RE: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-13 Thread Naomi Brewer
I have my Great Great Grandmother’s diaries. She was Carrie Coleman and with 
her son Myron R. Coleman owned and ran the Coleman Hotel at Kidders, N.Y.  She 
wrote that Cayuga Lake completely froze over in 1912. Then She wrote Feb. 4, 
1912 – Cayuga Lake has not frozen over since 1885. She continued:

Feb. 12, 1912 – A great many people are skating and walking on the lake.

  “  14 – At least 200 people were here at Kidders on the ice. Charlie 
White (Sheldrake) is out with his iceboat. Two other iceboats and many skaters 
came over from the other side.

   “ 16 -  Hundreds crossing the lake – Skating and walking. Two students 
were drowned a mile north of King Ferry. 

In the first 10 days of March she wrote of many in iceboats, 
skating and walking back and forth from both sides. Some came from Auburn or 
Ithaca on the train to King Ferry, then skated or rode on iceboats  over the 
lake to Kidders.  On St. Patrick’s Day, after five weeks of wonderful fun on 
the lake the ice broke up and moved north. With much ice moving up and down the 
lake as the wind changed, there were great fields of ice piling up on docks and 
boat houses.

Going back to the year 1885, Carrie Coleman wrote in her diary :

Feb. 17 , 1885 – The lake is frozen over. Myron (son) skated over to King Ferry 
after the mail. Many people skating on the lake.

Mar. 4, - Thawed and injured the skating. No wind for iceboats. 

   “  5,   - Ice is frozen over again. We all went out on the iceboat. Not 
much wind.

“ 6 – The ice  roared and groaned as it froze harder.

“ 7 – A party of young men came from Auburn then over on the iceboat.

“11 – Myron skated over after the mail. Then he and Fred (Wyer) skated 
to Aurora and back. 

“13 – Everyday people are on the lake. The iceboat sailed splendidly.  
Everyone was riding. I went over to meet the train and had a glorious sail.

Mar. 22 -  Men came from across the lake in a sleigh and horses and later went 
back. 

 “27 – Teams crossing on the ice.  Saw a horse and sleigh going to 
Ithaca – about in the middle of the lake.  The iceboats flew about and people 
skating. 

April 1 -  Mild and the ice is getting unsafe.

Naomi Brewer  (Sheldrake) 

7214 Wyers Pt Rd.

Ovid, N.Y.

 

From: bounce-112542730-9392...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-112542730-9392...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
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Photos of the 1912 event show crowds of people out on the frozen lake; even 
horses. But two Cornell students skating near King Ferry were drowned when the 
ice gave way beneath them. Here's the Cornell Daily Sun article:

 

http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=d 
http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=dd=CDS19120219.2.1 
d=CDS19120219.2.1


-Geo Kloppel


On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote:

I wonder for how long.  The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and 
then winds break up the ice.  

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-10 Thread Geo Kloppel
Photos of the 1912 event show crowds of people out on the frozen lake; even 
horses. But two Cornell students skating near King Ferry were drowned when the 
ice gave way beneath them. Here's the Cornell Daily Sun article:

http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=dd=CDS19120219.2.1

-Geo Kloppel

On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote:

 I wonder for how long.  The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and 
 then winds break up the ice.  

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-10 Thread david nicosia
Wow. That is really interesting. It shows how much colder it was in the 1800s 
and very early 1900s. It is almost unheard of
for any of the Finger Lake to freeze over today. The above period was during 
the end of the Little Ice Age before the early 20th 
century warm-up. 




On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:50 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu 
wrote:
 
I wonder for how long.  The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and 
then winds break up the ice.  When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday 
morning (we’re just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with 
shards of ice, clear as glass—and then the water was indeed frozen over, but 
just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out.  
 
From:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
 
A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life.  Auk 
29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 
1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912.  A couple of these were thought due to 
volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.
 
Steve Fast
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-10 Thread sfernstr
In 1970, I worked as the class clerk for the Cornell class of 1910. One alumnus 
told me that, while a student, he had skated the length of Cayuga Lake to visit 
with his Dad. He returned, also by skates, the next day. He said the lake 
didn't stay frozen for very many days, and had failed to freeze so completely 
any other year he was in college.

Sarah Fern
 david nicosia daven1...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Wow. That is really interesting. It shows how much colder it was in the 1800s 
 and very early 1900s. It is almost unheard of
 for any of the Finger Lake to freeze over today. The above period was during 
 the end of the Little Ice Age before the early 20th 
 century warm-up. 
 
 
 
 
 On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:50 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk 
 l...@cornell.edu wrote:
  
 I wonder for how long.  The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and 
 then winds break up the ice.  When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday 
 morning (we’re just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered 
 with shards of ice, clear as glass—and then the water was indeed frozen over, 
 but just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out.  
  
 From:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 [mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM
 To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
 Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
  
 A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life.  
 Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 
 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912.  A couple of these were thought 
 due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.
  
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[cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Susan Fast
A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life.  Auk 
29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 
1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912.  A couple of these were thought due to 
volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.

Steve Fast

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Dave Nutter
That looks like Cayuga Lake froze completely at intervals of 20, 10, 30, 19, 9, 20, and 8 years between when the white settlers arrived and when that article was published in 1912. It would be surprising if there were then a gap of over a century.--Dave NutterOn Feb 09, 2014, at 09:18 PM, Susan Fast sustf...@yahoo.com wrote:A. R. Cahn in "The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life". Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912. A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.Steve Fast--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!--
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

2014-02-09 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
I wonder for how long.  The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and 
then winds break up the ice.  When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday 
morning (we're just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with 
shards of ice, clear as glass-and then the water was indeed frozen over, but 
just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out.

From: bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info

A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life.  Auk 
29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 
1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912.  A couple of these were thought due to 
volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.

Steve Fast
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