Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin 
The casino is likely to be the anchor for other major development in the 
immediate area.  One $100,000,000 project already has been presented to 
the Planning Board, to be located a little further west on Rte 318, and 
proposing "hundreds of thousands" of sq feet of retail & commercial 
space on a 155 acre parcel.  Last week NYS gave Seneca County a $750,000 
grant to put in a sewer system along Rte 318, extending up to the 
Premium Outlets site, removing one major hurdle to further development.

Alicia


On 12/21/2014 12:32 PM, Kimberly Sucy wrote:
> The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out 
> the risk of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause 
> for concern.   It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards 
> one side of the issue which one would expect from the site name!).
>
> -kimberly
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:
>
>> I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway 
>> by being immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 & 
>> NYS-414, near Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would 
>> expect additional traffic on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east 
>> NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, and to the south on 
>> NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other roads around 
>> the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin will 
>> not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or 
>> any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the 
>> complex have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local 
>> increase. We might be okay for traffic as long as there are no new 
>> roads or road straightenings or road expansions. Maybe it'll be a 
>> flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and after construction 
>> we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution will be 
>> limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the 
>> interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp 
>> full of dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets 
>> commuting between here and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly 
>> the the casino site. Please chime in if you see other problems or 
>> think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal awhile 
>> ago, and it was hard to track down.
>> --Dave Nutter
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington 
>> mailto:darlingtonb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
>>> Betsy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein >> >wrote:
>>>
>>> My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds
>>> (please weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns
>>> about the light pollution from the gigantic casino facility just
>>> approved for Tyre, and the impacts this gaming development may
>>> generate at Montezuma NWR. When this project was first proposed,
>>> I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, but never heard back.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts. Please email me off- list if Chris
>>> says this is not ok too discuss here.
>>>
>>> Karen
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Kimberly Sucy 
The CasiNO Tyre web site ( http://www.casinofreetyre.com ) points out the risk 
of runoff from the parking areas into White Brook as a cause for concern.   
It's a good site (discounting the obvious bias towards one side of the issue 
which one would expect from the site name!).

-kimberly


On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:

> I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being 
> immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 & NYS-414, near 
> Magee at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic 
> on NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on 
> NYS-31, and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the 
> other roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake 
> Basin will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or 
> any large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex 
> have to come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be 
> okay for traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or 
> road expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, 
> and after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light 
> pollution will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the 
> interchange on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of 
> dead trees with a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here 
> and the Montezuma Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please 
> chime in if you see other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one 
> map of the proposal awhile ago, and it was hard to track down. 
> --Dave Nutter
> 
> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington  
> wrote:
> 
>> And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
>> Betsy
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein wrote:
>> My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please 
>> weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light 
>> pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the 
>> impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this 
>> project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, 
>> but never heard back.
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is 
>> not ok too discuss here.
>> 
>> Karen
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-21 Thread Dave Nutter 
I think the location will be convenient for travelers on the Thruway by being 
immediately on the north side of the interchange of I-90 & NYS-414, near Magee 
at the west edge of the Town of Tyre. I would expect additional traffic on 
NYS-414, NYS-318, to the east NYS-5/US-20, to the northeast maybe on NYS-31, 
and to the south on NYS-96A, NYS-96, and NYS-89. My hope is that the other 
roads around the Montezuma Wetlands Complex and the north Cayuga Lake Basin 
will not see much impact because they do not efficiently serve Magee or any 
large population center. Of course workers to build and run the complex have to 
come from somewhere, so expect a general local increase. We might be okay for 
traffic as long as there are no new roads or road straightenings or road 
expansions. Maybe it'll be a flop, since casinos elsewhere are failing, and 
after construction we'll see very little traffic. Maybe the light pollution 
will be limited to the interchange area. About 2 miles west of the interchange 
on the north side of the Thruway is a large pond/swamp full of dead trees with 
a major heronry, and herons and egrets commuting between here and the Montezuma 
Wetlands Complex may overfly the the casino site. Please chime in if you see 
other problems or think I've got it wrong. I only saw one map of the proposal 
awhile ago, and it was hard to track down.

--Dave Nutter


On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Betsy Darlington  wrote:

> And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
> Betsy
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein wrote:
>
> My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please 
> weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light 
> pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the 
> impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this 
> project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done, 
> but never heard back.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this 
> is not ok too discuss here.
>
> Karen
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Betsy Darlington 
And not just the light pollution!  It's a massive project.
Betsy

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:
>
> My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
> weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
> pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
> impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
> project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
> but never heard back.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is
> not ok too discuss here.
>
> Karen
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[cayugabirds-l] Impacts of approved casino at Tyre:OT?

2014-12-19 Thread Karen Edelstein 
My advance apologies if this question is outside of list bounds (please
weigh in, Chris). I am wondering if there are concerns about the light
pollution from the gigantic casino facility just approved for Tyre, and the
impacts this gaming development may generate at Montezuma NWR. When this
project was first proposed, I asked Tom Jasikoff if a study would be done,
but never heard back.

Thanks for your thoughts.  Please email me off- list if Chris says this is
not ok too discuss here.

Karen

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