Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations
"Devastation" makes it sound like the birds are knocking down buildings and people are dying. I think the word to describe crows' noise and droppings is "nuisance". And the term "murder" for a crow flock is a tad biased. I've also heard the term "congress" which is perhaps less derogatory.. or perhaps not.--Dave NutterOn Feb 09, 2012, at 09:05 PM, Mark Miller mmiller...@rochester.rr.com wrote: In NYS the crow season is Sep 1, 2011 to Mar 31, 2012 (all of upstate and Long Island, excluding NYC) but only on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mondays. There is no daily limit or possession limit. They are also exempt for HIP registration and maybe hunted with rifles and use of electronic calls. (from the NY hunting trapping 2011-2012 regulations). These are about the most lenient rules of any game species, but if you happen to be from Geneva or Auburn it's kind of hard to find anyone "pro crow" due to the devastation they cause. The rules are designed to help maintain population levels athealthy limits. Just FYI, I had a flock (murder) of about 1000 crows flying over me in the town ofWaterloo about 7 AM this morning (96A/East Lake Rd). -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations
In NYS the crow season is Sep 1, 2011 to Mar 31, 2012 (all of upstate and Long Island, excluding NYC) but only on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mondays. There is no daily limit or possession limit. They are also exempt for HIP registration and may be hunted with rifles and use of electronic calls. (from the NY hunting trapping 2011-2012 regulations). These are about the most lenient rules of any game species, but if you happen to be from Geneva or Auburn it's kind of hard to find anyone pro crow due to the devastation they cause. The rules are designed to help maintain population levels at healthy limits. Just FYI, I had a flock (murder) of about 1000 crows flying over me in the town of Waterloo about 7 AM this morning (96A/East Lake Rd). -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations
On 2/9/2012 9:05 PM, Mark Miller wrote: ... but if you happen to be from Geneva or Auburn it's kind of hard to find anyone pro crow due to the devastation they cause. The rules are designed to help maintain population levels at healthy limits. Just FYI, I had a flock (murder) of about 1000 crows flying over me in the town of Waterloo about 7 AM this morning (96A/East Lake Rd). There have been winters when crows roosted in downtown Ithaca, and the sidewalks became covered with the inevitable result in the area where I park my car - sometimes the car, too. It didn't make me want to shoot them, although sometimes I did wish someone would bring in a Goshawk or other raptor big enough to scare them off! Seems hard to argue that crow hunting has any relationship to maintaining healthy population limits in NYS, given how sporadic and relatively unregulated it is. Seems more like a bunch of people wanting to go out and shoot at a bunch of birds, and then compare body counts over beers. In Auburn the 'hunt' was run by a bar, making that particularly easy for participants. Alicia -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations
Before I get any hate mail. please note that I am providing information, not supporting an opinion on crow hunting or hunting in general... Mark Miller is correct when he says that these rules are lenient as far as GAME SPECIES go, but there are many species in NY that are unprotected by law. These include red aquirrels, chipmunks, woodchucks, flying squirrels, procupines, etc.etc. In all of those cases, you can do all of the things mentioned below in regards to crow hunting (using rifle, using electronic calls, no daily or seasonal bag limits) and IN ADDITION you can take them over bait, any day of the year and any time of day. As I understand it, crows are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty act only becuase the Act covers families of birds not individual species. So through a technicality, it is a game species, but the states have generally taken every legal step to make them as easy to hunt as possible. **Ever wonder why crows can only be shot from fri-mon? There are only so many days of crow hunting that are allowed under the Act and by spreading those days over weekends, it maximizes the chances of hunters being off work and able to hunt. Otherwise, the season would be continuos like nearly every other season in NY and end much sooner. From: bounce-40021368-3493...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-40021368-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Miller [mmiller...@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:05 PM To: Cayugabirds Posting Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations In NYS the crow season is Sep 1, 2011 to Mar 31, 2012 (all of upstate and Long Island, excluding NYC) but only on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mondays. There is no daily limit or possession limit. They are also exempt for HIP registration and may be hunted with rifles and use of electronic calls. (from the NY hunting trapping 2011-2012 regulations). These are about the most lenient rules of any game species, but if you happen to be from Geneva or Auburn it's kind of hard to find anyone pro crow due to the devastation they cause. The rules are designed to help maintain population levels at healthy limits. Just FYI, I had a flock (murder) of about 1000 crows flying over me in the town of Waterloo about 7 AM this morning (96A/East Lake Rd). -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
