Re: [cayugabirds-l] 1 R. S'bill + 1 R. S'bill = 1 or 2

[Gary Kohlenberg]

Hey John,

I only saw two B-b Whistling Ducks at the east end of the marsh. There could 
have been more hiding in plain sight with the Mallards that I didn’t see.

I’m still not sure about the Spoonbill number. I tried hard to verify more than 
one, but couldn’t do it definitively, even though our viewing times and 
locations sure seemed like two different birds.

Thanks for the heads up on the Bb ducks. My first visit in the pouring rain, 
thunder and lightning was such bad viewing I had given up.

Happy birding,
Gary

On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Karen  wrote:


I was watching a Roseate Spoonbill in the rain (i.e., we both were) at 
Knox-Marcellus. Considering that I had  a jacket and a small hat, I was getting 
wet. Gary drove up and got out with an umbrella, muck boots, and a rain jacket 
as I proceeded to get wetter. Gary said that Ken sed that he had seen two 
Black-bellied Whistling Ducks down Tow Path. Gary also said that Tow Path was 
rutted and had mosquitoes. I decided to try and got ~0.7 miles down the the 
tank trap lined with mosquito swarms to the first opening where you could see 
water. There was a pink Roseate Spoonbill between two taller American Egrets 
all while I was offering my limited supply of RBC to the swarms. I drove back 
down the tank trap and out to Gary who was overlooking the first Roseate 
Spoonbill, still in Knox-Marcellus although it had moved. These two locations 
are about 1400m apart (Google Earth). I feel fairly certain they were two birds.

While I was down the tank trap feeding mosquito swarms and watching the pink 
object in my scope, a small flock of ~5 ducks flew by, banked and showed an 
entirely black underside. I know, what are the odds that one would see a 
Roseate Spoonbill and 5 Black-bellied Whistling Ducks in one field of vision in 
upstate New York? To help restore my sense of sanity and self-confidence and 
credibility, would someone else drive a tank down Tow Path to the first opening 
and see if they find ducks with all black undersides flying around a Roseate 
Spoonbill.

Thanks, John
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] eBird Question

[Tom Schulenberg]

another way to see these observations is to go to the Explore page on
eBird, then select Alerts, and look for eBird alerts for the relevant
region - the ABA area, state of Wisconsin, or whatever. this shows all
recent reports of eBird of rare species, regardless of whether the records
have been confirmed yet by an eBird reviewer. the key limitation here is
'recent', since this will show observations only from the past seven days -
but if what you are looking for is within this window, then this probably
is the most efficient way to tracking down observations of interest.

tss

I believe that the reason is that so far the eBird reviewers for that
> region have not confirmed any of the sightings reported in eBird.  The
> eBird outputs --- at least the maps --- will only directly display these
> flagged rarities after they have been given a status of "confirmed" by
> regional reviewers.
>
> However, you can see the checklists with flagged species, if you can guess
> at another species that is also present on the same checklist, display all
> of the checklists with this "surrogate" species, and then by trial and
> error check all of the these checklists containing reports of the surrogate
> until you find one with the flagged species on it.  For example, by
> searching for all recent checklists from the general area with Mallards, I
> found this checklists with a Common Shelduck photo:
> https://ebird.org/wi/checklist/S92590436
>
> Wesley
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-125804771-3494...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-125804771-3494...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Carl J. Steckler
> Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:40 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] eBird Question
>
> For several days I have been getting eBird alerts about a Common Shelduck
> in Lake Winnebago  near Fond Du Lac WI. However when I search for this
> species on eBird it doesn't show.
>
> Does anyone know why this is?
>
> Carl
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[cayugabirds-l] 1 R. S'bill + 1 R. S'bill = 1 or 2

[Karen]

