[cayugabirds-l] Mystery Bird Song

[Suan Hsi Yong]

Can you identify this chipping bird song from Danby State Forest
(Michigan Hollow, near Diane's Crossing), recorded last week?

  https://youtu.be/h0WtyA0751A

Suan

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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird? Hawk ? 215 Willow Ave., Ithaca

[Susan Austern]

Greetings birders,
I just saw  a huge bird at the corner of Willows Avenue and Yates high up in 
the tree. If  anyone’s in the vicinity  please identify I would love to know 
what it is .
Thanks, Susan

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> On Jan 21, 2022, at 3:37 PM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
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>  Saw 50 Horned Larks foraging in grass beside pavement at ~48 Emmons Rd 
> Lansing, east of Rt 34-B. 
> FOY for me!
> 
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird disease

[Carol Cedarholm]

What do people in Tompkins county think about this mystery disease that is
killing birds south of us? Does the lab have information on it?  Has anyone
seen evidence of it here? Should we be taking feeders and birdbaths down?
Very disturbing
Carol Cedarholm

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

[Thomas Yaglowski]

Thank you, Wesley, for such a thoughtful response!

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 6:06 PM Wesley M. Hochachka 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>I work at the Lab of O, and I suppose that I could be labelled a
> "disease ecologist", but I want to make clear that I'm not speaking for the
> Lab of Ornithology here.
>
>Anyway, in terms of spread in NYS, I've heard informally that whatever
> this disease is, it's seems to have started to appear in the area around
> Ithaca.
>
>In my opinion there's no way that any human action is going to stop the
> spread of the disease, if it's caused by a pathogen (e.g., bacteria, virus,
> protozoa).  I cannot think of a single wildlife disease (and extremely few
> human diseased, i.e. just smallpox) that has been stopped.  Spread might be
> slowed, but that's about it.
>Given that we don't know the cause of the disease, even slowing spread
> seems unlikely to me.  There are not clearly obvious recommendations for
> actions that would be certain to have a positive effect.  Taking down
> feeders might help, if the disease is caused by a directly transmitted
> pathogen.  However, if it's really true that mostly young birds are coming
> down with the disease, they might not be the most likely to be attending
> bird feeders...of course it might just be that younger birds are more
> likely to be noticed.  If the disease is caused by a vector-transmitted
> pathogen (mosquito-transmitted, for example) then actions like taking down
> bird feeders likely would have extremely minimal effects, at best.
>Only if the disease is somehow caused by a human-made toxin could there
> be a chance for really effective action, I'm guessing.
>
>Having written all of the above, whatever recommendations I've seen
> couldn't hurt, and so they seem reasonable from that perspective.
>
>We'll have to wait a few months to see if we can detect any effect of
> the populations of some bird species, looking at data from eBird or Project
> FeederWatch, but that's something that should probably be done this fall.
> I know that wouldn't help the situation, but right now there's no clear
> information about the impact of the disease on bird populations.
> Individual birds are definitely dying, but the magnitude of the effect on
> populations as a whole is unknown, as far as I know.
>
> Wesley
>
>
>
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> *From:* bounce-125761038-3494...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-125761038-3494...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Thomas Yaglowski <
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> *Sent:* Saturday, July 10, 2021 09:29
> *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus
>
> I've been seeing quite a bit about the mystery bird virus that is killing
> many birds. My understanding is that it originated down South and is
> spreading rapidly to the northeast. A friend has relayed that it is now in
> Chautauqua county and the Hudson Valley region.
>
> What is everyone's opinion on how to help stop the spread? Are you already
> taking down feeders and sanitizing them? Any advice and suggestions from
> the experts at the Lab of Ornithology would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

[Wesley M. Hochachka]

Hi,

   I work at the Lab of O, and I suppose that I could be labelled a "disease 
ecologist", but I want to make clear that I'm not speaking for the Lab of 
Ornithology here.

   Anyway, in terms of spread in NYS, I've heard informally that whatever this 
disease is, it's seems to have started to appear in the area around Ithaca.

   In my opinion there's no way that any human action is going to stop the 
spread of the disease, if it's caused by a pathogen (e.g., bacteria, virus, 
protozoa).  I cannot think of a single wildlife disease (and extremely few 
human diseased, i.e. just smallpox) that has been stopped.  Spread might be 
slowed, but that's about it.
   Given that we don't know the cause of the disease, even slowing spread seems 
unlikely to me.  There are not clearly obvious recommendations for actions that 
would be certain to have a positive effect.  Taking down feeders might help, if 
the disease is caused by a directly transmitted pathogen.  However, if it's 
really true that mostly young birds are coming down with the disease, they 
might not be the most likely to be attending bird feeders...of course it might 
just be that younger birds are more likely to be noticed.  If the disease is 
caused by a vector-transmitted pathogen (mosquito-transmitted, for example) 
then actions like taking down bird feeders likely would have extremely minimal 
effects, at best.
   Only if the disease is somehow caused by a human-made toxin could there be a 
chance for really effective action, I'm guessing.

