Re: [cayugabirds-l] our birds are picky, only Sunflower seeds for them

[AB Clark]

I have no idea whether this thought applies to Nyger and Sunflower, or for
that matter, mixes with one or more kinds of millet and some safflower
seed, but in my days with a research flock of budgerigars, it may be the
mix that is the best diet.  It transpires that canary seed and millet seed
have very different and somewhat complimentary nutritional profiles.  For
their seed portion of the diet, it was supposed to be much better for
budgies to eat both, and indeed they did (except when fearful, when they
switched to all millet, but that is another story).

But to relate it to what everyone sees at their feeders, budgies do NOT eat
equal amounts of the two seeds which do require different processing
techniques.  If one followed what they were eating seed by seed vs spending
time eating vs were interested in eating after only one was available for a
while, one might come up with different impressions on their preferences.

So I wonder--even if goldfinches are concentrating on sunflower chips
(speedy and oily and big return on time), do they also occasionally eat
nyger as a more complete diet?  I don't know that I have ever seen a study
looking at preferences before or after having only one choice--and that
might be when one would notice an unusual or opposite preference for a
time. As observers, we might interpret visits to another feeder as
"avoiding more dominant species", when in fact the bird is making its quick
diet-completing stop!

Anne

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 7:26 PM Fred Rimmel  wrote:

> Back in the 80’s  I participated in a bird feed and feeder study conducted
> for USFW out of Patuxent Wildlife Research Center.  One of the results was
> that the “favorite” food of goldfinches was hulled sunflower kernels.
> That’s not to say they won’t eat other seeds just that when given options
> and when they aren’t out competed at the feeding station by other species
> they prefer hulled sunflower.  This was just one of the results of the
> study that looked at numerous seed types and presentation methods.  We feed
> just hulled sunflower in our feeders and in recent weeks regularly have 30
> to 75 or more goldfinches at a time.  Also, had a few pine siskin for the
> first time today.
> Fred
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
>
> Black oil sunflower seed in the big hopper, sure, but I offer Nyjer all by
> itself in a dedicated finch feeder, and the Goldfinches are very happy with
> that. I buy 5# bags at Agway; Lizzie Mae’s Birdseed and Dry Goods Company.
> The bags are zip-lock, but I transfer the Nyjer to 1-qt plastic jugs with
> screw caps; they stand up in the back of the fridge or freezer, taking up
> very little space, and they make topping-up the feeder very easy and neat.
>
> -Geo
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 5:22 PM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson 
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> Sunflower, Niger, etc. We have tried this in the past with Sunflower and
> Niger seed feeds. Even the Goldfinches barely touched our Niger seed. It
> was "fresh" from Agway, stored in the fridge until put out. Forget about
> the mixes with Milo and Corn.
> So now we just put out Sunflower seed, spread some seed on trays on the
> ground. Last winter we had a Mourning Dove that figured out how to land on
> our rectangular metal feeder. Which was quite entertaining to watch. Since
> this feeder has a squirrel baffle on the post, we have used a stick to fix
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] our birds are picky, only Sunflower seeds for them

[Fred Rimmel]

Back in the 80’s  I participated in a bird feed and feeder study conducted for 
USFW out of Patuxent Wildlife Research Center.  One of the results was that the 
“favorite” food of goldfinches was hulled sunflower kernels. That’s not to say 
they won’t eat other seeds just that when given options and when they aren’t 
out competed at the feeding station by other species they prefer hulled 
sunflower.  This was just one of the results of the study that looked at 
numerous seed types and presentation methods.  We feed just hulled sunflower in 
our feeders and in recent weeks regularly have 30 to 75 or more goldfinches at 
a time.  Also, had a few pine siskin for the first time today.  
Fred


> On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
> 
> Black oil sunflower seed in the big hopper, sure, but I offer Nyjer all by 
> itself in a dedicated finch feeder, and the Goldfinches are very happy with 
> that. I buy 5# bags at Agway; Lizzie Mae’s Birdseed and Dry Goods Company. 
> The bags are zip-lock, but I transfer the Nyjer to 1-qt plastic jugs with 
> screw caps; they stand up in the back of the fridge or freezer, taking up 
> very little space, and they make topping-up the feeder very easy and neat.
> 
> -Geo
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 5:22 PM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Some folks on CAYUGABIRDS-L fill their feeders with different seeds - 
>> Sunflower, Niger, etc. We have tried this in the past with Sunflower and 
>> Niger seed feeds. Even the Goldfinches barely touched our Niger seed. It was 
>> "fresh" from Agway, stored in the fridge until put out. Forget about the 
>> mixes with Milo and Corn.
>> So now we just put out Sunflower seed, spread some seed on trays on the 
>> ground. Last winter we had a Mourning Dove that figured out how to land on 
>> our rectangular metal feeder. Which was quite entertaining to watch. Since 
>> this feeder has a squirrel baffle on the post, we have used a stick to fix 
>> the movable perch in place.
>> Nigel
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] our birds are picky, only Sunflower seeds for them

[Geo Kloppel]

Black oil sunflower seed in the big hopper, sure, but I offer Nyjer all by 
itself in a dedicated finch feeder, and the Goldfinches are very happy with 
that. I buy 5# bags at Agway; Lizzie Mae’s Birdseed and Dry Goods Company. The 
bags are zip-lock, but I transfer the Nyjer to 1-qt plastic jugs with screw 
caps; they stand up in the back of the fridge or freezer, taking up very little 
space, and they make topping-up the feeder very easy and neat.

-Geo


> On Jan 31, 2024, at 5:22 PM, Nigel Dyson-Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Some folks on CAYUGABIRDS-L fill their feeders with different seeds - 
> Sunflower, Niger, etc. We have tried this in the past with Sunflower and 
> Niger seed feeds. Even the Goldfinches barely touched our Niger seed. It was 
> "fresh" from Agway, stored in the fridge until put out. Forget about the 
> mixes with Milo and Corn.
> So now we just put out Sunflower seed, spread some seed on trays on the 
> ground. Last winter we had a Mourning Dove that figured out how to land on 
> our rectangular metal feeder. Which was quite entertaining to watch. Since 
> this feeder has a squirrel baffle on the post, we have used a stick to fix 
> the movable perch in place.
> Nigel
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[cayugabirds-l] our birds are picky, only Sunflower seeds for them

[Nigel Dyson-Hudson]

Some folks on CAYUGABIRDS-L fill their feeders with different seeds - 
Sunflower, Niger, etc. We have tried this in the past with Sunflower and 
Niger seed feeds. Even the Goldfinches barely touched our Niger seed. It 
was "fresh" from Agway, stored in the fridge until put out. Forget about 
the mixes with Milo and Corn.
So now we just put out Sunflower seed, spread some seed on trays on the 
ground. Last winter we had a Mourning Dove that figured out how to land 
on our rectangular metal feeder. Which was quite entertaining to watch. 
Since this feeder has a squirrel baffle on the post, we have used a 
stick to fix the movable perch in place.

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[cayugabirds-l] Leucitic Birds

[JoKayaks]

I have noticed several species with leucitic traits this summer. A Common 
Grackle that was nearly cream colored with a light beak, a Northern Cardinal 
that was white on chest neck and head with pink and red highlights on wings, 
crest, and tail, and an American Robin with one white wing.  I may see one such 
bird now and then but this seems unusual.  Thoughts?   

I also noticed some early migrants down in SW PA. A WTSP for one. Here several 
months early. Wondering fires in Canada have resulted in poor nesting and food 
acquisition and hence early migration. Anyone else heard of any research on the 
impact of the fires on migration?

Jo

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] More birds

[Geo Kloppel]

… also Veery, Black-throated Blue Warbler, Blackburnian Warbler

-Geo


> On May 7, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
> 
> …Baltimore Oriole, Black-throated Green Warbler, Nashville Warbler, 
> Black-and-white Warbler, Red-eyed Vireo, Chestnut sided Warbler
> 
> -Geo
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Laura Stenzler  wrote:
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>> FOY Red-eyed vireo and scarlet tanager added to yard list!
>> 
>> Laura
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] More birds

[Geo Kloppel]

…Baltimore Oriole, Black-throated Green Warbler, Nashville Warbler, 
Black-and-white Warbler, Red-eyed Vireo, Chestnut sided Warbler

-Geo


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FOY Red-eyed vireo and scarlet tanager added to yard list!