I was watching a Roseate Spoonbill in the rain (i.e., we both were) at 
Knox-Marcellus. Considering that I had  a jacket and a small hat, I was getting 
wet. Gary drove up and got out with an umbrella, muck boots, and a rain jacket 
as I proceeded to get wetter. Gary said that Ken sed that he had seen two 
Black-bellied Whistling Ducks down Tow Path. Gary also said that Tow Path was 
rutted and had mosquitoes. I decided to try and got ~0.7 miles down the the 
tank trap lined with mosquito swarms to the first opening where you could see 
water. There was a pink Roseate Spoonbill between two taller American Egrets 
all while I was offering my limited supply of RBC to the swarms. I drove back 
down the tank trap and out to Gary who was overlooking the first Roseate 
Spoonbill, still in Knox-Marcellus although it had moved. These two locations 
are about 1400m apart (Google Earth). I feel fairly certain they were two birds.
While I was down the tank trap feeding mosquito swarms and watching the pink 
object in my scope, a small flock of ~5 ducks flew by, banked and showed an 
entirely black underside. I know, what are the odds that one would see a 
Roseate Spoonbill and 5 Black-bellied Whistling Ducks in one field of vision in 
upstate New York? To help restore my sense of sanity and self-confidence and 
credibility, would someone else drive a tank down Tow Path to the first opening 
and see if they find ducks with all black undersides flying around a Roseate 
Spoonbill.
Thanks, John 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor behavior

[Donna Lee Scott]

The eagles seemed to be cooperating & when the one that snatched the fish got 
it, the other eagle did not seem to try to get it.

I can’t quite remember after that, but I think the 2 eagles flew off together. 
I think Barbara said they might be a pair, by the way they were acting.

But we didn’t watch them very long after that.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

 Were the eagles cooperating in the harassment? Did they continue to compete 
for the fish after the Osprey gave up? Did they go off together?

Also, has anyone seen an immature Bald Eagle successfully steal a fish from an 
Osprey?

- - Dave Nutter

On Aug 1, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Peter Saracino 
mailto:petersarac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Cool beans!
They ARE pirates those eagles
Pete Sar

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, 9:56 AM Candace E. Cornell 
mailto:cec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That is classic Bald Eagle behavior. Greater Black-backed Gulls will 
occasionally do this to Ospreys as well. Bald eagles are kleptoparasitic when 
it comes to fish. Eagles are always on the lookout for Osprey fishing. They'll 
wait patiently for the Osprey to score, then the eagle hassles the Osprey, 
forcing it to relinquish its catch. In-air catches are typical. Ospreys 
occasionally put up a fight for the fish and are sometimes killed by the larger 
bird.

Eyes to the sky!
Candace



On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Donna Lee Scott 
mailto:d...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Last Thursday from East Rd at Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Barbara Clise, Mike Tetlow 
& I watched 2 mature Bald Eagles chasing & harassing an Osprey that was 
carrying a fish.

The Osprey tried hard to escape, but eventually the eagles caused it to drop 
the silvery fish.
Both eagles swooped down after the fish, & just when we thought the fish would 
come to ground, 1 of the eagles caught it in the air!

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor behavior

[Dave Nutter]

Were the eagles cooperating in the harassment? Did they continue to compete for 
the fish after the Osprey gave up? Did they go off together? 

Also, has anyone seen an immature Bald Eagle successfully steal a fish from an 
Osprey? 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Peter Saracino  wrote:
> 
> Cool beans!
> They ARE pirates those eagles
> Pete Sar
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, 9:56 AM Candace E. Cornell  wrote:
>> That is classic Bald Eagle behavior. Greater Black-backed Gulls will 
>> occasionally do this to Ospreys as well. Bald eagles are kleptoparasitic 
>> when it comes to fish. Eagles are always on the lookout for Osprey fishing. 
>> They'll wait patiently for the Osprey to score, then the eagle hassles the 
>> Osprey, forcing it to relinquish its catch. In-air catches are typical. 
>> Ospreys occasionally put up a fight for the fish and are sometimes killed by 
>> the larger bird.
>> 
>> Eyes to the sky!
>> Candace
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
>>> Last Thursday from East Rd at Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Barbara Clise, Mike 
>>> Tetlow & I watched 2 mature Bald Eagles chasing & harassing an Osprey that 
>>> was carrying a fish. 
>>> 
>>> The Osprey tried hard to escape, but eventually the eagles caused it to 
>>> drop the silvery fish. 
>>> Both eagles swooped down after the fish, & just when we thought the fish 
>>> would come to ground, 1 of the eagles caught it in the air!
>>> 
>>> Donna Scott
>>> Lansing
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RE:[cayugabirds-l] eBird Question

[Wesley M. Hochachka]

I believe that the reason is that so far the eBird reviewers for that region 
have not confirmed any of the sightings reported in eBird.  The eBird outputs 
--- at least the maps --- will only directly display these flagged rarities 
after they have been given a status of "confirmed" by regional reviewers.