   Having written all of the above, whatever recommendations I've seen couldn't 
hurt, and so they seem reasonable from that perspective.

   We'll have to wait a few months to see if we can detect any effect of the 
populations of some bird species, looking at data from eBird or Project 
FeederWatch, but that's something that should probably be done this fall.  I 
know that wouldn't help the situation, but right now there's no clear 
information about the impact of the disease on bird populations.  Individual 
birds are definitely dying, but the magnitude of the effect on populations as a 
whole is unknown, as far as I know.

Wesley




From: bounce-125761038-3494...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Thomas Yaglowski 

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 09:29
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

I've been seeing quite a bit about the mystery bird virus that is killing many 
birds. My understanding is that it originated down South and is spreading 
rapidly to the northeast. A friend has relayed that it is now in Chautauqua 
county and the Hudson Valley region.

What is everyone's opinion on how to help stop the spread? Are you already 
taking down feeders and sanitizing them? Any advice and suggestions from the 
experts at the Lab of Ornithology would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Tom
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

[Johnson, Alyssa]

Here is some info from the National Audubon Society: 
https://www.audubon.org/news/scientists-still-searching-pathogen-behind-easts-songbird-epidemic

I work at Montezuma Audubon and am on vacation so I can’t help more, but we are 
waiting to hear from DEC what their directive is. For now, that link above is 
the info we’re sharing with folx.

Alyssa Johnson
Environmental Educator
Montezuma Audubon Center

From: bounce-125761547-79436...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Thomas Yaglowski 

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:08:30 PM
To: cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu 
Subject: Re:[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

Sorry for not including specifics. I am in Central NY on the east side of 
Cayuga Lake.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 9:29 AM Thomas Yaglowski 
mailto:t...@coburndesign.com>> wrote:
I've been seeing quite a bit about the mystery bird virus that is killing many 
birds. My understanding is that it originated down South and is spreading 
rapidly to the northeast. A friend has relayed that it is now in Chautauqua 
county and the Hudson Valley region.

What is everyone's opinion on how to help stop the spread? Are you already 
taking down feeders and sanitizing them? Any advice and suggestions from the 
experts at the Lab of Ornithology would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Tom
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

[Thomas Yaglowski]

Sorry for not including specifics. I am in Central NY on the east side of
Cayuga Lake.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 9:29 AM Thomas Yaglowski 
wrote:

> I've been seeing quite a bit about the mystery bird virus that is killing
> many birds. My understanding is that it originated down South and is
> spreading rapidly to the northeast. A friend has relayed that it is now in
> Chautauqua county and the Hudson Valley region.
>
> What is everyone's opinion on how to help stop the spread? Are you already
> taking down feeders and sanitizing them? Any advice and suggestions from
> the experts at the Lab of Ornithology would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>

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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird virus

[Thomas Yaglowski]

I've been seeing quite a bit about the mystery bird virus that is killing
many birds. My understanding is that it originated down South and is
spreading rapidly to the northeast. A friend has relayed that it is now in
Chautauqua county and the Hudson Valley region.

What is everyone's opinion on how to help stop the spread? Are you already
taking down feeders and sanitizing them? Any advice and suggestions from
the experts at the Lab of Ornithology would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Tom

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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird

[Carol Keeler]

Thanks to all of you for IDing my mystery bird.  I should have been able to do 
it myself.  I had a big influx of Yellow Rumps here at home eating the 
bayberries.   They were here for days,  until they finished all the berries.  I 
guess I went brain dead on it.  Thanks for your help.  I’ve got a number of 
warblers, vireos, and flycatchers to ID  yet.  

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird

[phil mc]

That's a Yellow-rumped Warbler. A bit of yellow can be seen high on the side, 
and a little tuft poking pout at the rump too. 
Phillip McNeil
607.342.5031 

On Monday, February 19, 2018, 4:52:52 PM EST, Carol Keeler 
 wrote:  
 
 
I’ve been editing some pictures I took last fall and have one I can’t identify. 
 It kind of looks like a pipit, but doesn’t match any picture in Sibley.  Can 
anyone please ID for me?

www.pbase.com/carol_keeler_photo/image/167028793

Thanks!
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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird

[Carol Keeler]

I’ve been editing some pictures I took last fall and have one I can’t identify. 
 It kind of looks like a pipit, but doesn’t match any picture in Sibley.  Can 
anyone please ID for me?

www.pbase.com/carol_keeler_photo/image/167028793

Thanks!
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed!