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[cayugabirds-l] new birds this morning including RB Grosbeak

[Alicia Plotkin]

I didn't think there would be much migrating in last night but some 
birds showed up here (SW corner Town of Ovid, Seneca Basin).  Best was a 
male Rose-Breasted Grosbeak who spent 45 minutes first thing this 
morning gleaning the oak tassels and ignoring our sunflower feeders, and 
hasn't been seen since.  Also a mob of White-Throated Sparrows, we've 
had a few this past week but as of today they are everywhere singing 
their hearts out.  A couple Red-Breasted Nuthatches (uncommon on our 
property) and the barn swallow contingent has gone way up in numbers.  
Still have a lot of Yellow Rumped Warblers, but as of today they are 
joined only by a couple of Palm and one Pine Warbler.


Don't recall ever hosting a RB Grosbeak ahead of our first Baltimore 
Oriole before.  Birds like to mix it up.


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[cayugabirds-l] Yard birds Trumansburg

[Alyssa Johnson]

Some interesting newly arrived or newly active birds in the yard this morning:

Seen and heard:
Eastern Towhees
Ruby-crowned Kinglets
Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers (drumming, working on a cavity, and defending it from 
Red-bellies)
White-throated Sparrows 
Dark-eyed Juncos
Purple Finches 
Red-bellied Woodpeckers (trilling)
Red-winged Blackbirds (nest building)
House Finches 
Common Raven

Heard but not seen:
Eastern Screech Owls (counter singing @ 1:40 am)
Chipping Sparrows 
Swamp Sparrow

Other notable critters: 
tree frogs trilling
bats
mourning cloaks
Eastern spotted newts breeding in the pond
BLACK FLIES 

I also found mayapple and trout lily leaves popping up! 

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[cayugabirds-l] What birds do each month

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[cayugabirds-l] yard birds

[David McDermitt]

Enjoyed watching a male yellow-bellied sapsucker work his way around some
trees in our back woodlot in Danby this morning. A huge raven flew
southwest over the creek while a couple cowbirds perched nearby and a
white-breasted nuthatch picked its way head-first down a snag.

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[cayugabirds-l] Not Birds: Auroras (Tonight)

[Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes]

I’m reading that there may be a chance for auroras in the skies of New York 
tonight, as a result of the recent dead sunspot CME (Coronal Mass Ejection). 
Auroras are underway right now across northern Europe and the North Atlantic. 
It is yet to be determined if the auroras will continue long-enough into 
nightfall across New York State or not. Weather prediction calls for relatively 
clear skies (not overcast) from around 8/9pm until 2/3am.

More can be interpreted here: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

Fingers crossed. It’s been years since I’ve seen auroras.

Sincerely,
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds but important

[Sandra J. Kisner]

An excellent article with descriptions of fake masks and links to sources:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/20/you-can-now-get-free-n95-masksheres-where-to-find-them.html

Sandra


How to Get Your Free N95 Masks From the Government at Your Local Pharmacy
https://www.prevention.com/health/a38815550/free-n95-mask-government/
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds but important

[Stanley Scharf]

Thanks a lot..
Stan

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:58 AM Peter Saracino 
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> How to Get Your Free N95 Masks From the Government at Your Local Pharmacy
> https://www.prevention.com/health/a38815550/free-n95-mask-government/
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[cayugabirds-l] Not birds but important

[Peter Saracino]

How to Get Your Free N95 Masks From the Government at Your Local Pharmacy
https://www.prevention.com/health/a38815550/free-n95-mask-government/
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds but.....

[tess]

Three options (at least):

(1) Peter's resource is great because it seems like at least initially, 
the government will have kits on hand to send out.

(2) But /in addition/_,_ for those who can find at-home tests for sale, 
anyone with health insurance /also/ can get 8 free tests/month.  So if 
you are a family of 3, your family can get up to 24 tests every month 
for free.  Each insurer will have it's own procedure so you may need to 
go online to find out if you can just show your card at the pharmacy to 
get them for free or if you will have to pay upfront and submit a claim 
to be reimbursed.  Right now at-home testing kits are hard to find but 
in a few weeks that should improve.

(3) If you want to be tested and can't find a kit, Tompkins & Cortland 
County residents still can get free drive through testing by appointment 
- more info here .  Others also may be 
able to get free tests by appointment if there is a need (they have 
symptoms, upcoming medical procedure, etc) or if their insurance or 
employer has an agreement with CMC - info here 
.

You can do any or all of these, choosing one doesn't mean you can't do 
the others.

And Birding Content: 3 snowy owls close by the Martin Rd. pull off 
yesterday afternoon, and roughly a zillion swans at the ice edge near 
the south end of Lower Lake Rd (where it meets Rte 89, south of Cayuga 
Lake SP).



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[cayugabirds-l] Not birds but.....

[Peter Saracino]

Free at home Covid19 rapid test availability starting Wednesday at
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] How birds "see" Earth's Magnetic Field

[Peter Saracino]

FRITZ I just finished Scott Weidensaul's latest book on Migration (A World
On The Wing - Copyright 2021) and he relates the same messageblue light
actually reacting at a quantum level in the birds eyes.a cool example
of "entanglement". Check it out for yourself.
Pete Sar


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 9:23 AM John and Fritzie Blizzard <
job121...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  Since this article is 3 yrs. old, one wonders what progress has occurred
> since then.
>
> Fritzie
> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Peter Saracino wrote:
>
> Yet another reason to respect, admire, cherish and even reverence our
> avian- fellow travelers.
> Sar
>
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/we-finally-know-how-birds-can-see-earths-magnetic-field/
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[John and Fritzie Blizzard]

  Since this article is 3 yrs. old, one wonders what progress has 
occurred since then.

Fritzie

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> Yet another reason to respect, admire, cherish and even reverence our 
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> Sar
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/04/04/we-finally-know-how-birds-can-see-earths-magnetic-field/
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Yet another reason to respect, admire, cherish and even reverence our
avian- fellow travelers.
Sar

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[cayugabirds-l] Evening birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Yesterday evening was graced by the songs of 3 Wood Thrush, 3 Carolina Wrens 
(1-2 babies), a Brown Thrasher, a Scarlet Tanager,
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[cayugabirds-l] Evening birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Birds before dusk last night included 5 Cedar Waxwings eating cherries, 2 Wood 
Thrush singing, 3 cowbirds, a Gray Catbird, 2 Cardinals, 2 B Orioles, a 
Yellow-billed Cuckoo, a Belted Kingfisher, & 2 Ospreys.

Ospreys flew east from the lake; one was carrying a skinny fish; this O was 
still shaking the water from its feathers, so had a rather uneven , bouncy 
flight for a minute!
The Os continued east over treetops & out of sight.
I wondered where they were headed.
Nearest nest tower is at entrance to power plant, about 1 -2 miles away.

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[cayugabirds-l] Backyard birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Eastern Wood Peewee, FOY
Red-eyed Vireo, FOY
Brown Thrasher
All singing.
Only Thrasher was seen.

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[cayugabirds-l] Yard birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

FOY in my yard this morning-
Magnolia Warbler, foraging in pear tree blossoms;
Then, later,  as I was searching on high for the singing foy-yard Scarlet 
Tanager,
a foy-yard  Black-billed Cuckoo ‘coo-coo-ed’ from opposite end of yard!
It flew before I got on it; then I saw it zoom past again over RR track!

Meanwhile, the now regular ‘feeder/singing’ birds Orioles (B) , Rose-breasted 
Grosbeaks, & Gray Catbirds abound. Saw one Catbird carrying a long weed stem 
for probable nest.

Wood Thrush still singing in woods across road!

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[cayugabirds-l] Woods birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Heard and saw both a black and white warbler and “my” wood thrush in my woods 
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[cayugabirds-l] Evening birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

I was so lucky to see 2 beautiful Indigo Buntings nestled in thick Redbud 
blossoms in my front yard! What a color combo!

Then half an hour later, I saw 3 Orioles in the pretty, large, pinky-white 
Japonica bush blossoms
 - 1 adult male Orchard & 1 - 1st-year male Orchard, & a female Baltimore!
Lots of Baltimores here, all around.

No wonder all the grape jelly was gone when I got home after the Salt Point 
work party.
Gray Catbirds are eating it, too.
Time to buy a case.