However, you can see the checklists with flagged species, if you can guess at 
another species that is also present on the same checklist, display all of the 
checklists with this "surrogate" species, and then by trial and error check all 
of the these checklists containing reports of the surrogate until you find one 
with the flagged species on it.  For example, by searching for all recent 
checklists from the general area with Mallards, I found this checklists with a 
Common Shelduck photo: https://ebird.org/wi/checklist/S92590436

Wesley





-Original Message-
From: bounce-125804771-3494...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Carl J. Steckler
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:40 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] eBird Question

For several days I have been getting eBird alerts about a Common Shelduck in 
Lake Winnebago  near Fond Du Lac WI. However when I search for this species on 
eBird it doesn't show.

Does anyone know why this is?

Carl


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[cayugabirds-l] eBird Question

[Carl J. Steckler]

For several days I have been getting eBird alerts about a Common 
Shelduck in Lake Winnebago  near Fond Du Lac WI. However when I search 
for this species on eBird it doesn't show.

Does anyone know why this is?

Carl


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[cayugabirds-l] Blackburnian and cowbird

[Laura Stenzler]

Hi all
I just observed a Blackburnian warbler feeding a huge cowbird chick. I’ve never 
seen this before- it’s quite distressing. I guess it’s good for the cowbird, 
bad for the Blackburnian!

Laura

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor behavior

[Peter Saracino]

Cool beans!
They ARE pirates those eagles
Pete Sar

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, 9:56 AM Candace E. Cornell  wrote:

> That is classic Bald Eagle behavior. Greater Black-backed Gulls will
> occasionally do this to Ospreys as well. Bald eagles are kleptoparasitic
> when it comes to fish. Eagles are always on the lookout for Osprey fishing.
> They'll wait patiently for the Osprey to score, then the eagle hassles the
> Osprey, forcing it to relinquish its catch. In-air catches are typical.
> Ospreys occasionally put up a fight for the fish and are sometimes killed
> by the larger bird.
>
> Eyes to the sky!
> Candace
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
>
>> Last Thursday from East Rd at Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Barbara Clise, Mike
>> Tetlow & I watched 2 mature Bald Eagles chasing & harassing an Osprey that
>> was carrying a fish.
>>
>> The Osprey tried hard to escape, but eventually the eagles caused it to
>> drop the silvery fish.
>> Both eagles swooped down after the fish, & just when we thought the fish
>> would come to ground, 1 of the eagles caught it in the air!
>>
>> Donna Scott
>> Lansing
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor behavior

[Candace E. Cornell]

That is classic Bald Eagle behavior. Greater Black-backed Gulls will
occasionally do this to Ospreys as well. Bald eagles are kleptoparasitic
when it comes to fish. Eagles are always on the lookout for Osprey fishing.
They'll wait patiently for the Osprey to score, then the eagle hassles the
Osprey, forcing it to relinquish its catch. In-air catches are typical.
Ospreys occasionally put up a fight for the fish and are sometimes killed
by the larger bird.

Eyes to the sky!
Candace



On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> Last Thursday from East Rd at Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Barbara Clise, Mike
> Tetlow & I watched 2 mature Bald Eagles chasing & harassing an Osprey that
> was carrying a fish.
>
> The Osprey tried hard to escape, but eventually the eagles caused it to
> drop the silvery fish.
> Both eagles swooped down after the fish, & just when we thought the fish
> would come to ground, 1 of the eagles caught it in the air!
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Raptor behavior

[Donna Lee Scott]

Last Thursday from East Rd at Knox-Marcellus Marsh, Barbara Clise, Mike Tetlow 
& I watched 2 mature Bald Eagles chasing & harassing an Osprey that was 
carrying a fish.

The Osprey tried hard to escape, but eventually the eagles caused it to drop 
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