RE: Re:[cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird/Sweazey Screech Owl not

2012-10-27 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
Having just reviewed the photos and the various resources this afternoon with 
Lee Ann van Leer, I feel some confidence in calling Marty's bird a hatch-year, 
or young female (hatched this year).  Lee Ann and I agree.

Hatch-year males and female Rufous Hummingbirds are very similar, and both look 
pretty much like adult females.  But the great photos that Jay posted (e.g., 
https://plus.google.com/photos/37855303614931880/albums/5787306381681058289/5800340308927234226)
 show the tail well enough to distinguish them.  Other parts of the plumage can 
help, but for Rufous/Allen's hummingbirds, it's all about the tail. Adult male 
Rufous have pointy rufous and black tail feathers, and that's obviously not 
what we're talking about here. The shiny green inner two sets of tail feathers 
rule out immature male, which has rufous at the base of them and pointy black 
tips. The very rounded nature of all of the tail feathers suggest that the bird 
is an immature and not an adult female, which has more pointy ones. The 
relatively broad outer tail feather is good for both female and the species ID 
of Rufous rather than Allen's.

The basic field guides (Sibley, National Geographic) don't contain enough 
information for aging and sexing hummingbirds.  Lee Ann was looking at Peter 
Pyle's Identification Guide, Part 1 (Slate Creek Press; the bible for banders). 
 My copy is at work, so I was looking primarily at Sheri Williamson's 
Hummingbird guide in the Peterson series (especially plates 24 and 25), and 
Steve Howell's Hummingbirds of North America.

I would also point interested folks to some old web pages on Rufous Hummingbird 
ID I still have at my Bad Photos of Good Birds site:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/rufous_hummingbird.htm
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/selashum02.htm

Best,

Kevin

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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:23 PM
To: Nancy W Dickinson
Cc: Donna Lee Scott; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: Re:[cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird/Sweazey Screech Owl not

Sibley gives dates only for the juvenile female plumage (like this bird) from 
June through November, and the subadult male plumage (similar to this bird 
except some rufous on the head and more red in the lower part of the throat) 
from August through December. We are in a period of overlap. If juvenile males 
and females are similar, maybe this could be a young male which has not yet 
begun to change to the subadult plumage. Actual information from more 
knowledgeable sources is welcome.

--Dave Nutter

On Oct 26, 2012, at 09:50 PM, Nancy W Dickinson 
n...@cornell.edumailto:n...@cornell.edu wrote:
Donna and all,

I assumed it to be a young male, but after seeing it, posting, and THEN 
reviewing Jay's posts as well as the Sibley Guide, I thought it was a female.  
But, at what point do they look different?  Whichever, it is very Rufous!

Nancy Dickinson

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 [bounce-69402010-3493...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Donna Scott 
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:29 PM
To: Candace Cornell; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re:[cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird/Sweazey Screech Owl not

So, is there now a MALE RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD at Schlabach's house on Powell Rd., 
Interlaken?
The last two people posting about the bird called it he and a stunning male.

Also, so far, no Screech Owl in the usual tree on Sweazey Rd., Lansing.

thanks,
Donna Scott
Lansing
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From: Candace Cornellmailto:cec...@gmail.com
To: cayugabirds-lmailto:cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird plus Muckland highlights

Nancy Ostman and I enjoyed a number of excellent views of the Rufous 
Hummingbird at the Schlabach home between 9:40-10:50 am. today. It is a 
stunning male, especially when the sunlight catches it just right. Many thanks 
to Marty and Mary Jean for opening their yard to birders!

We headed to Knox-Marcellus where there were thousands of Canada Geese, some 
Cackling Geese, 30+ Green-winged Teal, 17 Sandhill Cranes, 37 Great Blue Herons 
together in a group in the grass, and a lone Bald Eagle perched in a tree top. 
As soon as we got there we were treated to a  spectacular murmuration of 
starlings undulated across the marsh. Along the towpath, Fox and White-Crowned 
sparrows bathed in the puddles and foraged in the weeds. Another thousand or so 
Canada Geese also dominated the water into Puddler's Marsh. There they were 
joined by 150+ Snow Geese, more Cackling Geese, 20+ Northern Shovelers, 10+ 
Double-crested Cormorants, and numerous gulls. Two large plovers and a handful 
of peeps were too far away to ID. However, a flock of 25+ Pipits combed the 
water's edge up-close, affording terrific views

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird/Sweazey Screech Owl not

2012-10-26 Thread Donna Scott
So, is there now a MALE RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD at Schlabach's house on Powell Rd., 
Interlaken?
The last two people posting about the bird called it he and a stunning male.

Also, so far, no Screech Owl in the usual tree on Sweazey Rd., Lansing.

thanks,
Donna Scott
Lansing
  - Original Message - 
  From: Candace Cornell 
  To: cayugabirds-l 
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:09 PM
  Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Rufuous Hummingbird plus Muckland highlights


  Nancy Ostman and I enjoyed a number of excellent views of the Rufous 
Hummingbird at the Schlabach home between 9:40-10:50 am. today. It is a 
stunning male, especially when the sunlight catches it just right. Many thanks 
to Marty and Mary Jean for opening their yard to birders!



  We headed to Knox-Marcellus where there were thousands of Canada Geese, some 
Cackling Geese, 30+ Green-winged Teal, 17 Sandhill Cranes, 37 Great Blue Herons 
together in a group in the grass, and a lone Bald Eagle perched in a tree top. 
As soon as we got there we were treated to a  spectacular murmuration of 
starlings undulated across the marsh. Along the towpath, Fox and White-Crowned 
sparrows bathed in the puddles and foraged in the weeds. Another thousand or so 
Canada Geese also dominated the water into Puddler's Marsh. There they were 
joined by 150+ Snow Geese, more Cackling Geese, 20+ Northern Shovelers, 10+ 
Double-crested Cormorants, and numerous gulls. Two large plovers and a handful 
of peeps were too far away to ID. However, a flock of 25+ Pipits combed the 
water's edge up-close, affording terrific views of their foraging antics. Just 
as we were about to leave (13:00), the Bald Eagle soared overhead causing the 
entire flock of geese to take off in a panicked cacophony. 




  What a beautiful birding day!



  Candace Cornell
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