Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
The photos labeled White-faced Ibis from November I would have called Glossy Ibis because of the whitish line of skin along the top of the faical skin between the eye and bill. Other birders are more expert than I, so I'd like to hear from them.--Dave NutterOn Nov 19, 2013, at 08:21 PM, joe Diana whiti...@roadrunner.com wrote:Hi,I have some photos from Oct 21and 22 and November 3, 2013. I have other views not up on the site, but maybe can be helpful.http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/Galleries/Birds/Waders-Shorebirds-Herons/13061498_R4dFT2#!i=2918733785k=ZmM8BLPDiana WhitingOn Nov 19, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote:I’m confused. The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or other abnormalities in the plumage. I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on the head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers.The bird with its head up inhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/is a Glossy, isn’t it? It has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown eye. It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend had.https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink.What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don’t see ibis every year, and I’ve never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos?KevinKevin J. McGowanIthaca, NYk...@cornell.edu607-254-2452From:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu[mailto:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu]On Behalf OfChristopher WoodSent:Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PMTo:Jay McGowanCc:CAYUGABIRDS-L;oneidabi...@yahoogroups.comSubject:Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibisesI think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, "The"White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird.Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance:http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5aThe second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars.http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention.Thanks,ChrisChris WoodeBird Neotropical Birds Project LeaderCornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New Yorkhttp://ebird.orghttp://neotropical.birds.cornell.eduOn Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edu wrote:Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning.--Jay McGowanMacaulay LibraryCornell Lab of Ornithologyjw...@cornell.edu--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations toeBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations toeBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations toeBird!--Diana Whitinghttp://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, The White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird. Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention. Thanks, Chris Chris Wood eBird Neotropical Birds Project Leader Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York http://ebird.org http://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edu wrote: Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
I agree that these are two very different birds. It looks like the second bird was seen and photographed until Nov 6th -- do we know if the bird seen today is the same as that one? KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Wood pinic...@gmail.commailto:pinic...@gmail.com wrote: I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, The White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird. Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention. Thanks, Chris Chris Wood eBird Neotropical Birds Project Leader Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York http://ebird.orghttp://ebird.org/ http://neotropical.birds.cornell.eduhttp://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu/ On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edumailto:jw...@cornell.edu wrote: Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edumailto:jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
I'm confused. The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or other abnormalities in the plumage. I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on the head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers. The bird with its head up in http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ is a Glossy, isn't it? It has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown eye. It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend had. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink. What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don't see ibis every year, and I've never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos? Kevin Kevin J. McGowan Ithaca, NY k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu 607-254-2452 From: bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Wood Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PM To: Jay McGowan Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, The White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird. Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention. Thanks, Chris Chris Wood eBird Neotropical Birds Project Leader Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York http://ebird.org http://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edumailto:jw...@cornell.edu wrote: Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edumailto:jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises
Hi, I have some photos from Oct 21and 22 and November 3, 2013. I have other views not up on the site, but maybe can be helpful. http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/Galleries/Birds/Waders-Shorebirds-Herons/13061498_R4dFT2#!i=2918733785k=ZmM8BLP Diana Whiting On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote: I’m confused. The White-faced Ibis I saw at Monteuma NWR on 17 October 2013 looked to be an adult: it had extensive red on the face, a decidedly red eye, brilliantly glossy wing coverts and tail, and had no obvious molt limits or other abnormalities in the plumage. I thought the Glossy Ibis with it was a hatch-year bird, with much less gloss on the wings, more white spotting on the head and neck, and evidence of variable wear on the back feathers. The bird with its head up in http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ is a Glossy, isn’t it? It has distinct white lines on the facial skin and appears to have a brown eye. It has the same kind of wear that the Glossy Ibis I saw this weekend had.https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rClpwPntu85jLOZZGDDWHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink. What do I have wrong? I admit up front that I don’t see ibis every year, and I’ve never spent much time trying to age them. Are there more photos? Kevin Kevin J. McGowan Ithaca, NY k...@cornell.edu 607-254-2452 From: bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-110892864-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Wood Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:59 PM To: Jay McGowan Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L; oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma ibises I think there have been at least two different White-faced Ibis at Montezuma this fall. A 1st-year bird that was found on the 17th and was seen daily through the 22nd. Starting the 23rd, I believe only the 1st-year Glossy Ibis was seen until the 27th. On the 27th, The White-faced Ibis appeared again -- the only problem is that this individual looks completely different and appears to be a 2nd-year bird. Here is a photo of the first bird (1st-year). Note the relatively uniform appearance: http://www.flickr.com/photos/68672476@N00/10392659105/in/photolist-gQn6tF-gQo4XR-gQnbEw-gQnc5a The second individual, apparently a second-year bird, looks very different. Note the contrast between the wing coverts and scapulars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/seabamirum/10876310134/ I think Andy Guthrie was the first to bring this to our attention. Thanks, Chris Chris Wood eBird Neotropical Birds Project Leader Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, New York http://ebird.org http://neotropical.birds.cornell.edu On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edu wrote: Thought some may be interested, after a period of absence and then with only the Glossy Ibis present, LaRue and Jackie report that both the Glossy and the White-faced ibis were in the Visitor Center pool this morning. -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- Diana Whiting http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
