Re: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
Birders can find this fine car placard among the New York State Breeding Bird Atlas III materials. During the 2000 Atlas I made up something like this for my own car while surveying far from home, and I can testify that it’s an effective ice-breaker. Just print it, slip it in a clear plastic sleeve and put it in your car window whenever you get out to do some birding (and remember to submit your observations to the Atlas). https://s3.amazonaws.com/is-ebird-wordpress-prod-s3/wp-content/uploads/sites/79/2019/11/VehiclePlacard.pdf >> On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Donna Lee Scott wrote: > I have been thinking of getting magnetic removable signs for my car's sides > and back that say "BIRD WATCHER". -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
Sheriff's deputies have long been vigilant about birders and especially photographers around the airport fence, in both tense and more relaxed times. Twice over the past 20 years, starting at least a few years after 9/11, sheriff's deputies have pulled me over along Snyder Road, asked me what I was doing, and then cheerfully sent me on my way. Once the deputy explained that officers were watching me from the sheriff's building along Warren Road, then decided to send someone out when they saw me taking photos [of Vesper Sparrows]. I recall that Deputy Anderson specifically told me to pull my car all the way off the road when stopping to bird. I don't remember specific instructions about not taking photos. Still, since then I have made a point of not taking photos through the fence. I figure that if I ever find a Snowy Owl or something like that, I can always call the sheriff's office to explain first. Also, I do make a point of calling ahead if I lead groups along Snyder Road, as I sometimes do for the CBC on January 1. Anyway, after that first incident, I sent a letter with my photos to Deputy Anderson, explaining why the Vesper Sparrows, as well as woodcocks and other airport birds, are special. He was glad to receive the letter. So I have always thought that the sheriff's office is striking a reasonable balance in ensuring airport security while still being friendly and respectful to me as a birder. I do see that six squad cars is a whole different level of response. Maybe it is somehow because the officers are more wary in these troubled times. But given my past experience, I would guess that it's more likely a case of Magnus having companions, and then maybe a backup request getting out to a few on-duty officers at once. Mark Chao -Original Message- From: bounce-124477674-3493...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of Kenneth V. Rosenberg Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:13 PM To: Marie P. Read ; Magnus Fiskesjo ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning They did a similar thing right after 9/11, which might have been slightly more justified than today. Many birding locations, such as sewage ponds in Arizona, have remained closed to birders indefinitely -- for no good reason. The "authorities" look for any chance to exude their paranoia and infringe more and more on public rights. What possibly could photographing birds near a municipal airport have to do with slowing a pandemic. I think we should resist. Ken Rosenberg Applied Conservation Scientist Cornell Lab of Ornithology American Bird Conservancy Fellow, Atkinson Center for a Sustainable Future k...@cornell.edu Wk: 607-254-2412 Cell: 607-342-4594 On 3/19/20, 5:40 PM, "bounce-124477516-3493...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Marie P. Read" wrote: WH! Things are getting seriously weird. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA e-mail m...@cornell.edu Website: http://www.marieread.com AUTHOR of: Mastering Bird Photography: The Art, Craft, and Technique of Photographing Birds and Their Behavior https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/mastering-bird-photography/?REF=101/ From: bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Magnus Fiskesjo [magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/Cay
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
They did a similar thing right after 9/11, which might have been slightly more justified than today. Many birding locations, such as sewage ponds in Arizona, have remained closed to birders indefinitely -- for no good reason. The "authorities" look for any chance to exude their paranoia and infringe more and more on public rights. What possibly could photographing birds near a municipal airport have to do with slowing a pandemic. I think we should resist. Ken Rosenberg Applied Conservation Scientist Cornell Lab of Ornithology American Bird Conservancy Fellow, Atkinson Center for a Sustainable Future k...@cornell.edu Wk: 607-254-2412 Cell: 607-342-4594 On 3/19/20, 5:40 PM, "bounce-124477516-3493...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Marie P. Read" wrote: WH! Things are getting seriously weird. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA e-mail m...@cornell.edu Website: http://www.marieread.com AUTHOR of: Mastering Bird Photography: The Art, Craft, and Technique of Photographing Birds and Their Behavior https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/mastering-bird-photography/?REF=101/ From: bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Magnus Fiskesjo [magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
I should add that they weren't so bad. Sure, it was annoying, but maybe I can see them sitting in their office --with *nothing* to do?!-- and then seeing four people getting out and walking up to their fence on the other side! Also, the lead agent gave me his card and said we could call him: Josh Nalley, Airport deputy director of operations/Fire chief Ithaca-Tompkins Regional Airport, 72 Brown Road, Ithaca NY 14850 607 266 2641 Email: jnal...@tompkins-co.org But maybe the more important thing we can do, as the Cauyga Bird Club perhaps, is to regularly ask the airport to delay the cutting of the grass until the meadowlark chicks have fledged? Someone mentioned this request has been made to them in the past? Do they listen?? --Magnus Magnus Fiskesjö n...