Re: [cayugabirds-l] Lindsay-Parson's--this morning and questions

2013-06-22 Thread Geo Kloppel 
I have had a similar experience there with Cerulean Warblers, finding them one 
day at the base of the slope and the next at the top, in the state forest. 
These were the same individuals, in all likelihood. It's a long way around for 
us, but very little for the birds!

-Geo Kloppel



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Lindsay-Parson's--this morning and questions

2013-06-21 Thread Gary Kohlenberg 
My experience with the three routes Dave mentions is that they all work. I have 
even been successful sitting at the picnic table on top of the Pinnacles while 
a Worm-eating Warbler was feeding in the flat section of woods at the top. They 
seem to forage over a pretty large area. They have also been found on the lower 
hillside where the trail crosses the railroad tracks.
Playback isn't necessary or even desirable in most instances. Sitting still I 
have had them approach very close in their quest for food.
Gary


On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:26 PM, "nutter.d...@me.com" 
mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>> wrote:

In the past I have thought that the best way to find a Worm-eating Warbler was 
to walk off trail on the huge extremely steep hillside in the dry oak forest 
below the elevation of blueberry ground cover and above the elevation of 
maples, starting from the red or blue trail at the bottom, the Abbott Trail at 
the top or Station Road for extra distance from the north. There is no trail 
into this area, only a few eroded places and bits of diagonal deer path. This 
method takes a lot of time and effort, risks slipping on the oak leaves and 
rocks, and risks disturbing plants and ground-nesting birds including 
Worm-eating Warblers themselves. Also this method is unreliable. This year this 
tactic appears also to be less successful at finding the birds than following 
the Abbott Loop trail from Bald Hill Road and (apparently) observing from the 
top edge of the steep hillside, or now even observing from the bottom of the 
hillside on the red trail. Perhaps the birds are using a wider range of habitat 
than I thought, and perhaps there are more reasons other people have succeeded 
with a different tactic. I prefer not to use playback.

I'm glad the Clay-colored Sparrow which Bob & I found has been staying and 
cooperating.

--Dave Nutter

On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Anne Marie Johnson 
mailto:annemariejohn...@frontiernet.net>> 
wrote:

The CLAY-COLORED SPARROW continues to sing persistently in the northeast
portion of the first field along the blue trail. It's easy to hear as you
approach the area. It seems to move from perch to perch singing, oblivious
to observers. At one point I was walking along the trail, and it popped
into a tree and sang directly over my head. I heard it singing almost
constantly at 8:30 and 10:15.

PRAIRIE WARBLERS can be seen in the same area. And a HOODED WARBLER was
singing in the first wooded area near the parking area both on my way in
and my way out. On the way in, it was viewable at the edge of the woods
where the trail enters the first field.

Along the red trail at the base of the Pinnacles, I heard two WORM-EATING
WARBLERS singing, and then amazingly, one flew in and sang, giving me a
great, albeit brief, look. It was foraging and moving quickly from north to
south.

Plenty of the usual summer breeders were around and singing:
Chestnut-sided, Common Yellowthroat, Ovenbird, and Yellow warblers. An
Indigo Bunting joined in at Celia's Cup. I saw several Cuckoos flying
across the fields but could never get on one to identify the species. I
heard the Blue-winged Warbler song briefly but didn't see the bird.

Questions about L-P trails, Worm-eating Warblers, and the Pinnacles... Is
there a trail that goes up the Pinnacles from inside the preserve? The map
on the Finger Lakes Land Trust website shows the trails only running along
the base of the pinnacles, but the map on the sign at the preserve made it
seem like the red trail might actually go up the Pinnacles, although it was
hard to tell where the Pinnacles were on that map. When people see the
warblers from the Pinnacles (like the ones listed in the eBird hotspot for
L-P Pinnacles), are they seeing/hearing them from the base of the
Pinnacles, from the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest, or from some
other trail?

For the guys I met on the trail this morning, this web page gives
information and directions to the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest,
which takes you to the top of the Pinnacles. I think the best chance of
seeing a Worm-eating Warbler is along that trail, but maybe someone else
will chime in with a better recommendation.
http://www.cnyhiking.com/FLT-AbbottLoop.htm

Anne Marie Johnson


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Lindsay-Parson's--this morning and questions