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[cayugabirds-l] FOY birds

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Thursday morning FOY birds : catbird, house wren, and blue-winged warbler!
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[cayugabirds-l] feeder birds

[Colleen Richards]

We have multiple feeders outside our kitchen windows, including a 1' x 2' 
windowsill extension platform. In the past hour, chickadees, junco, cardinals, 
song and fox sparrows, blue jay, mourning doves, white-breasted nuthatch, and a 
male red-winged blackbird have all sat just outside my window to eat. The 
goldfinches, house finches, starling, downy, and robin prefer the other feeders 
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[cayugabirds-l] Lake birds/Lansing

[Donna Lee Scott]

For a weekend, It’s calm and quiet on the lake as I eat my lunch on my boat 
house deck.
 8 Common Loons have been ranged out around in front of me all the way over to 
the west shore. 2 more to the north, probably more.
I got to see one pattering on the water to take off and fly north -something 
you don’t see every day!

A pair each of Red- breasted & Common Mergansers, with a Kingfisher zipping 
back & forth.

A few Ring-billed gulls waiting to see if they can steal a goodie from the 
divers. Several Robins, Grackles & Red-winged Blackbirds on shore, too.
Grackles exploring the docks on top & underneath.
Meanwhile, up at the house, I have a whole herd of cowbirds!

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Female birds that sing

[Mona Bearor]

Thank you, I’ll pass your comments on to the local birders here in VA.
Mona
 
From: Jay McGowan [mailto:jw...@cornell.edu] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 10:23 AM
To: Mona Bearor 
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Female birds that sing
 
Hi Mona,
Being conservative about that assumption is probably wise. It is worth noting 
that in eBird, the breeding code "S" has been changed to "Singing bird" to 
reflect our changing understanding of this behavior. If you're not seeing that, 
you may need to update your app.
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:14 AM Mona Bearor mailto:conservebi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
I am wondering if there is a definitive list of North American bird species 
that have singing females.  If I can identify a singing bird by the song but 
don't see it I tend to think it is a male and in the past have reported it as 
such to eBird, with the exception of Northern Cardinal, I know the females 
cardinals will sing. I have seen the spreadsheet found at 
http://femalebirdsong.org/ but would be happy to find a list that did not 
require searching through almost 1200 species.  Anyone know of such a list?  
For now I am going to stop reporting any singing birds as male unless I see 
them sing and can positively ID sex of the bird.  I suspect others are having 
this problem as well and it does affect the reporting of breeding codes as all 
singing birds would have to be seen and sexed to report “singing male.”  Any 
thoughts?
 
Mona Bearor
Stuart’s Draft Hwy, Staunton, Virginia
 
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Female birds that sing

[Jay McGowan]

Hi Mona,
Being conservative about that assumption is probably wise. It is worth
noting that in eBird, the breeding code "S" has been changed to "Singing
bird" to reflect our changing understanding of this behavior. If you're not
seeing that, you may need to update your app.

Cheers,
Jay

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:14 AM Mona Bearor 
wrote:

> I am wondering if there is a definitive list of North American bird
> species that have singing females.  If I can identify a singing bird by
> the song but don't see it I tend to think it is a male and in the past have
> reported it as such to eBird, with the exception of Northern Cardinal, I
> know the females cardinals will sing. I have seen the spreadsheet found at
> http://femalebirdsong.org/ but would be happy to find a list that did not
> require searching through almost 1200 species.  Anyone know of such a
> list?  For now I am going to stop reporting any singing birds as male
> unless I see them sing and can positively ID sex of the bird.  I suspect
> others are having this problem as well and it does affect the reporting of
> breeding codes as all singing birds would have to be seen and sexed to
> report “singing male.”  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Mona Bearor
>
> Stuart’s Draft Hwy, Staunton, Virginia
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[cayugabirds-l] Female birds that sing

[Mona Bearor]

I am wondering if there is a definitive list of North American bird species
that have singing females.  If I can identify a singing bird by the song but
don't see it I tend to think it is a male and in the past have reported it
as such to eBird, with the exception of Northern Cardinal, I know the
females cardinals will sing. I have seen the spreadsheet found at
http://femalebirdsong.org/ but would be happy to find a list that did not
require searching through almost 1200 species.  Anyone know of such a list?
For now I am going to stop reporting any singing birds as male unless I see
them sing and can positively ID sex of the bird.  I suspect others are
having this problem as well and it does affect the reporting of breeding
codes as all singing birds would have to be seen and sexed to report
"singing male."  Any thoughts?
 
Mona Bearor
Stuart's Draft Hwy, Staunton, Virginia
 
 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] No Birds

[Paul Schmitt]

I agree with Marie and add that sometimes they find something better-
less wind exposure or richer food.My hummingbirds disappear for about 8
to 10 days each summer and I figure there is a temporary food source they
prefer.  The squirrels disappeared from the feeders here for about 5 days,
and then were back.

Paul Schmitt

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 6:28 PM Marie P. Read  wrote:

> My bet would be the weather. Yesterday was cold and windy...birds are more
> hungry in those circumstances.
> Today it's much milder.
>
> Marie
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> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:24 PM Carl Steckler 
> wrote:
>
> Yesterday there were dozens of birds at my feeders. So many that I had to
> refill the seed cake feeders.
>
> Today I have not seen any birds at all.
>
> Very strange , any one have any ideas?
> Carl
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] No Birds

[Marie P. Read]

My bet would be the weather. Yesterday was cold and windy...birds are more 
hungry in those circumstances.
Today it's much milder.

Marie

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:24 PM Carl Steckler 
mailto:simmshil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yesterday there were dozens of birds at my feeders. So many that I had to 
refill the seed cake feeders.

Today I have not seen any birds at all.

Very strange , any one have any ideas?
Carl
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] No Birds

[Todd Beeton]

After a couple of weeks of nonstop action out at my feeders (I'm in Geneva)
it's been more than a week without a single bird. The high activity of
mostly sparrows, chickadees and a couple woodpeckers and nuthatches at my
feeders corresponded with flocks of robins and starlings that took over my
neighborhood thanks to some nearby berry trees. But they did all seem to
leave at once. I've changed the seed as well as the location of my suet
feeder, to no avail. The squirrels are quite content not to have the
competition. But I am similarly puzzled.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 5:24 PM Carl Steckler  wrote:

> Yesterday there were dozens of birds at my feeders. So many that I had to
> refill the seed cake feeders.
>
> Today I have not seen any birds at all.
>
> Very strange , any one have any ideas?
> Carl
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[cayugabirds-l] No Birds

[Carl Steckler]

Yesterday there were dozens of birds at my feeders. So many that I had to
refill the seed cake feeders.

Today I have not seen any birds at all.

Very strange , any one have any ideas?
Carl

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

[Brad Walker]

If you do find dead birds like this (if they're fresh and not freeze-dried
or damaged) you can store them in your freezer in plastic bag so they can
be donated to the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates the Cornell Lab of
Ornithology (when they eventually are open for the public again). I'm not
sure if there's any system in place currently for accepting specimens. If
you decide to store one, you should put a little slip of paper in the bag
that says the date, location, and how the bird died (or how you found it).
You don't have to worry about identifying the bird if you don't know what
it is. And freezer bags are always better, since they're made for keeping
things safe in a freezer.

--Brad

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:29 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> Over a month ago, I found one dead Siskin under my backyard feeders.
> 16 others seemed fine & later moved on to somewhere else.
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Wesley M. Hochachka  wrote:
>
> If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first
> reaction is that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you
> might have observed these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up
> near the bird feeder at some point before you found the dead bird on the
> ground.
>
> Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are
> an unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.
> Taking down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further
> transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start
> congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the
> area.
>
> Wesley Hochachka
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder
>
> Hello all,
>
> In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a
> feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent
> injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the
> feeders clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did
> not accept our request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept
> two of them in a sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets
> outside our windows to prevent birds from hitting them.
>
> Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from
> happening again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10
> years we’ve lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed
> birds.
>
> Many thanks,
> Patrizia Sione
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

[Donna Lee Scott]

Over a month ago, I found one dead Siskin under my backyard feeders.
16 others seemed fine & later moved on to somewhere else.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Wesley M. Hochachka 
mailto:w...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first reaction is 
that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you might have observed 
these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up near the bird feeder at 
some point before you found the dead bird on the ground.

Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are an 
unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.  Taking 
down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further 
transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start 
congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the area.

Wesley Hochachka




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From: 
bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu>
 
mailto:bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

Hello all,

In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a 
feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent 
injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the feeders 
clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did not accept our 
request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept two of them in a 
sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets outside our windows to 
prevent birds from hitting them.

Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from happening 
again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10 years we’ve 
lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed birds.

Many thanks,
Patrizia Sione



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RE:[cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

[Wesley M. Hochachka]

If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first reaction is 
that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you might have observed 
these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up near the bird feeder at 
some point before you found the dead bird on the ground.

Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are an 
unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.  Taking 
down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further 
transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start 
congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the area.

Wesley Hochachka




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From: bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

Hello all,

In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a 
feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent 
injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the feeders 
clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did not accept our 
request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept two of them in a 
sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets outside our windows to 
prevent birds from hitting them.  

Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from happening 
again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10 years we’ve 
lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed birds.

Many thanks,
Patrizia Sione



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

[Michael Ludgate]

There have some been problems with pesticides in birdfeed in the past
https://www.audubon.org/news/pesticides-bird-seed-scotts-miracle-gro-fined-125-million

Cheers,
-Mike :-)

*Michael Ludgate*
canaaninstitute.org 
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Quarantine photos; mostly from near our home https://adobe.ly/3fLCiU3



On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:30 AM Patrizia Sione  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a
> feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent
> injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the
> feeders clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did
> not accept our request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept
> two of them in a sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets
> outside our windows to prevent birds from hitting them.
>
> Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from
> happening again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10
> years we’ve lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed
> birds.
>
> Many thanks,
> Patrizia Sione
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[cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

[Patrizia Sione]

Hello all,

In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a 
feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent 
injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the feeders 
clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did not accept our 
request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept two of them in a 
sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets outside our windows to 
prevent birds from hitting them.  

Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from happening 
again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10 years we’ve 
lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed birds.

Many thanks,
Patrizia Sione



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[cayugabirds-l] Field Birds

[Suan Hsi Yong]

With the sunny weather I decided to take the afternoon off and drive
around north of Lansing looking for field birds. With the high snow
depth they were pretty easy to encounter, foraging by roadsides and
flushing on approach. Those wanting to look for them, just drive
slowly along any of the less-traveled roads between big fields.

I stopped to photograph three main groups with different dynamics. The
first had about a dozen each of Horned Larks and Snow Buntings, and
they tended to hang out with their own species but loosely associated
with each other. This was somewhere along Conlon Road, I think (I need
to take better mental notes). Also had a Common Redpoll flock of about
a dozen somewhere here. The second group along Indian Field Road just
north of 90 was smaller, about a dozen Horned Larks with 3-4 Snow
Buntings and two Lapland Longspurs (lifers for me, actually). I'm
guessing because the Snow Bunting number was smaller, the group tended
to stay together more as one group. Before I left a lone Common
Redpoll also joined this group. The third group was a very large flock
of 100+ snow buntings around Fennel and Snushal Roads, big enough to
murmurate like starlings.

An interesting observation was that the smaller groups were more
approachable than the large flock. The common redpoll flock was most
approachable, while the smaller field bird flocks were a close second.
I'm guessing that the flushing dynamic of these flocks relates to a
single individual sounding an alarm that triggers the flush, and that
the large flock was more likely to have the one jumpy individual to
sound the alarm to trigger the flock to flush, but this is just
conjecture. Also, flushing behavior on foot vs. by car was noticeably
different: on foot they tended to fly farther away while in the car
they seemed to only flush a shorter distance. When the birds were
backlit I actually had trouble driving to the other side of the flock,
as I just kept pushing them down the road bit by bit -- I might have
had better luck if I drove by fast.

Finally, at Salt Point I flushed a/the continuing Killdeer from the beach.

Suan

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[cayugabirds-l] lakeshore birds

[Linda Post Van Buskirk]

>From Rt 90, just north of Aurora

A good flock of mostly redheads; I was very pleased to see quite a few 
canvasbacks, some scaup, and some little ones that were obscured by the trees.  
An adult eagle few over.  Several minutes later, my collie alerted me to two 
immature eagles perched on the lakeshore trees.  The flock soon flew north.  
I'm assuming that the immatures were progeny of the pair that nests at Paine's 
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[cayugabirds-l] Winter Birds and Winter Birding

[Mike Powers]

Hi everyone,

I set out with a couple of friends to look for some of the rarities that
have been recently reported. In spite of this being 2020, coupled with
the brutal combination of freezing temps and steady breeze, we happily
found all of our target birds for the day.

On our way out of Watkins Glen we stopped by Fitzgerald Road where we found
approximately 250 COMMON REDPOLLS moving quickly (and constantly) through a
weedy field. The entire time we were searching there were two ROUGH-LEGGED
HAWKS circling, then occasionally perching but never long enough for us to
put a scope on them.

We arrived at the stone quarry on Hoster Road at 9:15 and as we were
getting out of our cars we spotted the GYRFALCON flying from the quarry to
the east. It spent a few minutes flying/soaring above the open field,
during that time we didn't dare lower our binoculars so no photos of this
gorgeous bird before it disappeared behind the treeline towards Seybolt
road. We were unable to refind it, but during our search we did come across
a BALD EAGLE, ROUGH-LEGGED and RED-TAILED HAWKS, and perhaps the most
surprising bird of the trip, a KILLDEER along Stahl Road.

Deciding to press our luck, we headed to Martin Road and found the SNOWY
OWL along the runway where others have reported it: near Winsock B,
hunkered down in the wind, looking like a white gallon jug that
occasionally blinked and turned its head.  We went into the airport's
parking lot for a slightly better, but at least closer view.

We didn't find much in the way of waterfowl on our trip down the west side
of Cayuga Lake, nor at our final stop at Clute Park in Watkins Glen.

A sincere thank you to everyone who has posted about their hits or misses,
and especially to those that helped me nail down specific details about how
to best approach finding these elusive birds. It turns out the third time
visiting Hoster Road was the charm for me . . . this was a great way to end
2020!

Cheers,
Mike

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[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma birds this morning

[Johnson, Alyssa]

Hello all,

It was a very cold and blustery morning, but had good birding. Here are a few 
notes about my trip:

-I did not see any cranes at the Sandhill Crane Unit on Van Dyne Spoor Rd. Many 
ducks out in the distance! Hard to see with the snow. White-crowned sparrows 
were making some noise on the north side of the road (DEC). And lastly, an 
American Kestral on the power lines.

-Next, Knox Marsellus Marsh. At first I did not see any cranes on East Rd, and 
thought maybe they booked south with this cold and snow. But as I was getting 
out of my car, I heard them and about 100 flew in from a cornfield southwest of 
the road. Kind of behind those solar panels, if you're familiar with the area. 
They flew to Puddler Marsh, and I lost them in the tall vegetation. Also at 
this spot, had a Common Loon fly over! Definitely was not expecting that, I 
thought it was a Double-crested Cormorant at first.

-The refuge visitor center pool was where the action was at. We pulled in and 
counted 52 Sandhill Cranes right there in front. It was so cool! A Northern 
Harrier popped up too and gave a show in the wind. Right as we were leaving, a 
subadult Bald Eagle flew in pretty low, circled, kicked up some ducks, and went 
on it's way. We could hear and see swans deep in the Main Pool, but not well 
enough to ID or count.

The Wildlife Drive is now closed for the season. Andrea at the refuge put 
together a great FB post about what's open and what's not right now at 
Montezuma NWR. Here's the link to that: 
https://www.facebook.com/MontezumaNWR/photos/a.108438664332776/168733634969945/

Stay safe, healthy, and warm!

Alyssa

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Montezuma Audubon Center
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[cayugabirds-l] Yard birds

[Carol Keeler]

I got a rarity to my yard this morning- a fox sparrow!  I’m still getting one 
White Throat.  I have been getting a few Pine Siskins.  No Evening Grosbeaks 
yet.  I’m lucky to get any birds here with the roofers here many days.  They 
finished yesterday so maybe those Grosbeaks will finally show up.  I’m pleased 
to get the Fox Sparrow.

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[cayugabirds-l] Neat birds at Stewart Park

[Jody Enck]

Hi All,
After a fun and productive morning birding out at Lindsay-Parson's Nature
Preserve (Coleman Lake has some of the best shorebird habitat in the county
right now), I stopped by Stewart Park around noon.  Lots of people and hot,
but some fun birds, too.  The Blue-winged Teal reported a couple days ago
by Jay McGowan was with the Mallards off-shore on the east side.  While
scoping through the ducks and gulls over there, I was slightly surprised to
spy 2 Pied-billed Grebes.  A couple of Spotted Sandpipers and a single
Least Sandpiper were along the shoreline down closer to the Boat House.
Among the willow branches at the waterline across Fall Creek from the Boat
House, I found a gorgeous, immature Black-crowned Night-heron.