@cornell.edu From: Donna Lee Scott Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:51 PM To: Magnus Fiskesjo; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning What is their phone number? I go to the airport a lot and have never been accosted in this way. But then, we old white-haired (& white) women can get away with more than the rest of you! When I was over at Lick Street, Moravia/Locke on Sunday, stopped by the road counting my 115 Robins, a NY State Trooper stopped to "see if I was OK". When I told him what I was up to, he actually asked a couple questions about bird migration! This "helpful car stopping" happens to me a lot out in the boonies, but usually it is just a kindly person (not a cop) stopping to see if I and my car are all right. Most do not ask bird questions. I have been thinking of getting magnetic removable signs for my car's sides and back that say "BIRD WATCHER". Hey, maybe this could be another Cayuga Bird Club fundraiser: signs for our cars! Donna Donna L. Scott Lansing -Original Message- From: bounce-124477508-15001...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-124477508-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Magnus Fiskesjo Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University McGraw Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA E-mail: magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu, or: n...@cornell.edu Affiliations at Cornell University, WWW: Anthropology Department, https://anthropology.cornell.edu/anthropology-faculty Southeast Asia Program (SEAP), https://seap.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/faculty East Asia Program (EAP), http://eap.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/core-faculty CIAMS (Archaeology), https://archaeology.cornell.edu/faculty Cornell Institute for Public Affairs (CIPA), cipa.cornell.edu/academics/fieldfaculty.cfm Judith Reppy Institute for Peace and Conflict Studies (PACS), http://pacs.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/steering-committee _ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
What is their phone number? I go to the airport a lot and have never been accosted in this way. But then, we old white-haired (& white) women can get away with more than the rest of you! When I was over at Lick Street, Moravia/Locke on Sunday, stopped by the road counting my 115 Robins, a NY State Trooper stopped to "see if I was OK". When I told him what I was up to, he actually asked a couple questions about bird migration! This "helpful car stopping" happens to me a lot out in the boonies, but usually it is just a kindly person (not a cop) stopping to see if I and my car are all right. Most do not ask bird questions. I have been thinking of getting magnetic removable signs for my car's sides and back that say "BIRD WATCHER". Hey, maybe this could be another Cayuga Bird Club fundraiser: signs for our cars! Donna Donna L. Scott Lansing -Original Message- From: bounce-124477508-15001...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-124477508-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Magnus Fiskesjo Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University McGraw Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA E-mail: magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu, or: n...@cornell.edu Affiliations at Cornell University, WWW: Anthropology Department, https://anthropology.cornell.edu/anthropology-faculty Southeast Asia Program (SEAP), https://seap.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/faculty East Asia Program (EAP), http://eap.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/core-faculty CIAMS (Archaeology), https://archaeology.cornell.edu/faculty Cornell Institute for Public Affairs (CIPA), cipa.cornell.edu/academics/fieldfaculty.cfm Judith Reppy Institute for Peace and Conflict Studies (PACS), http://pacs.einaudi.cornell.edu/people/steering-committee _ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
ps. For undisturbed views of meadowlarks, I have a suggestion. There is a beautiful area along West Covert rd on the other side of the lake, part of the Finger Lakes NF, with plenty of meadowlarks (and later in Spring, bobolinks). Some of the best sightings I had of singing meadowlarks were in the fields north of W Covert, close to the intersection with "Lodi Covert Townline" rd. "West Covert Rd" is a dirt road with many potholes, 4 wheel drive is best. Clark and Lodi Covert Townline rd. are better paved. You can find it on the map here, https://ebird.org/checklist/S45339734 Both meadowlarks and bobolinks are plentiful around this area, though some fields get cut early so they're killed off. Not along W Covert, though, I don't think they do that there. Yrs. Magnus Fiskesjö n...@cornell.edu From: Marie P. Read Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:39 PM To: Magnus Fiskesjo; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning WH! Things are getting seriously weird. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA e-mail m...@cornell.edu Website: http://www.marieread.com AUTHOR of: Mastering Bird Photography: The Art, Craft, and Technique of Photographing Birds and Their Behavior https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/mastering-bird-photography/?REF=101/ From: bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Magnus Fiskesjo [magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning
WH! Things are getting seriously weird. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA e-mail m...@cornell.edu Website: http://www.marieread.com AUTHOR of: Mastering Bird Photography: The Art, Craft, and Technique of Photographing Birds and Their Behavior https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/mastering-bird-photography/?REF=101/ From: bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-124477508-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Magnus Fiskesjo [magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 5:36 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Ithaca airport Meadowlarks / with a warning This afternoon, Thursday 19 March 2020, traveling along Snyder Rd. at Ithaca Tompkins Airport to listen for meadowlarks singing. We did hear two different singing birds, and saw one singing from the airport fence. Then, the airport police caught up with us and wanted to know what we were doing! I told them we were out to listen for the beautiful song of the meadowlark. In the end, 6 police cars showed up (airport and county sheriff), writing down all my details and asking the same questions. What a story. In the end, the airport police said, if you give them a call beforehand and tell them you are coming, you are allowed to birdwatch. But NO cameras! I suggested to them to add that, to the NO TRESPASSING signs. --sincerely, Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
