Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
Only if Chris saw it!! : ) Linda. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, wrote: > From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count > circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? > --Dave Nutter > > On Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" wrote: > >> That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the >> top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft >> of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately >> barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble >> foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? >> >> >> >> We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! >> >> >> >> >> >> Kevin >> >> >> >> From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean >> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul >> >> >> >> Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our >> house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the >> group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could >> it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? >> >> Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is >> gone? >> >> https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE >> >> thanksToby Dean >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> >> Welcome and Basics >> >> Rules and Information >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> >> Archives: >> >> The Mail Archive >> >> Surfbirds >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
I meant 2013. Even typing I'm not used to the new year.--Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 01:15 PM, nutter.d...@me.com wrote:From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? --Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" wrote:That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanks Toby Dean--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
From this should we assume that there was a live Wood Duck in the count circle during count week or in the basin in 2012? --Dave NutterOn Jan 03, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "Kevin J. McGowan" wrote:That’s a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanks Toby Dean--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
That's a Wood Duck. Note the yellowish, webbed feet, the shiny patch on the top of the wing with a small white line on the feathers below it, the tuft of red and yellow near the rump, and, as Ryan pointed out, the intricately barred flank feather. Nothing else has those. Looks like it had bumble foot on its right foot, or is that some kind of object? We did not have Wood Duck on the Ithaca Christmas Count on Tuesday! Kevin From: bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72554624-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:39 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
I am kind of surprised that people can shoot wood ducks, I have no problem with the common ducks and geese being hunted but wood ducks just seem too special to me. Are there sufficient numbers of wood ducks to maintain a breeding stock? and on another note regarding carcasses, in the fall I found a pigeon(rock dove) with an aluminum band apparently from a Schenectady homing pigeon breeder, at least that is what I gleaned from the abbreviations on the band online. I tried calling but got no answer and was going to mail it the address I found but haven't gotten around to it. Now on to observing live birds. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM, John VanNiel wrote: > Any of those theories are possible. Let me add one more: Could it have > been a waterfowl hunter that crippled the bird and couldnt recover it for > whatever reason? > > Birds of prey will typcially breast out a bird like that. > > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
John, you are right, I didn't look at the feet closely enough. So, would this bird have been hit in the air nearby and eaten here, or attacked down near Treman Lake nearby and carried over here? Or left elsewhere and carried by a fox or coyotes? guess we will never know. Thanks for the help and I will drop off at the Lab as soon as I can. There has been a red tailed hawk around lately. Toby On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM, John VanNiel wrote: > Those are webbed feet. I was thinking wood duck as well given the > irridescence on the back. > > > From: bounce-72554867-3493...@list.cornell.edu [ > bounce-72554867-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tobias Dean [ > tdea...@twcny.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:42 AM > To: cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul > > The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? I > am not > clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows its fairly > small > size. > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tobias Dean tobydea...@gmail.com>> wrote: > The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? > not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows fairly > small size. > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ryan Bakelaar rbakel...@aol.com>> wrote: > Looks like a Wood Duck. The beige flank feathers with the white tips are > diagnostic. It looks like a decent spread wing (or two) can be made from > the specimen, so the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates (located at Sapsucker > Woods) could put the carcass to good use. > Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to > our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the > group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but > could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? > -Original Message- > From: Tobias Dean mailto:tdea...@twcny.rr.com>> > To: cayugabirds-L cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu>> > Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:43 am > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul > > Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to > our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the > group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but > could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? > Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is > gone? > > > https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE > > thanksToby Dean > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave< > http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > Archives: > The Mail Archive< > http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave< > http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > Archives: > The Mail Archive< > http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? I am not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows its fairly small size. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Tobias Dean wrote: > The feet are 3 toed, hawklike, I was wondering if it is a Coopers Hawk? > not clear on the size being correct for Coopers, the glove shows fairly > small size. > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ryan Bakelaar wrote: > >> Looks like a Wood Duck. The beige flank feathers with the white tips >> are diagnostic. It looks like a decent spread wing (or two) can be made >> from the specimen, so the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates (located at >> Sapsucker Woods) could put the carcass to good use. >> >> Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to >> our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the >> group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but >> could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Tobias Dean >> To: cayugabirds-L >> Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:43 am >> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul >> >> Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close >> to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure >> the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but >> could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? >> Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is >> gone? >> >> >> https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE >> >> thanksToby Dean >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and >> Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail >> Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> >> !* >> -- >> > > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Carcase identification-murder most foul
Yesterday I found this mostly consumed corpse in the ditch very close to our house on South Hill. I can guess at an identification but I am sure the group will know. I saw crow or raven tracks around it in the snow but could it have been a car strike or a larger hawk? Also, would the Lab of O be interested in this if most of it is gone? https://plus.google.com/photos/101389825425162872761/albums/5829231409341707361?authkey=COCAnMafkduk0AE thanksToby Dean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