I saw 40 species at Lindsay-Parsons, and I missed probably 5-6 species seen
by 3 other Cayuga Bird Club members who I ran into out there.

August is a great month to go birding.  Arguably, more birds now than at
any other time of year because of all the successful breeding.  Plus, lots
of post-breeding movements of birds into places where they can find food.
Fall migration is definitely underway for some species, especially
shorebirds.  I did not know that Coleman Lake had been partially drained to
repair the dike at the outlet.  Lots of good shorebird habitat there.  I
saw a pretty big number of Solitary Sandpipers, along with Spotted
Sandpipers, Killdeer, and a couple flocks of Least Sandpipers.

Go birding!



Jody W. Enck, PhD
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[cayugabirds-l] Florida birds in NY

[Donna Lee Scott]

Hi Cayuga birders-

Wow, in a day & a 1/2 we have 3 different sp. of birds around here in NY that I 
last saw in South Florida in early March 2020 -
Imm. Little Blue Heron,
Black Vulture (they were trying to eat the black rubber off all the cars in the 
parking lot at the Everglades!),

& Swallow-tailed Kites (1 of which was seen sitting on a log near the surf on 
beach at Captiva Island in late Feb. Right after its rest in log, I saw it fly 
towards mainland.
 I guessed that it might have just flown in from across the Gulf of Mexico on 
its migration, which was happening right then, & found this big log to rest on!
I don’t ever see them at the beach in Fla, plus at this manicured beach, washed 
up trees are usually quickly taken away)!

Donna Scott
Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Morning birds/bear

[Donna Lee Scott]

Scarlet tanager singing unseen in a tree. Rose breasted grosbeak, lots of B 
Orioles, (3 nests that I know of) here.
for the first time I remember, a juvenile gray-headed Red bellied woodpecker 
coming with parent to suet. Young one has learn to eat on the suet cage by 
itself.

Cat birds & orioles eating jars full of jelly. I hope they don’t get cavities 
w/ all that sugar. Flying squirrels & chipmunks eating jelly too.

Reported: small bear (yearling?) trying to pull down bird feeders in west hill 
area of ithaca. Seen by a few people.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[Peter Saracino]

Very interesting!
Thank you Anne.
Yeah - these redwings around my house are losing head feathers NOW - and
not post-breeding.
Pete Sar

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:01 PM  wrote:

> I will just offer the observation made several times while studying
> nesting redwinged blabkbirds at the Cornell ponds that no males arrived
> with bald heads but quite a few
> Showed missing patches during EARLy breeding season while disputes were
> common. At least once a fully feathered banded male had a down and out
> fight, flew off but was back trying to retake his territory the next
> day...with a bald spot.
>
> Whatever other explanations may pertain, male-male fights contribute I
> feel sure.
> Balding blue jays show up after breeding during post-juvenile and post
> breeding molts, I agree. Have seen. Not just their heads look ratty.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Peter Saracino 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks!
> Pete Saracino
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 9:27 AM Tim Gallagher  wrote:
>
>> Here's a link to a piece they ran a few years ago on the Lab of
>> Ornithology website:
>> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/
>>
>> <https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
>> I have a bald bird at my feeder. Is it sick? - All About Birds
>> <https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
>> We receive many inquiries about bald birds, especially Blue Jays and
>> Northern Cardinals. In late summer and fall, when a bird molts, it usually
>> grows and replaces its feathers gradually, but occasionally a bird loses
>> all the feathers on its head at once. This is particularly true of Blue
>> Jays, m ...
>> www.allaboutbirds.org
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* bounce-124627147-10557...@list.cornell.edu <
>> bounce-124627147-10557...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Peter Saracino <
>> petersarac...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:58 PM
>> *To:* Linda Clark Benedict 
>> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Must be so m.j e as re molting non-essential
>> feathers?
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:37 PM Linda Clark Benedict 
>> wrote:
>>
>> We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM Peter Saracino 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks.
>> Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that
>> was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some
>> of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of
>> their non-flight feathers at this time of year?
>> Thanks for the help.
>> Pete Sar
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[anneb . clark]

I will just offer the observation made several times while studying nesting 
redwinged blabkbirds at the Cornell ponds that no males arrived with bald heads 
but quite a few
Showed missing patches during EARLy breeding season while disputes were common. 
At least once a fully feathered banded male had a down and out fight, flew off 
but was back trying to retake his territory the next day...with a bald spot. 

Whatever other explanations may pertain, male-male fights contribute I feel 
sure.  
Balding blue jays show up after breeding during post-juvenile and post breeding 
molts, I agree. Have seen. Not just their heads look ratty. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Peter Saracino  wrote:
> 
> Thanks! 
> Pete Saracino
> 
>> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 9:27 AM Tim Gallagher  wrote:
>> Here's a link to a piece they ran a few years ago on the Lab of Ornithology 
>> website: 
>> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/
>> 
>> I have a bald bird at my feeder. Is it sick? - All About Birds
>> We receive many inquiries about bald birds, especially Blue Jays and 
>> Northern Cardinals. In late summer and fall, when a bird molts, it usually 
>> grows and replaces its feathers gradually, but occasionally a bird loses all 
>> the feathers on its head at once. This is particularly true of Blue Jays, m 
>> ...
>> www.allaboutbirds.org
>> 
>> 
>> From: bounce-124627147-10557...@list.cornell.edu 
>>  on behalf of Peter Saracino 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:58 PM
>> To: Linda Clark Benedict 
>> Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question
>>  
>> Thanks for the info. Must be so m.j e as re molting non-essential feathers?
>> 
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:37 PM Linda Clark Benedict  
>> wrote:
>> We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.
>> 
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM Peter Saracino  wrote:
>> Hi folks.
>> Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that 
>> was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some 
>> of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of their 
>> non-flight feathers at this time of year?
>> Thanks for the help.
>> Pete Sar
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[Peter Saracino]

Thanks!
Pete Saracino

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 9:27 AM Tim Gallagher  wrote:

> Here's a link to a piece they ran a few years ago on the Lab of
> Ornithology website:
> https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/
>
> <https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
> I have a bald bird at my feeder. Is it sick? - All About Birds
> <https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
> We receive many inquiries about bald birds, especially Blue Jays and
> Northern Cardinals. In late summer and fall, when a bird molts, it usually
> grows and replaces its feathers gradually, but occasionally a bird loses
> all the feathers on its head at once. This is particularly true of Blue
> Jays, m ...
> www.allaboutbirds.org
>
>
> --
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> bounce-124627147-10557...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Peter Saracino <
> petersarac...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:58 PM
> *To:* Linda Clark Benedict 
> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question
>
> Thanks for the info. Must be so m.j e as re molting non-essential feathers?
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:37 PM Linda Clark Benedict 
> wrote:
>
> We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM Peter Saracino 
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
> Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that
> was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some
> of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of
> their non-flight feathers at this time of year?
> Thanks for the help.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[Tim Gallagher]

Here's a link to a piece they ran a few years ago on the Lab of Ornithology 
website: 
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/
[https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/norcarBald_RohiniMehta_2_pre12-539x500.jpg]<https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
I have a bald bird at my feeder. Is it sick? - All About 
Birds<https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/i-have-a-bald-bird-at-my-feeder-is-it-sick/>
We receive many inquiries about bald birds, especially Blue Jays and Northern 
Cardinals. In late summer and fall, when a bird molts, it usually grows and 
replaces its feathers gradually, but occasionally a bird loses all the feathers 
on its head at once. This is particularly true of Blue Jays, m ...
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

Thanks for the info. Must be so m.j e as re molting non-essential feathers?

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:37 PM Linda Clark Benedict 
mailto:lbenedic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.

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mailto:petersarac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks.
Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that was 
nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some of the 
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non-flight feathers at this time of year?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[Peter Saracino]

Thanks for the info. Must be so m.j e as re molting non-essential feathers?

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:37 PM Linda Clark Benedict 
wrote:

> We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 3:35 PM Peter Saracino 
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>> Hi folks.
>> Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that
>> was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some
>> of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of
>> their non-flight feathers at this time of year?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] molting birds question

[Linda Clark Benedict]

We had a bald rose-breasted grosbeak at our feeder.

