Re: [cayugabirds-l] pecking order

2010-02-08 Thread Tom Vawter
This winter, unlike previous ones, we've been besieged by jays.  I've
counted, what I think is probably an extended family of 7 or so all fighting
for control of the one platform feeder and/or the two cylinders in which I
offer sunflower seeds.  The jays seem to be top dogs, and it irks me,
because I know they're just filling their crops and storing seeds somewhere
where they'll forget about later.  I have to fill the feeders that much more
often.  But I do love corvids, and they are fun to watch.

I've noticed that they're not at the very top of the dominance hierarchy,
however. They move aside quickly when the red-bellied lands on the feeder.
Looking at the comparative armament, I don't blame the jays.  We have fewer
hairies, and they interact less frequently with the jays.  The hairies and
the downies do seem to prefer the suet to the seeds, whereas the
red-bellieds take seeds from both the platform and the cylinders frequently.

Tom V

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Marie P Read  wrote:

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> >   Contrary to many bucolic paintings, I have never seen two species
> > feeding together.  Suet is survival.
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> I  have seen (and photographed) Downy and Hairy feeding together (in fact
> it's a photo I've strived for because it shows the difference between the
> two and points out how to tell them apart), but the Downies are definitely
> the more timid of the two.
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] pecking order

2010-02-08 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
That's not the relationship at my suet feeder.  Downies are the bold ones; they 
feed no matter what I do inside and are slow to leave the suet. My Hairies and 
Red-bellies are off lot a shot if they see me inside or if there is any 
disturbance outside.  The Red-breasted Nuthatches, on the other hand, come even 
if I'm standing beside the feeder. They also occasionally come to the feeder 
while I'm filling it.

Kevin
  

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>   Contrary to many bucolic paintings, I have never seen two species
> feeding together.  Suet is survival.

I  have seen (and photographed) Downy and Hairy feeding together (in fact
it's a photo I've strived for because it shows the difference between the
two and points out how to tell them apart), but the Downies are definitely
the more timid of the two.

Marie





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[cayugabirds-l] pecking order

2010-02-08 Thread Barrs
Daily, downy, hairy, and red bellied woodpeckers feast on our suet.   
A pileated pair are rare visitors.


	The pileated woodpeckers definitely dominate the feeder.  When one  
approaches for landing, all else flies.


	The hairy woodpeckers rule on a daily basis, aggressively forcing  
red bellies and downies away.  While the hairy seems unperturbed by  
movement in our house, a shadow on any near window will cause the  
pileated to move to safety.


	Next in the pecking order would be the red bellies.  A hairy will  
push a red belly off the suet, while a red belly will dominate a  
downy.  If our shadows hit the sliding glass door close to the  
feeder, a skittish red belly will abandon his/her meal and head for  
the pine boughs.


	The smaller downy woodpeckers do not fly at our shadows, but are  
chased by larger neighbors.


	The nuthatches are wary, watching from a distance, then walking up  
the tree with the suet feeder is unoccupied.  They are troubled by  
any movement in our house and depart quickly when a woodpecker lands.


	With the timid brown creepers, caution rules.  They stay low, avoid  
the crowds, and glean the droppings of suet.


	Contrary to many bucolic paintings, I have never seen two species  
feeding together.  Suet is survival.  And just what does 'eats like a  
bird' supposed to mean?


susan barr
brooktondale


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