Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-29 Thread Linda Orkin
Thanks Mike and Dave. Mike, that chart is very illuminating. I had no idea 
there were that many species. Amber seems a good way to describe what I saw as 
red.  It seems a monumental brain task to sort out all the flashing going on 
but just having these different parameters in mind would help you to see 
better. 

Linda

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On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Linda,
 
 In order for a Doppler shift to noticeably change the color of light that 
 much, the firefly would have to be traveling thousands of miles an hour!  It 
 may be that what you are seeing are multiple species of firefly.  
 
 The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information 
 about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern.
 
 Types Of Fireflies
 
 Flash Chart
 
 Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly 
 flashes)
 
 
 These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, 
 which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various 
 firefly species.
 
 -Mike
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. 
 Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they 
 really like that?
 
 Linda
 
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-29 Thread Tom Fernandes
Think it is a good year for fireflies!.  Jerseybirds had a post of a great 
display last week down in NJ. I also had one of the best displays in years in 
my yard in McGraw.

Tom Fernandes
 McGraw.NY
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:28 AM
To: Mike Pitzrick 
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

Thanks Mike and Dave. Mike, that chart is very illuminating. I had no idea 
there were that many species. Amber seems a good way to describe what I saw as 
red.  It seems a monumental brain task to sort out all the flashing going on 
but just having these different parameters in mind would help you to see 
better. 

Linda

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi Linda,


  In order for a Doppler shift to noticeably change the color of light that 
much, the firefly would have to be traveling thousands of miles an hour!  It 
may be that what you are seeing are multiple species of firefly.  


  The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information 
about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern.

  Types Of Fireflies


  Flash Chart


  Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly 
flashes)



  These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, 
which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various 
firefly species.

  -Mike 



  On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:

Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different 
colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are 
they really like that?

Linda



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-29 Thread Dave Nutter
That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board, a 
´╗┐participant (whose name  email I have omitted here) asked Linda's question, 
and the project leader replied:

In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three flashes 
and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked RED to me. 
Is that possible?
.:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow, yellow 
green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red firefly. But 
that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the way people may 
see colors differently or environmental conditions, you won't see a red firefly.

* * *
I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a lot 
of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't learned to 
discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined time of a 
Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe I'll have more 
legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the night.

--Dave Nutter


On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information 
 about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern.

 Types Of Fireflies

 Flash Chart

 Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly 
 flashes)


 These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, 
 which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various 
 firefly species.

 -Mike


 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different 
 colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are 
 they really like that?

 Linda



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-29 Thread Mike Pitzrick
Hi Dave,

People do perceive colors differently due to both biological capacity and
training.  This is an area of active research.

Regarding biological capacity, most people have three types of color
receptors in their eyes, each of which is most sensitive to a single color:
red, green, or blue.  Some people, mostly male, are completely or partially
color blind, meaning that one or more types of color receptor are partially
or completely disabled color receptors, resulting in diminished capacity to
discriminate differences in color.

Recently it was discovered that some females have four types of color
receptors in their eyes, giving them the potential to distinguish more
colors than is usual in humans.  This article in Discover magazine, Humans
with Super Human Vision
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision,
explains.

If you are interested in testing your ability to discriminate colors, try
out this Color Test http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge.  If
you'd like to see if you are color blind, check out Free Colorblindness Test
http://www.colour-blindness.com/colour-blindness-tests/.  Note that these
online tests are not 100% reliable, due to variation in computer monitors.

By the way, this discussion is pretty far afield from the usual content of
CAYUGABIRDS-L, and I'm surprised no one has complained yet.  People who
would enjoy participating in a similar email list with broader scope may be
interested in NATURAL-HISTORY-L.  Instructions for joining a Cornell email
list can be found in Join an E-list
http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/elist/howto/user/join.cfm.

-Mike


On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:

 That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board,
 a participant (whose name  email I have omitted here) asked Linda's
 question, and the project leader replied:

 In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three
 flashes and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked
 RED to me. Is that possible?
 .:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow,
 yellow green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red
 firefly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the
 way people may see colors differently or environmental conditions, you
 won't see a red firefly.

 * * *
 I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a
 lot of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't
 learned to discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined
 time of a Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe
 I'll have more legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the
 night.

 --Dave Nutter


 On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with
 information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and
 pattern.

 Types Of Fireflies
 https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/types_of_fireflies

 Flash Chart https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/flash_chart

 Virtual Habitat https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/virtual_habitat
 (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes)


 These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch
 https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/, which is designed to find out
 more about the distribution of the various firefly species.

 -Mike


 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different
 colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or
 are they really like that?

 Linda


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-29 Thread Linda Orkin
On the other hand it could have been s very tiny low-flying plane. 

Linda

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On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:

 That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board, a 
 participant (whose name  email I have omitted here) asked Linda's question, 
 and the project leader replied:
 In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three flashes 
 and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked RED to me. 
 Is that possible?
 .:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow, 
 yellow green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red 
 firefly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the 
 way people may see colors differently or environmental conditions, you won't 
 see a red firefly.
 
 * * * 
 I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a lot 
 of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't learned 
 to discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined time of a 
 Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe I'll have more 
 legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the night.
 --Dave Nutter
 
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with 
 information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and 
 pattern.
 
 Types Of Fireflies
 
 Flash Chart
 
 Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly 
 flashes)
 
 
 These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, 
 which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various 
 firefly species.
 
 -Mike
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. 
 Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they 
 really like that?
 
 Linda
 
 
 
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[cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-28 Thread Anne Clark
It is wild out there...flashing of several kinds, low and high in trees.  Give 
that it is hard to see birds right now, it is well worth a look outside for 
this pre-4th display.

Vic Lamoureux put a similar alert out for Broome, on the Bluewing list.  
Apparently this is THE night so far if you are a firefly.

anne
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-28 Thread Linda Orkin
Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. 
Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they 
really like that?  

Linda 



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 It is wild out there...flashing of several kinds, low and high in trees.  
 Give that it is hard to see birds right now, it is well worth a look outside 
 for this pre-4th display.
 
 Vic Lamoureux put a similar alert out for Broome, on the Bluewing list.  
 Apparently this is THE night so far if you are a firefly.
 
 anne
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight

2014-06-28 Thread Dave Nutter
Some stars look slightly orange or blue, but the fireflies all look green to 
me. I think the red flashes are airplanes. Seriously, I know there are 
different species of fireflies and they use different codes of flashes, but I 
don't know about different colors. I'm guessing they all use the same 
chemistry, so the color would be easiest to stay the same, and that's why they 
use timing. There wouldn't be a noticeable doppler shift for light. Maybe the 
ones seen farther from your center of vision could appear different colors if 
there's a different concentration of receptors for different colors. I know not 
all colors can be seen equally well in peripheral vision. Red is worst.

It is a nice night for fireflies, one of several´╗┐ lately in our yard.

--Dave Nutter


On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. 
 Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they 
 really like that?

 Linda



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 On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is wild out there...flashing of several kinds, low and high in 
 trees. Give that it is hard to see birds right now, it is well worth a look 
 outside for this pre-4th display.

 Vic Lamoureux put a similar alert out for Broome, on the Bluewing 
 list. Apparently this is THE night so far if you are a firefly.

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