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> Hi folks.
> Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that
> was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some
> of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of
> their non-flight feathers at this time of year?
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[Peter Saracino]

Hi folks.
Recently I have seen one "bald" redwing on a tray feeder and another that
was nearly bald. Now I see what appears to be an adult Oriole "losing" some
of the black on its head. Is it normal for these birds to molt some of
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dawn birds

[anneb . clark]

FOY oriole just arrived also and a catbird was quietly exploring scrubby places 
outside my window earlier!  The mounting house wren tensions are audible. I 
think another 2 males might be on site. Look like bees chasing. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
> 
> FOY baltimore orioles & catbird singing! Oriole sitting in sun atop a tall 
> tree. What a gorgeous spring sight!
> Brown thrasher singing across road. 
> Kingfisher chattering by. 
> 
> Lake getting to minor flood stage. 
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> Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Dawn birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

FOY baltimore orioles & catbird singing! Oriole sitting in sun atop a tall 
tree. What a gorgeous spring sight!
Brown thrasher singing across road.
Kingfisher chattering by.

Lake getting to minor flood stage.

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[cayugabirds-l] FOY birds in Newfield

[Laura J. Heisey]

This morning I have my FOY Rose-breasted Grosbeak, House Wren and Blue-headed 
Vireo in the yard and woods-edges.

Hummingbird feeder and oranges are out but not visited yet.

Laura
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[cayugabirds-l] Maine birds for masks

[Laurie Roe]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/757836384/eastern-bluebirdcloudberry-birds-and?ref=shop_home_active_6=1

-In case anyone is sewing masks or knows someone who will make them
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[cayugabirds-l] FOY birds

[Laura Stenzler]

Hi all,
 Today on our property on Hunt Hill Rd.  we had our first of year (FOY) 
chipping and fox sparrows as well as northern flicker. Plus, there has been a 
pair of hooded mergansers on our pond all day. We think the female has chosen 
the owl/duck box that is hanging over our driveway as her nest site. We hope so!
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[cayugabirds-l] Yellow birds

[Bard Prentiss]

The yellow birds are back. Seems early for goldfinches to moult. 
Best,  
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[cayugabirds-l] Black Birds

[Carl Steckler]

They are back. I had a huge flock of Redwings, Grackles and Starlings
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Weird birds

[Gary Kohlenberg]

Some of these lists have been from California :) This has been going on for 
quite some time and I keep thinking we have rarities to chase, but no such luck.
Gary

On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:

 When I first saw one of these lists I thought someone was playing games, and 
I got annoyed. But after seeing several lists from different observers listing 
birds from various parts of the world but nominally all observed in Stewart 
Park, it is clear to me that all these lists are mislabeled due to the same 
innocent error which more likely due to some glitch in the system than to 
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happens and fix the problem, I see no point in getting mad. Instead, it’s fun 
to try to figure out where in the world the list was actually made, based on 
the ranges of the different species. I recognized several bird names from Costa 
Rica on one list, and by going back to the list after the location was 
corrected, I found out I was correct. We should get prizes for how close our 
guesses are.

- - Dave Nutter

On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Candace E. Cornell 
mailto:cec...@gmail.com>> wrote:

sBird lists the New Zealand bird reports as originating from Stewart Park! 
There were also erroneous Osprey sightings a few weeks ago.
Candace

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:50 PM Carol Keeler 
mailto:carolk...@adelphia.net>> wrote:

Why are we getting these weird e bird reports from Tompkins county that have 
birds that aren’t found here?  It makes a mockery of e bird reports.
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[Dave Nutter]

When I first saw one of these lists I thought someone was playing games, and I 
got annoyed. But after seeing several lists from different observers listing 
birds from various parts of the world but nominally all observed in Stewart 
Park, it is clear to me that all these lists are mislabeled due to the same 
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the ranges of the different species. I recognized several bird names from Costa 
Rica on one list, and by going back to the list after the location was 
corrected, I found out I was correct. We should get prizes for how close our 
guesses are.

- - Dave Nutter

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Candace E. Cornell  wrote:
> 
> sBird lists the New Zealand bird reports as originating from Stewart Park! 
> There were also erroneous Osprey sightings a few weeks ago.
> Candace
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:50 PM Carol Keeler  wrote:
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[Candace E. Cornell]

sBird lists the New Zealand bird reports as originating from Stewart Park!
There were also erroneous Osprey sightings a few weeks ago.
Candace

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Deb Grantham]

As this article says, it's a survival food -- poor people learned to eat it and 
like it. Lots of good food and cooking originates that way.

Deb


-Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Magnus Fiskesjo
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:30 AM
To: Stanley Scharf ; Regi Teasley 

Cc: darlingtonbets ; Maryfaith Miller 
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bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)


Looking up a picture of American pokeweed, I am surprised to see on Wikipedia 
it is the same as poke sallet, a k a poke salad, which is a food, that has even 
been described as a "Long-Standing Staple" food for humans, esp. in the US 
South, https://www.saveur.com/poke-sallet
... and Tony Joe White's song “Polk Salad Annie,” covered by Elvis, turns on 
the gathering, cooking, eating, and sucking on leftovers, of this same "poke 
salad." (The song seems to suggest it grows in places where alligators thrive). 

--
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Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University McGraw 
Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
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Affiliations at Cornell University, WWW:
Anthropology Department, anthropology.cornell.edu/faculty/ Southeast Asia 
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East Asia Program (EAP), eap.einaudi.cornell.edu/faculty_directory
CIAMS (Archaeology), ciams.cornell.edu/people/ Cornell Institute for Public 
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From: bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Stanley Scharf 
[stanley.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley
Cc: darlingtonbets; Maryfaith Miller; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738 
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he concluded a 
diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that all men should be equal 
under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible containing a bladder of blood-red  
'Pokeberry juice', which spattered over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay


On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John 
>> Kingsbury, about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from 
>> Cornell and was lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. 
>> College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous 
>> plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying 
>> pokeweed, and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like 
>> symptoms. (I don't know what happened after that. Did they recover, 
>> once they stopped handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said 
>> that the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it 
>> should be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, 
>> handling or eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are 
>> fine for birds and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, 
>> interesting plant. Just don't eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> ---- Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , 
>> bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye 
>> wool an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, 
>> harvested, crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full 
>> of wool roving and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which 
>> plants are deadly poisonous. I have taught them a lot about 
>> mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying angel, jack 
>> o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having this 
>> knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow and 
>> love to inform people about them.
>>
>

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Deb Grantham]

Fascinating!


-Original Message-
From: bounce-124056725-83565...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Stanley Scharf
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley 
Cc: darlingtonbets ; Maryfaith Miller 
; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738 
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he concluded a 
diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that all men should be equal 
under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible containing a bladder of blood-red  
'Pokeberry juice', which spattered over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay









On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John 
>> Kingsbury, about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from 
>> Cornell and was lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. 
>> College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous 
>> plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying 
>> pokeweed, and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like 
>> symptoms. (I don't know what happened after that. Did they recover, 
>> once they stopped handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said 
>> that the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it 
>> should be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, 
>> handling or eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are 
>> fine for birds and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, 
>> interesting plant. Just don't eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , 
>> bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye 
>> wool an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, 
>> harvested, crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full 
>> of wool roving and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which 
>> plants are deadly poisonous. I have taught them a lot about 
>> mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying angel, jack 
>> o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having this 
>> knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow and 
>> love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird 
>> behavior...I'd love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin 
>> aggression if anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We 
>>> didn’t use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on 
>>>> keeping these plants?
>>>>
>>>> Regi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
>>>> Henry David Thoreau
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes 
>>>>> foraging on my productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves 
>>>>> AND chasing each other hard and long.  More athletic long chases 
>>>>> than I am used to associating with robins.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched 
>>>>> some head lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Magnus Fiskesjo]

Looking up a picture of American pokeweed, I am surprised to see on Wikipedia 
it is the same as poke sallet, a k a poke salad, which is a food, that has even 
been described as a "Long-Standing Staple" food for humans, esp. in the US 
South, https://www.saveur.com/poke-sallet
... and Tony Joe White's song “Polk Salad Annie,” covered by Elvis, turns on 
the gathering, cooking, eating, and sucking on leftovers, of this same "poke 
salad." (The song seems to suggest it grows in places where alligators thrive). 

