Re: [cayugabirds-l] ANy resource for hybrid warbler photos?

[Alicia Plotkin]

Yep, that's it!  While I haven't found any quite as weird as the bird I 
saw, the mask definitely seems identical to several, and one shows small 
blotches on the upper breast.

Thanks, Jay!

Alicia



On 5/14/2014 11:59 AM, Jay McGowan wrote:
> Hi Alicia,
> Warbler hybrids do occur, but in general they are less frequent (or at 
> least less frequently reported) than in some other groups, such as 
> ducks. The exception of course is Blue-winged x Golden-winged crosses, 
> which are seen quite frequently, especially in this part of the world. 
> The bird you describe sounds to me like an immature male American 
> Redstart, which look essentially identical to females their first year 
> but often look blotchily transitional their second. I just saw a 
> similar looking bird to what you describe at Sapsucker Woods, mostly 
> like a female redstart but with a small black mask and blotchy black 
> markings on the body. Take a look at some photos on the web and see if 
> that seems reasonable for what you saw.
>
> -Jay
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Alicia Plotkin  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  As often happens after storms in May, we had a bunch of
> warblers in our yard this morning, and I just got in from four
> hours of watching them.  (Since the part of our yard involved is
> only about an acres, this is a lot of time - partly it was birdy,
> partly it's hard to come in when there is anything at all to watch
> or hear.)  One bird definitely was not a standard issue warbler,
> but I don't have a camera so am reduced to looking at other
> people's pictures, although it was extremely cooperative and
> staying in clear view at or a little above eye level for 20
> minutes and may still be there for all I know!  (But my neighbors
> with cameras have all gone to work.)  It seemed redstart-ish in
> many ways - size, feeding patterns, songs variable and generally
> w/i the redstart spectrum - and it also in many ways was like a
> female redstart in overall color.  However, the tail had a bit
> less yellow, it had a single short and very slim buffy wingbar,
> and, most peculiarly, it s head had a greyish cast and also a
> black mask that extended to the eyes. It had the same yellow
> shoulder patches but it also had a fairly large blotch of black on
> it's upper breast that was slightly off center to the left, where
> it met the yellow patch, but didn't extend nearly as far to the
> right; and a much smaller blotch a bit below that and on the
> right, with one or two very short vertical black lines below that
> smaller blotch.  The rest of the chin and breast, all the way to
> the tail, were white.
>
>  I don't really expect anyone to recognize this bird from this
> description, but if you could point me toward a resource with
> photos. I'd be much obliged.
>
>Alicia
>oob in Ovid
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] ANy resource for hybrid warbler photos?

[Jay McGowan]

Hi Alicia,
Warbler hybrids do occur, but in general they are less frequent (or at
least less frequently reported) than in some other groups, such as ducks.
The exception of course is Blue-winged x Golden-winged crosses, which are
seen quite frequently, especially in this part of the world. The bird you
describe sounds to me like an immature male American Redstart, which look
essentially identical to females their first year but often look blotchily
transitional their second. I just saw a similar looking bird to what you
describe at Sapsucker Woods, mostly like a female redstart but with a small
black mask and blotchy black markings on the body. Take a look at some
photos on the web and see if that seems reasonable for what you saw.

-Jay


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Alicia Plotkin  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  As often happens after storms in May, we had a bunch of warblers in
> our yard this morning, and I just got in from four hours of watching them.
>  (Since the part of our yard involved is only about an acres, this is a lot
> of time - partly it was birdy, partly it's hard to come in when there is
> anything at all to watch or hear.)  One bird definitely was not a standard
> issue warbler, but I don't have a camera so am reduced to looking at other
> people's pictures, although it was extremely cooperative and staying in
> clear view at or a little above eye level for 20 minutes and may still be
> there for all I know!  (But my neighbors with cameras have all gone to
> work.)  It seemed redstart-ish in many ways - size, feeding patterns, songs
> variable and generally w/i the redstart spectrum - and it also in many ways
> was like a female redstart in overall color.  However, the tail had a bit
> less yellow, it had a single short and very slim buffy wingbar, and, most
> peculiarly, it s head had a greyish cast and also a black mask that
> extended to the eyes. It had the same yellow shoulder patches but it also
> had a fairly large blotch of black on it's upper breast that was slightly
> off center to the left, where it met the yellow patch, but didn't extend
> nearly as far to the right; and a much smaller blotch a bit below that and
> on the right, with one or two very short vertical black lines below that
> smaller blotch.  The rest of the chin and breast, all the way to the tail,
> were white.
>
>  I don't really expect anyone to recognize this bird from this
> description, but if you could point me toward a resource with photos. I'd
> be much obliged.
>
>Alicia
>oob in Ovid
>
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[cayugabirds-l] ANy resource for hybrid warbler photos?

[Alicia Plotkin]

Hi,

 As often happens after storms in May, we had a bunch of warblers 
in our yard this morning, and I just got in from four hours of watching 
them.  (Since the part of our yard involved is only about an acres, this 
is a lot of time - partly it was birdy, partly it's hard to come in when 
there is anything at all to watch or hear.)  One bird definitely was not 
a standard issue warbler, but I don't have a camera so am reduced to 
looking at other people's pictures, although it was extremely 
cooperative and staying in clear view at or a little above eye level for 
20 minutes and may still be there for all I know!  (But my neighbors 
with cameras have all gone to work.)  It seemed redstart-ish in many 
ways - size, feeding patterns, songs variable and generally w/i the 
redstart spectrum - and it also in many ways was like a female redstart 
in overall color.  However, the tail had a bit less yellow, it had a 
single short and very slim buffy wingbar, and, most peculiarly, it s 
head had a greyish cast and also a black mask that extended to the eyes. 
It had the same yellow shoulder patches but it also had a fairly large 
blotch of black on it's upper breast that was slightly off center to the 
left, where it met the yellow patch, but didn't extend nearly as far to 
the right; and a much smaller blotch a bit below that and on the right, 
with one or two very short vertical black lines below that smaller 
blotch.  The rest of the chin and breast, all the way to the tail, were 
white.


 I don't really expect anyone to recognize this bird from this 
description, but if you could point me toward a resource with photos. 
I'd be much obliged.


   Alicia
   oob in Ovid

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