Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Dave Nutter
I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being 
immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90  NYS-414, near Magee 
at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic on 
NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, 
and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other 
roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin 
will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or any 
large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex have to 
come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be okay for 
traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or road 
expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and 
after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution 
will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the interchange 
on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of dead trees with 
a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here and the Montezuma 
Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please chime in if you see 
other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal 
awhile ago, and it was hard to track down´╗┐.

--Dave Nutter


On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington darlingtonb...@gmail.com wrote:

 And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
 Betsy

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.eduwrote:

 My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please 
 weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light 
 pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the 
 impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this 
 project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, 
 but never heard back.

 Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this 
 is not ok too discuss here.

 Karen
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Kimberly Sucy
The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out the risk 
of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause for concern.   
It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards one side of the issue 
which one would expect from the site name!).

-kimberly


On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:

 I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being 
 immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90  NYS-414, near 
 Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic 
 on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on 
 NYS-31, and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the 
 other roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake 
 Basin will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or 
 any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex 
 have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be 
 okay for traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or 
 road expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, 
 and after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light 
 pollution will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the 
 interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of 
 dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here 
 and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please 
 chime in if you see other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one 
 map of the proposal awhile ago, and it was hard to track down. 
 --Dave Nutter
 
 On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington darlingtonb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
 Betsy
 
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.eduwrote:
 My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please 
 weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light 
 pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the 
 impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this 
 project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, 
 but never heard back.
 
 Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is 
 not ok too discuss here.
 
 Karen
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin
The casino is likely to be the anchor for other major development in the 
immediate area.  One $100,000,000 project already has been presented to 
the Planning Board, to be located a little further west on Rte 318, and 
proposing hundreds of thousands of sq feet of retail  commercial 
space on a 155 acre parcel.  Last week NYS gave Seneca County a $750,000 
grant to put in a sewer system along Rte 318, extending up to the 
Premium Outlets site, removing one major hurdle to further development.

Alicia


On 12/21/2014 12:32 PM, Kimberly Sucy wrote:
 The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out 
 the risk of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause 
 for concern.   It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards 
 one side of the issue which one would expect from the site name!).

 -kimberly


 On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:

 I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway 
 by being immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90  
 NYS-414, near Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would 
 expect additional traffic on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east 
 NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, and to the south on 
 NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other roads around 
 the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin will 
 not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or 
 any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the 
 complex have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local 
 increase. We might be okay for traffic as long as there are no new 
 roads or road straightenings or road expansions. Maybe it'll be a 
 flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and after construction 
 we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution will be 
 limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the 
 interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp 
 full of dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets 
 commuting between here and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly 
 the the casino site. Please chime in if you see other problems or 
 think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal awhile 
 ago, and it was hard to track down.
 --Dave Nutter

 On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington 
 darlingtonb...@gmail.com mailto:darlingtonb...@gmail.com wrote:

 And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
 Betsy

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.edu 
 mailto:k...@cornell.eduwrote:

 My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds
 (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns
 about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just
 approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may
 generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed,
 I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back.

 Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris
 says this is not ok too discuss here.

 Karen

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[cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Karen Edelstein
My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
but never heard back.

Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is
not ok too discuss here.

Karen

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Betsy Darlington
And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
Betsy

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.edu wrote:

 My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
 weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
 pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
 impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
 project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
 but never heard back.

 Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is
 not ok too discuss here.

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