--
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Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University
McGraw Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
E-mail: magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu, or: n...@cornell.edu

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From: bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Stanley Scharf 
[stanley.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley
Cc: darlingtonbets; Maryfaith Miller; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he
concluded a diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that
all men should be equal under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible
containing a bladder of blood-red  'Pokeberry juice', which spattered
over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay


On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury,
>> about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was
>> lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of
>> "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying pokeweed,
>> and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't
>> know what happened after that. Did they recover, once they stopped
>> handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said that
>> the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it should
>> be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling or
>> eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds
>> and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't
>> eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> ---- Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com,
>> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool
>> an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested,
>> crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving
>> and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly
>> poisonous. I have taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can
>> identify a destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and
>> children love having this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed
>> plants are at Lime Hollow and love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd
>> love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if
>> anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t
>>> use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
&

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Stanley Scharf]

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he
concluded a diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that
all men should be equal under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible
containing a bladder of blood-red  'Pokeberry juice', which spattered
over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay









On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury,
>> about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was
>> lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of
>> "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying pokeweed,
>> and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't
>> know what happened after that. Did they recover, once they stopped
>> handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said that
>> the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it should
>> be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling or
>> eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds
>> and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't
>> eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com,
>> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool
>> an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested,
>> crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving
>> and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly
>> poisonous. I have taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can
>> identify a destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and
>> children love having this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed
>> plants are at Lime Hollow and love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd
>> love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if
>> anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t
>>> use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping
>>>> these plants?
>>>>
>>>> Regi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
>>>> Henry David Thoreau
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on
>>>>> my productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each
>>>>> other hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to
>>>>> associating with robins.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some
>>>>> head lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> --
>>>>>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Regi Teasley]

Thank you for this information.  

Regi


What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  Henry 
David Thoreau

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets  wrote:
> 
> 
> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury, about 
> pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was lecturer in 
> phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an 
> excellent book on poisonous plants. 
> 
> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying pokeweed, 
> and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't know 
> what happened after that. Did they recover, once they stopped handling it?)  
> 
> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said that 
> the berries were the least toxic part of the plant. 
> 
> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it should be 
> destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling or eating 
> it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds and other 
> animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't eat it or 
> handle it without gloves.
> Betsy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Maryfaith Miller 
> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
> Cc: Regi Teasley , bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, 
> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
> 
> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool an 
> intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested, crushed, 
> boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving and pokeweed 
> berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly poisonous. I have 
> taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying 
> angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having 
> this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow 
> and love to inform people about them.
> 
>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd love 
> to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if anyone knows 
> more about that.
> Maryfaith Decker Miller
> 
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t 
>> use 3 waters either, although drained it. 
>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic. Or 
>> try lambs quarters. 
>> Anne 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>> 
>>> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping 
>>> these plants?
>>> 
>>> Regi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  
>>> Henry David Thoreau
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
>>>> productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other 
>>>> hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating 
>>>> with robins. 
>>>> 
>>>> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some head 
>>>> lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed. 
>>>> 
>>>> Anne 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> --
>>>> 
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>>>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html
>>>> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Chris R. Pelkie]

Agreed! I have some pokeweed growing behind the shed, no intention of removing 
(or tasting) it. I went to wiki initially to see if the toxins were 
intoxicating Anne’s robins but there’s no obvious support for that from this 
plant. I have seen robins et al get ripped on late season “raisins” from wild 
cherry so wondered if that was similar.

[Btw, I worked for Dr John many moons ago as a barely passable cook and 
carpenter assistant building the lab on Appledore Island when he was director 
of Isles of Shoals.]

___
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Data Manager; IT Support
Center for Conservation Bioacoustics
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:54, darlingtonbets 
mailto:darlingtonb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

just that people should be cautious in using, handling or eating it.  And many 
plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds and other animals.  Pokeweed 
is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't eat it or handle it without 
gloves.
Betsy

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[darlingtonbets]

A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury, about 
pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was lecturer in 
phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an 
excellent book on poisonous plants. He told me that a group of medical 
researchers who were studying pokeweed, and handling the plant, all developed 
leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't know what happened after that. Did they 
recover, once they stopped handling it?)  He recommended wearing gloves, if 
handling the plant. I think he said that the berries were the least toxic part 
of the plant. Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean 
it should be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling 
or eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds and 
other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't eat it 
or handle it without gloves.BetsySent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Maryfaith Miller 
 Date: 10/26/19  12:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
anneb.cl...@gmail.com Cc: Regi Teasley , 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L  
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!) I have used pokeweed 
berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool an intensely beautiful 
shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested, crushed, boiled over a campfire 
and stirred the pot full of wool roving and pokeweed berries. My students love 
knowing which plants are deadly poisonous. I have taught them a lot about 
mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, 
etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having this knowledge. They know 
where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow and love to inform people 
about them. But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird 
behavior...I'd love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin 
aggression if anyone knows more about that.Maryfaith Decker MillerOn Sat, Oct 
26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:And I am living proof that 
eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t use 3 waters either, although 
drained it. But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less 
panic. Or try lambs quarters. Anne Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 
AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:I understand Pokeweed is poisonous 
to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping these plants?RegiWhat good is a house if 
you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  Henry David ThoreauOn Oct 26, 
2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:This morning I have a large 
number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my productive pokeweed berries and 
scratching leaves AND chasing each other hard and long.  More athletic long 
chases than I am used to associating with robins. They are not just chasing 
around the berries although I watched some head lowered face offs ( before a 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Maryfaith Miller]

I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool an
intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested, crushed,
boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving and pokeweed
berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly poisonous. I have
taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can identify a
destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children
love having this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at
Lime Hollow and love to inform people about them.

 But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd
love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if anyone
knows more about that.
Maryfaith Decker Miller

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:

> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t
> use 3 waters either, although drained it.
> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
> Or try lambs quarters.
> Anne
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
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> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping
> these plants?
>
> Regi
>
>
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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my
> productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other
> hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating
> with robins.
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[anneb . clark]

And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t use 3 
waters either, although drained it. 
But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic. Or 
try lambs quarters. 
Anne 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> 
> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping these 
> plants?
> 
> Regi
> 
> 
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  
> Henry David Thoreau
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
>> productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other 
>> hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating with 
>> robins. 
>> 
>> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some head 
>> lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed. 
>> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[anneb . clark]

Yup everyone, I am fully aware of the toxicity of pokeweed and allow a nice big 
plant to grow up where I can see it fruit every year without any problems. 

There are many berries toxic to humans out there. And toxic plants. But they 
feed birds and other wildlife. Pokeweed berries are especially used by birds 
around this time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> 
> I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping these 
> plants?
> 
> Regi
> 
> 
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  
> Henry David Thoreau
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
>> productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other 
>> hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating with 
>> robins. 
>> 
>> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some head 
>> lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed. 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Regi Teasley]

I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping these 
plants?

Regi


What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?  Henry 
David Thoreau

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
> productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other hard 
> and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating with 
> robins. 
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Chris R. Pelkie]

For the record, don’t try this at home! Poke berries are very toxic to humans 
and many other mammals though some foxes, mice,etc are resistant, as are many 
songbirds that distribute the seeds after ingestion. Make sure your kids do NOT 
ingest these.
Poke leaves are made edible only after three separate boilings in fresh water. 
See wiki for details.

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Center for Conservation Bioacoustics
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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Ithaca, NY 14850
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 09:00, 
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mailto:anneb.cl...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other hard 
and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating with robins.

They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some head 
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[cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[anneb . clark]

This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on my 
productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each other hard 
and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to associating with robins. 

They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some head 
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[cayugabirds-l] Forest birds in Shindagin Hollow

[Jody Enck]

Hi All,
The birds are almost as thick as the gnats in Shindaggin Hollow State
Forest.  I was there Thursday morning and again today.  I observed about 30
species total over the two days, including a substantial number of recently
fledged birds.  Got to see my two target species -- Mourning Warbler on
Thursday, and Canada Warbler today.  And, saw a pair of Broad-winged Hawks.

If you want to see these species and more with the Cayuga Bird Club next
February on our trip to Costa Rica, please check out the club website for
more information.  Holbrook travel is highlighting our trip in the
e-newsletter this month.

