd purple and house finches in 
the same spring…I have no idea!

And this is probably way more than anyone wanted to know!  

Anne
Current Biology, Lopes, Johnson, and Toomey et al.: "Genetic Basis for Red 
Coloration in Birds" 
www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30401-8 
 / 
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2016.03.076 

Current Biology, Mundy and Stapley et al.: "Red Ketocarotenoid Pigmentation in 
the Zebra Finch Is Controlled by a Cytochrome P450 Gene Cluster" 
www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30400-6 
 / 
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2016.04.047 


Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2016-05-genes-enable-birds-red.html#jCp 

Current Biology, Lopes, Johnson, and Toomey et al.: "Genetic Basis for Red 
Coloration in Birds" 
www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30401-8 
 / 
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2016.03.076 

Current Biology, Mundy and Stapley et al.: "Red Ketocarotenoid Pigmentation in 
the Zebra Finch Is Controlled by a Cytochrome P450 Gene Cluster" 
www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30400-6 
 / 
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2016.04.047 


Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2016-05-genes-enable-birds-red.html#jCp 

Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
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> On May 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine no one can be surprised at poor condition in these birds this 
> year with the dearth of carotenoid source fruits and berries over this past 
> fall and winter. This would not be permanent but could be corrected with 
> better diet, correct Kevin? 
> 
> Thx 
> 
> Linda Orkin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 5, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Kevin J. McGowan  > wrote:
> 
>> No, the most likely explanation is that it is a young male in relatively 
>> poor condition. The captive experiments showed that poor diet makes for more 
>> yellow and less red birds. Those ideas apply to wild birds, as well. 
>> Yellowish House Finches are relatively common. I usually see a few each year.
>> 
>> 
>> But, since you brought up the topic. I had occasion the other day to see the 
>> same phenomenon (I am guessing) in PURPLE Finches, which I don't think I've 
>> ever seen before. Photos of a yellowish male coming to my feeder can be seen 
>> at https://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35976663 
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin J. McGowan
>> Project Manager
>> Distance Learning in Bird Biology
>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>> 159 Sapsucker Woods Road
>> Ithaca, NY 14850
>> k...@cornell.edu 
>> 607-254-2452
>> 
>> 
>> From: bounce-121504884-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
>>  
>> > > on behalf of W. Larry 
>> Hymes >
>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 4:53 PM
>> To: 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Further info Yellow House Finch

2017-05-06 Thread khmo
I'm always amazed at the differences between here and the Ithaca area.
Over the years we have encountered very few yellow HOFI, probably less
than a handful. Purple Finch yellowish plumes on the other hand were not
at all unusual, and as Linda points out, in the drier years. 

Other differences are in stopover times for a few species as compared to
John Confer's data. We get month long stopovers in both migrations of
Eastern White-crowned Sparrows and maybe a few days at most with Fix
Sparrow while it's just the reverse with John. 

John 

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On 2017-05-05 21:23, Kevin J. McGowan wrote:

> No, the most likely explanation is that it is a young male in relatively poor 
> condition. The captive experiments showed that poor diet makes for more 
> yellow and less red birds. Those ideas apply to wild birds, as well. 
> Yellowish House Finches are relatively common. I usually see a few each year. 
> 
> But, since you brought up the topic. I had occasion the other day to see the 
> same phenomenon (I am guessing) in PURPLE Finches, which I don't think I've 
> ever seen before. Photos of a yellowish male coming to my feeder can be seen 
> at https://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S35976663 [1]. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> Kevin J. McGowan
> Project Manager
> Distance Learning in Bird Biology
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> 159 Sapsucker Woods Road
> Ithaca, NY 14850
> k...@cornell.edu
> 607-254-2452 
> 
> -
> 
> FROM: bounce-121504884-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of W. Larry Hymes 
> 
> SENT: Friday, May 5, 2017 4:53 PM
> TO: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> SUBJECT: [cayugabirds-l] Further info Yellow House Finch 
> 
> Upon reading the literature, it appears that captive house finches can 
> have yellow coloration because of the lack of carotenoids in their 
> diet.  Would the most likely explanation for this particular bird be 
> that it escaped from captivity?
> 
> Larry
> 
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