Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?
I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 NYS-414, near Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be okay for traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or road expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please chime in if you see other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal awhile ago, and it was hard to track down. --Dave Nutter On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington darlingtonb...@gmail.com wrote: And not just the light pollution! It's a massive project. Betsy On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.eduwrote: My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back. Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris says this is not ok too discuss here. Karen -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?
The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out the risk of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause for concern. It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards one side of the issue which one would expect from the site name!). -kimberly On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote: I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 NYS-414, near Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be okay for traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or road expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please chime in if you see other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal awhile ago, and it was hard to track down. --Dave Nutter On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington darlingtonb...@gmail.com wrote: And not just the light pollution! It's a massive project. Betsy On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.eduwrote: My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back. Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris says this is not ok too discuss here. Karen -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?
The casino is likely to be the anchor for other major development in the immediate area. One $100,000,000 project already has been presented to the Planning Board, to be located a little further west on Rte 318, and proposing hundreds of thousands of sq feet of retail commercial space on a 155 acre parcel. Last week NYS gave Seneca County a $750,000 grant to put in a sewer system along Rte 318, extending up to the Premium Outlets site, removing one major hurdle to further development. Alicia On 12/21/2014 12:32 PM, Kimberly Sucy wrote: The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out the risk of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause for concern. It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards one side of the issue which one would expect from the site name!). -kimberly On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote: I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 NYS-414, near Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be okay for traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or road expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please chime in if you see other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal awhile ago, and it was hard to track down. --Dave Nutter On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington darlingtonb...@gmail.com mailto:darlingtonb...@gmail.com wrote: And not just the light pollution! It's a massive project. Betsy On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.edu mailto:k...@cornell.eduwrote: My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back. Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris says this is not ok too discuss here. Karen -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird
[cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?
My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back. Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris says this is not ok too discuss here. Karen -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?
And not just the light pollution! It's a massive project. Betsy On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein k...@cornell.edu wrote: My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back. Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris says this is not ok too discuss here. Karen -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