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[cayugabirds-l] New birds

[Laura Stenzler]

New birds on our property today: common yellowthroat, ovenbird, yellow warbler 
and black-throated green warbler. 
Hunt Hill Rd, Dryden. 
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[cayugabirds-l] Returning birds

[Ken Haas]

Yesterday, here at my Alder Pond home outside Mecklenberg, I had FOY Baltimore 
Oriole, and this morning I saw FOY Yellow Warbler, FOY Rose-breasted Grosbeak 
and FOY Ovenbird. Four Wood Thrushes were singing in the woods. They just 
returned a couple of days ago. It’s like the song says, “Spring is bustin’ out 
all over”.

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[cayugabirds-l] FOY birds

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Had my FOY Wood Thrush this morning (at least 2 individuals) and FOY Oven
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[cayugabirds-l] New birds for my new yard list

[Annette Nadeau]

Since this is my first spring in Trumansburg since I left Brooktondale, I'm
starting a new yard list.

Just had a RED-SHOULDERED HAWK "making lazy circles in the sky" as it
headed NW.

As I watchef the hawk, my FOY HOUSE WREN started singing.

It's like beginning birding all over again, though I miss my "country"
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Feeder birds

[Regi Teasley]

Why isn’t there much wild food?

Thanks,
Regi



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> food. WOW was he right. In the last few days my feeders in Dryden village 
> have been visited by countless   Chickadees tufted tit mice. Downey and Harry 
> wood peckers small flocks of pine Siskins and. Gold finches. Several each of 
> white and red breasted nuthatches pairs of Carolina wren bousefinch and red 
> belly woodpeckers several morning doves and probably a lot more that slips my 
> mind. Some year. 
> Waiting for evening and blue grosbeaks. 
> 
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Two Fridays ago Matt Young 
stoped by for a visit. In the course of our chatting he mentioned that unlike 
last year this’ll be a good year for feeder birds since there isn’t much wild 
food. WOW was he right. In the last few days my feeders in Dryden village have 
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peckers small flocks of pine Siskins and. Gold finches. Several each of white 
and red breasted nuthatches pairs of Carolina wren bousefinch and red belly 
woodpeckers several morning doves and probably a lot more that slips my mind. 
Some year. 
Waiting for evening and blue grosbeaks. 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Missing birds

[Geo Kloppel]

Hi Cathy,

Hmmm... I see a lot of barn swallows around number 400 Gunderman right now, so 
it seems that what you’re experiencing is not a neighborhood-wide phenomenon.

Also see some House Sparrows up here, and the ubiquitous Starlings. Competitors 
for nest boxes.

-Geo

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Cathy Darrow  wrote:
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> Prompted by the Swallow related posts a few days ago, I want to add the 
> complete lack of tree swallows and barn swallows at our house. This is in 
> Danby, Gunderman and Jersey Hill Road where there is lots of open fields that 
> hay is the crop. There is no spraying just spreading of lime and fertilizer. 
> This spring there were a few barn swallows which appeared to be looking for 
> the usual nesting places but then they were seen no more. And the numbers 
> have been decreasing for a few years. 
> Now the tree swallows, 3 or 4 showed up and two were seen working around 
> their usual nest box for a few days, when we found one dead inside the box 
> and none others seen since. I say the rest were probably smart but we are 
> feeling sad cause I feel they have been the major insect controller for our 
> yard over the many years when there have been many, many tree swallows over 
> and around our pond. Last year the numbers were down to a dozen maybe. 
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[cayugabirds-l] Missing birds

[Cathy Darrow]

Prompted by the Swallow related posts a few days ago, I want to add the 
complete lack of tree swallows and barn swallows at our house. This is in 
Danby, Gunderman and Jersey Hill Road where there is lots of open fields that 
hay is the crop. There is no spraying just spreading of lime and fertilizer. 
This spring there were a few barn swallows which appeared to be looking for the 
usual nesting places but then they were seen no more. And the numbers have been 
decreasing for a few years. 
Now the tree swallows, 3 or 4 showed up and two were seen working around their 
usual nest box for a few days, when we found one dead inside the box and none 
others seen since. I say the rest were probably smart but we are feeling sad 
cause I feel they have been the major insect controller for our yard over the 
many years when there have been many, many tree swallows over and around our 
pond. Last year the numbers were down to a dozen maybe. 
Hoping for something to turn around. 
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[cayugabirds-l] Squirrels, birds and a previous thread

[AB Clark]

Sat and watched a white pine and its neighboring small maple, as the sun 
disappeared.  At least three little phantom shapes were working the trees, 
especially the pine.  One or more was/were  red squirrels and I think one was a 
chipmunk but maybe all were red squirrels (young?  to be so close together?).  
In any case, they did a very thorough job of running along branches to the 
tips, including the one where a robin built in May and apparently lost the nest 
contents soon thereafter.  The nest is now on the ground.  

That they find (and eat) bird nest contents is no accident…these little guys 
looked practiced and spatially efficient.

Anne

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[cayugabirds-l] Morning birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Yellow Warbler, Gray Catbirds, male B Oriole, & Chipping & White Throated 
Sparrows, as well as a bunch of female RW Blackbirds in yard w usual males & 
Brown headed Cowbirds. Saw female Rose Breasted Grosbeak yesterday afternoon.
Also C. Loons & DC Cormorants on lake.

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[cayugabirds-l] Yard birds

[Geo Kloppel]

West Danby enjoyed a bright sunrise. There was hardly a cloud in the sky for a 
short period this morning. I had Fox Sparrows singing from all directions, a 
couple of Hermit Thrushes drinking or bathing or foraging at the pond outlet, 
Wood Ducks on the pond, a Brown Thrasher rummaging under the shrubs, c. 50 
Juncos at the feeders, a lone Pine Siskin, a few Golden-crowned Kinglets, a 
Phoebe, etcetera.

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[cayugabirds-l] New birds

[Carol Keeler]

Well, the Chipping Sparrows finally made it to Auburn.  I had two this morning. 
I still have American Tree Sparrows and Juncos.  For the second time ever I had 
a Fox Sparrow.  I’ve been watching for both birds.  I’ve had quite a few Song 
Sparrows for quite awhile.  I also have three male Purple Finches, plus one 
female that have become regulars at the feeders.
Yesterday, the Osprey from the cell phone tower down the street on rt. 20 flew 
over.  It’s back!  I also nearly got run over by a Cooper’s Hawk chasing a 
grackle.  I was out filling the feeders.  I don’t think the grackle got caught. 
 I could feel them zoom by.  


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[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma birds today

[psaracin]

 Some cool birds observed today (4/10/18) during part one of weekly survey of 
the Montezuma Refuge:1 Common Moorehen on Main Pool4 Great Egrets at Tschache 
Pool1 Greater Yellowlegs at Seneca FlatsHundreds of tree swallows perched on 
marsh vegetation at May's Point Pool.Migration IS underway!!Jackie BakerPete 
Saracino.
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[cayugabirds-l] snow birds

[Asher Hockett]

Lots of activity here in South Danby this morning: scads of GOFI, quite a
few Pine Siskins, juncos, various woodpeckers including our regular female
Pileated, a few Robins calling, Mourning Doves, and Bluejays, one imitating
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[cayugabirds-l] feeder birds

[Asher Hockett]

Continuing at our feeders are a small flock of Purple Finches, both sexes,
consuming black oil sunflower seeds, and a half dozen Pine Siskins on the
niger socks. This in addition to the goldfinches and juncos and doves in
profusion along with a few chickadees, nuthatches, and titmice.

Red-bellied, downy, hairy, and a lone female Pileated Woodpecker are eating
suet. The neighborhood ravens are getting talkative.

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[cayugabirds-l] feeder birds

[Bard Prentiss]

Hi all,
I have a mature white throated sparrow , perhaps 2 or  3  almost constantly at 
my feeder . Last year an immature one spent the winter with me. Also unusual 
for me I have several immature common grackles eating me out of house and home.

Bard


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[cayugabirds-l] Small birds

[Donna Lee Scott]

Little Birds Sale !

Proceeds donated to Cornell Lab of Ornithology

At Lifelong Crafts Gala, 119 W. Court St., Ithaca
In back of old library, just west of Cayuga St.

Fri. Nov. 17, 10 - 4 / Sat. Nov. 18, 10 - 12:30

100s of little birds:
rare, antique, silver, bone, brass, glass, pewter, ceramic, tiny, 
one-of-a-kind, cutsie, unusual.

Great gifts - a bird for everyone!

Seller: Donna Scott

Donna L. Scott
535 Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY 14882
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