[bob mcguire]

Betsy & Geo: You might be interested to know that Lang recorded that titmouse 
(Audubon #3) in Ohio years ago!

Bob
On Apr 29, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:

> Oh yeah, I've heard Tufted Titmouse do that! In fact, there's a recording of 
> just such a song in the Audubon Birds app (Tufted Titmouse, Track #3), and 
> it's pitched right on the open E string of the violin. Any violinist would 
> notice the resemblance.
> 
> -Geo
> 
> On Apr 29, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Betsy Darlington  
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, my mystery bird is a Tufted Titmouse!  It finally landed on a nearby 
>> branch, continued to toot that same high-ish E, and was soon joined by what 
>> was probably a female, since the singer didn't chase it away.  I have never 
>> heard a titmouse make that sound.  Must have been pretty appealing to his 
>> lady friend!
>> Betsy
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed elsewhere, too

[Linda Orkin]

I always say if you don't line what it is it's probably a titmouse. One time I 
heard a very dry chuff kind of croaking repeated sound. Searched and searched 
and finally found the titmouse. Although I gotta say he probably was not going 
to end up with a wife with that song. 

Linda Orkin. 

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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Antonia Saxon  wrote:
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> Too late to solve Betsy's mystery, but wanted to write to say that my 
> sister-in-law and I went through the same sequence Easter weekend -- 
> unfamiliar song, three clear identical notes, walked around block following 
> bird but couldn't find it. We live right in Trumansburg and see the same 
> bunch of backyard birds over and over again, so Occam's razor suggested it 
> must be a bird we knew. It took us an embarrassingly long time to think to 
> try titmouse. (Thank you, All About Birds!). One thing we got hung up on was 
> the volume of the sound. High decibel-to-gram ratio, there.
> 
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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed elsewhere, too

[Antonia Saxon]

Too late to solve Betsy's mystery, but wanted to write to say that my 
sister-in-law and I went through the same sequence Easter weekend -- 
unfamiliar song, three clear identical notes, walked around block 
following bird but couldn't find it. We live right in Trumansburg and 
see the same bunch of backyard birds over and over again, so Occam's 
razor suggested it must be a bird we knew. It took us an embarrassingly 
long time to think to try titmouse. (Thank you, All About Birds!). One 
thing we got hung up on was the volume of the sound. High 
decibel-to-gram ratio, there.


Antonia Saxon

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed!

[Geo Kloppel]

Oh yeah, I've heard Tufted Titmouse do that! In fact, there's a recording of 
just such a song in the Audubon Birds app (Tufted Titmouse, Track #3), and it's 
pitched right on the open E string of the violin. Any violinist would notice 
the resemblance.

-Geo

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Betsy Darlington  
> wrote:
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> Well, my mystery bird is a Tufted Titmouse!  It finally landed on a nearby 
> branch, continued to toot that same high-ish E, and was soon joined by what 
> was probably a female, since the singer didn't chase it away.  I have never 
> heard a titmouse make that sound.  Must have been pretty appealing to his 
> lady friend!
> Betsy
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed!

[Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes]

Hi Betsy,

I had skipped your description of "clear whistles" and got hung up on the sound 
of a violin, which can sound more wailing or moaning (to me) than clear or 
whistling. Tufted Titmouse was definitely the other bird of consideration, and 
I should have mentioned that.

Glad you found your mystery singer!

Bird sound ID - fun stuff!!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

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On Apr 29, 2017, at 09:04, Betsy Darlington 
> wrote:

Well, my mystery bird is a Tufted Titmouse!  It finally landed on a nearby 
branch, continued to toot that same high-ish E, and was soon joined by what was 
probably a female, since the singer didn't chase it away.  I have never heard a 
titmouse make that sound.  Must have been pretty appealing to his lady friend!
Betsy
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[cayugabirds-l] Mystery bird revealed!

[Betsy Darlington]

Well, my mystery bird is a Tufted Titmouse!  It finally landed on a nearby
branch, continued to toot that same high-ish E, and was soon joined by what
was probably a female, since the singer didn't chase it away.  I have never
heard a titmouse make that sound.  Must have been pretty appealing to his
lady friend!
Betsy

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