2013-06-21 Thread nutter.dave 
In the past I have thought that the best way to find a Worm-eating Warbler was to walk off trail on the huge extremely steep hillside in the dry oak forest below the elevation of blueberry ground cover and above the elevation of maples, starting from the red or blue trail at the bottom, the Abbott Trail at the top or Station Road for extra distance from the north. There is no trail into this area, only a few eroded places and bits of diagonal deer path. This method takes a lot of time and effort, risks slipping on the oak leaves and rocks, and risks disturbing plants and ground-nesting birds including Worm-eating Warblers themselves. Also this method is unreliable. This year this tactic appears also to be less successful at finding the birds than following the Abbott Loop trail from Bald Hill Road and (apparently) observing from the top edge of the steep hillside, or now even observing from the bottom of the hillside on the red trail. Perhaps the birds are using a wider range of habitat than I thought, and perhaps there are more reasons other people have succeeded with a different tactic. I prefer not to use playback.I'm glad the Clay-colored Sparrow which Bob & I found has been staying and cooperating.--Dave NutterOn Jun 21, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Anne Marie Johnson  wrote:The CLAY-COLORED SPARROW continues to sing persistently in the northeast  portion of the first field along the blue trail. It's easy to hear as you  approach the area. It seems to move from perch to perch singing, oblivious  to observers. At one point I was walking along the trail, and it popped  into a tree and sang directly over my head. I heard it singing almost  constantly at 8:30 and 10:15.  PRAIRIE WARBLERS can be seen in the same area. And a HOODED WARBLER was  singing in the first wooded area near the parking area both on my way in  and my way out. On the way in, it was viewable at the edge of the woods  where the trail enters the first field.  Along the red trail at the base of the Pinnacles, I heard two WORM-EATING  WARBLERS singing, and then amazingly, one flew in and sang, giving me a  great, albeit brief, look. It was foraging and moving quickly from north to  south.  Plenty of the usual summer breeders were around and singing:  Chestnut-sided, Common Yellowthroat, Ovenbird, and Yellow warblers. An  Indigo Bunting joined in at Celia's Cup. I saw several Cuckoos flying  across the fields but could never get on one to identify the species. I  heard the Blue-winged Warbler song briefly but didn't see the bird.  Questions about L-P trails, Worm-eating Warblers, and the Pinnacles... Is  there a trail that goes up the Pinnacles from inside the preserve? The map  on the Finger Lakes Land Trust website shows the trails only running along  the base of the pinnacles, but the map on the sign at the preserve made it  seem like the red trail might actually go up the Pinnacles, although it was  hard to tell where the Pinnacles were on that map. When people see the  warblers from the Pinnacles (like the ones listed in the eBird hotspot for  L-P Pinnacles), are they seeing/hearing them from the base of the  Pinnacles, from the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest, or from some  other trail?  For the guys I met on the trail this morning, this web page gives  information and directions to the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest,  which takes you to the top of the Pinnacles. I think the best chance of  seeing a Worm-eating Warbler is along that trail, but maybe someone else  will chime in with a better recommendation. http://www.cnyhiking.com/FLT-AbbottLoop.htm  Anne Marie Johnson   --  Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm  ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'>http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html  Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/  --
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[cayugabirds-l] Lindsay-Parson's--this morning and questions

2013-06-21 Thread Anne Marie Johnson 
The CLAY-COLORED SPARROW continues to sing persistently in the northeast 
portion of the first field along the blue trail. It's easy to hear as you 
approach the area. It seems to move from perch to perch singing, oblivious 
to observers. At one point I was walking along the trail, and it popped 
into a tree and sang directly over my head. I heard it singing almost 
constantly at 8:30 and 10:15.


PRAIRIE WARBLERS can be seen in the same area. And a HOODED WARBLER was 
singing in the first wooded area near the parking area both on my way in 
and my way out. On the way in, it was viewable at the edge of the woods 
where the trail enters the first field.


Along the red trail at the base of the Pinnacles, I heard two WORM-EATING 
WARBLERS singing, and then amazingly, one flew in and sang, giving me a 
great, albeit brief, look. It was foraging and moving quickly from north to 
south.


Plenty of the usual summer breeders were around and singing: 
Chestnut-sided, Common Yellowthroat, Ovenbird, and Yellow warblers. An 
Indigo Bunting joined in at Celia's Cup. I saw several Cuckoos flying 
across the fields but could never get on one to identify the species. I 
heard the Blue-winged Warbler song briefly but didn't see the bird.


Questions about L-P trails, Worm-eating Warblers, and the Pinnacles... Is 
there a trail that goes up the Pinnacles from inside the preserve? The map 
on the Finger Lakes Land Trust website shows the trails only running along 
the base of the pinnacles, but the map on the sign at the preserve made it 
seem like the red trail might actually go up the Pinnacles, although it was 
hard to tell where the Pinnacles were on that map. When people see the 
warblers from the Pinnacles (like the ones listed in the eBird hotspot for 
L-P Pinnacles), are they seeing/hearing them from the base of the 
Pinnacles, from the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest, or from some 
other trail?


For the guys I met on the trail this morning, this web page gives 
information and directions to the Abbott Loop Trail in Danby State Forest, 
which takes you to the top of the Pinnacles. I think the best chance of 
seeing a Worm-eating Warbler is along that trail, but maybe someone else 
will chime in with a better recommendation.

http://www.cnyhiking.com/FLT-AbbottLoop.htm

Anne Marie Johnson


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