As per Anne’s message that fledgling Amer. Crows are out & about now, today I 
had my first ever “show” of a young A. Crow begging near a parent this morning.
It flapped its wings & made a series of begging calls and chased after a parent.

I scatter mixed bird feed, as well as dried-up used wet cat food & leftover 
cooked egg on the ground & the parents kept feeding the raucous fledge peanuts 
& other goodies!

Fun to watch the crowlet act like a titmouse fledgling!

Donna Scott
Kendal at Ithaca-377
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On Jul 1, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kevin C Packard <kc...@cornell.edu> wrote:


 Thank you Anne and Jared for sharing on this question.  I really like your 
suggestion Anne in that these could be juveniles begging. The calls were 
nasally but seemed a bit longer than the short 'uh' or 'uh-uh" fish crow calls 
I'm used to hearing around Cayuga Lake.

 As for the fish comment - well yes on the levity a little 🙂 Dead fish appear 
on the shoreline from time to time (big kills sporadically in the spring), but 
I don't know their feeding habits very well, so I assumed that they like being 
near waterbodies as it is place to scavenge dead fish or other creatures.

Cheers,

 Kevin



Kevin C Packard
166 Surge B
Department of Social Statistics, ILR School
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
607-255-8212



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From: anneb.cl...@gmail.com <anneb.cl...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 8:35 PM
To: Kevin C Packard <kc...@cornell.edu>
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fish crow vs American crow ID by merlin

Hi Kevin

I think I see why Merlin was back n forth.

 I think your audio is of a demanding American crow fledgling whose nasal begs 
come close to the slightly down slurred and nasal ‘simple version’ fish crow. 
If you listen toward the end of the recording , you can hear a quickening of 
the notes and a slightly ‘gobbling’ sound. That is the fledgling continuing to 
beg as it is getting fed—beg calls with a parental bill in its mouth and 
swallowing at the same time.

Lots of American Crow fledglings out or just coming out now.

I assume that the comment on fish in the pond was a bit of levity?  Maybe it is 
worth mentioning that Fish Crows don’t ‘fish’ Or particularly seek fish as far 
as I know. But they do seem to like shoreline or river edge scavenging, rather 
than foraging on lawns like American crows. And also, less popular with humans, 
they seem to be good at finding bird nests in trees.

Anyway—that’s my Id of the crow voice on your audio.

Best, Anne


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Kevin C Packard <kc...@cornell.edu> wrote:


Hi everyone,

 I was birding at Jennings Pond in Danby the other day and found a group of 
crows in trees by the pond which the Merlin app was giving as both fish crow 
and American crow.  How reliable do you all feel about distinguishing these two 
species using Merlin? I made some recordings that includes the cawing from what 
Merlin was saying as fish and American crow, but I've thought that here in 
Tompkins County that you will see fish crows primarily by Cayuga Lake. Jennings 
Pond is at 1,250 ft elevation, but it is one of the larger ponds in the county 
and has plenty of fish.  The eBird list (giving only American crow) is at

https://ebird.org/checklist/S143150602

 Thoughts are welcome!


 Kevin



Kevin C Packard
166 Surge B
Department of Social Statistics, ILR School
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
607-255-8212



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