I would not advise playing with Clostridium should that be the cause.
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John and Sue Gregoire
5373 Fitzgerald Rd
Burdett, NY 14818-9626
"Conserve and Create Habitat"
N 42.44307 W 76.75784
On 2020-06-01 12:45, Suan Hsi Yong wrote:
> Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if
Gary, avian botulism is common in migratory ducks. The organism is in
the soil built up by decaying vegetation and marine life. From what I
remember mallards are particularly susceptible. Human feeding junk like
bread may also contribute. It is a paralytic disease and the cause is
ingestion of
Biomedical Sciences, Section of Anatomic Pathology
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Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy
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Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if someone were willing to
retrieve the bodies?
Suan
On Mon
Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if someone were
willing to retrieve the bodies?
Suan
On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:29 AM Gary Kohlenberg wrote:
> Thanks John and Sue,
>
> What would the likelihood of botulism be in your opinion? The issues MNWR
> had were some years ago and I
Thanks John and Sue,
What would the likelihood of botulism be in your opinion? The issues MNWR had
were some years ago and I don’t know how prevalent it is.
Gary
On Jun 1, 2020, at 6:37 AM, "k...@empireaccess.net"
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You folks know that area and the ducks but, as most ducks sleep on
You folks know that area and the ducks but, as most ducks sleep on the
water, the idea of a terrestrial predator doesn't fly. Snappers may
scoop up numerous ducklings and goslings and can attack an adult but not
several. I wouldn't put away the human possibility.
John
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John and Sue Gregoire
31, 2020 2:29 PM
> *To:* Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
> *Cc:* Sandy Podulka ; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
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> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30
>
> I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit.
>
>
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I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit.
As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other
bird dead with head attached and another dying with possible neck issues makes
Are any of you considering a night-time attack when the ducks would have
been asleep & not aware of danger from owl or weasel? I agree with Chris.
Fritzie Bllizzard
>> On May 31, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Just throwing this out there as another
I can understand how a predator can get a bunch
of chickens in a cage, but in the wild, after it
got one, I think the others would fly away. So a
predator getting them all seems unlikely to me.
Am I missing something? Gary's suggestion here makes sense.
Sandy
At 02:29 PM 5/31/2020, Gary
To: Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
Cc: Sandy Podulka ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30
I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit.
As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other
bird dead with head
I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit.
As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other
bird dead with head attached and another dying with possible neck issues makes
the suggestion of botulism by Kevin Cummings and Morgan Hapeman
I would add opossum to the lineup of possible perpetrators..they too
favor heads and will make quick work of your chickens.
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:28 PM Jody Enck wrote:
> Hi Gary and all,
>
> So sorry you came upon this scene. However, it definitely does not sound
> like a shooting
Hi Gary and all,
So sorry you came upon this scene. However, it definitely does not sound
like a shooting incident. As a duck hunter myself, I will say that you
would need to be within 5 or 6 feet (maybe less) in order to take the head
off a duck via a shot. At even 10-12 feet, the shotgun
on a struggling bird. I’m not sure
if we see avian botulism locally though.
Kevin Cummings
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Just throwing this out there as another possibility: weasel or ferret.
This is, as I understand it, classic kill method used by these Mustelids.
They’ve been know to kill off an entire flock of chickens in a night, severing
heads with minimal disruption to the rest of the body.
Thoughts?
Devastating news. Each time I have gone down there I have enjoyed seeing
that group of bachelor mallards. What a sick act.
Gary, will you be contacting the DEC? I want so much to do something but
what can we do? I am gutted.
Melissa
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:07 AM Sandy Podulka wrote:
> That
That is also one of my favorite places!
I have seen 4 male Mallards in that small pond
consistently this spring (but not today, and I guess I now know why).
I have no idea what could kill so many birds in
such an odd way except a hunter, or maybe a group
of hunters--I would think an owl
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