Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread khmo
I would not advise playing with Clostridium should that be the cause. --- John and Sue Gregoire 5373 Fitzgerald Rd Burdett, NY 14818-9626 "Conserve and Create Habitat" N 42.44307 W 76.75784 On 2020-06-01 12:45, Suan Hsi Yong wrote: > Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread khmo
Gary, avian botulism is common in migratory ducks. The organism is in the soil built up by decaying vegetation and marine life. From what I remember mallards are particularly susceptible. Human feeding junk like bread may also contribute. It is a paralytic disease and the cause is ingestion of

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
Biomedical Sciences, Section of Anatomic Pathology From: bounce-124668162-61975...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of Suan Hsi Yong Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:45 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread Andrew David Miller
-124668162-61975...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of Suan Hsi Yong Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:45 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if someone were willing to retrieve the bodies? Suan On Mon

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread Suan Hsi Yong
Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if someone were willing to retrieve the bodies? Suan On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:29 AM Gary Kohlenberg wrote: > Thanks John and Sue, > > What would the likelihood of botulism be in your opinion? The issues MNWR > had were some years ago and I

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
Thanks John and Sue, What would the likelihood of botulism be in your opinion? The issues MNWR had were some years ago and I don’t know how prevalent it is. Gary On Jun 1, 2020, at 6:37 AM, "k...@empireaccess.net" wrote:  You folks know that area and the ducks but, as most ducks sleep on

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-06-01 Thread khmo
You folks know that area and the ducks but, as most ducks sleep on the water, the idea of a terrestrial predator doesn't fly. Snappers may scoop up numerous ducklings and goslings and can attack an adult but not several. I wouldn't put away the human possibility. John --- John and Sue Gregoire

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Peter Saracino
31, 2020 2:29 PM > *To:* Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes > *Cc:* Sandy Podulka ; CAYUGABIRDS-L < > cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 > > I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit. > >

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Glenn Wilson
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit. As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other bird dead with head attached and another dying with possible neck issues makes

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread John and Fritzie Blizzard
Are any of you considering a night-time attack when the ducks would have been asleep & not aware of danger from owl or weasel? I agree with Chris. Fritzie Bllizzard >> On May 31, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes >> wrote: >> >>  Just throwing this out there as another

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Sandy Podulka
I can understand how a predator can get a bunch of chickens in a cage, but in the wild, after it got one, I think the others would fly away. So a predator getting them all seems unlikely to me. Am I missing something? Gary's suggestion here makes sense. Sandy At 02:29 PM 5/31/2020, Gary

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
To: Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Cc: Sandy Podulka ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit. As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other bird dead with head

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit. As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other bird dead with head attached and another dying with possible neck issues makes the suggestion of botulism by Kevin Cummings and Morgan Hapeman

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Wes Blauvelt
I would add opossum to the lineup of possible perpetrators..they too favor heads and will make quick work of your chickens. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:28 PM Jody Enck wrote: > Hi Gary and all, > > So sorry you came upon this scene. However, it definitely does not sound > like a shooting

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Jody Enck
Hi Gary and all, So sorry you came upon this scene. However, it definitely does not sound like a shooting incident. As a duck hunter myself, I will say that you would need to be within 5 or 6 feet (maybe less) in order to take the head off a duck via a shot. At even 10-12 feet, the shotgun

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
on a struggling bird. I’m not sure if we see avian botulism locally though. Kevin Cummings From: bounce-124666711-3494...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:54 AM To: Sandy Podulka Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
Just throwing this out there as another possibility: weasel or ferret. This is, as I understand it, classic kill method used by these Mustelids. They’ve been know to kill off an entire flock of chickens in a night, severing heads with minimal disruption to the rest of the body. Thoughts?

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Melissa Groo
Devastating news. Each time I have gone down there I have enjoyed seeing that group of bachelor mallards. What a sick act. Gary, will you be contacting the DEC? I want so much to do something but what can we do? I am gutted. Melissa On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:07 AM Sandy Podulka wrote: > That

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

2020-05-31 Thread Sandy Podulka
That is also one of my favorite places! I have seen 4 male Mallards in that small pond consistently this spring (but not today, and I guess I now know why). I have no idea what could kill so many birds in such an odd way except a hunter, or maybe a group of hunters--I would think an owl