RE:[cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
When crows get to chatting I always thought Parliament of Cows was more descriptive and it applies to Barred Owls also. There's a list of these alternate flock names somewhere that I'll try to find and post. John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: RE:[cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
Here are several lists of collective nouns for birds, the first appearing most comprehensive: http://www.nzbirds.com/more/nouns.html http://palomaraudubon.org/collective.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collective_nouns_for_birds Marty -Original Message- From: bounce-61037093-3494...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61037093-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John and Sue Gregoire Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:55 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE:[cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) When crows get to chatting I always thought Parliament of Cows was more descriptive and it applies to Barred Owls also. There's a list of these alternate flock names somewhere that I'll try to find and post. John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
I know this isn't Cayuga basin however: Yesterday, while in a Louisiana swamp, I watched a couple of blackbirds harassing a black vulture. One of the harassers actually alighted on the vulture's back and vulture surfed for about 200 meters. Couldn't tell the species for sure from a distance but lots of red-winged blackbirds and starlings around. Thought someone might be interested. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: I just watched a mob of crow, may be some forty + individuals. Initially, I thought they were chasing someone, but I could not see any targets. I checked if there was an owl, raven or a red-tail among them. But it did not seem like there were any. They just seemed like bunch of rowdy bullies going door to door to get someone. There seemed to be no leader either. They all flew randomly. Finally, they went behind the new Vet School diagnostic center and probably continued on to the plantations. Wonder what they were up to. Meena -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
Hi all, Thanks to all who wrote me back about Murder of crows. Actually, I think we should call them murderer crows :-) Now I am curious to find out why is called Murder of Crows Cheers Meena -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
It's a flock. Murder is an insulting term, poetic or not. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
Perhaps there is some logic behind it. Hm... While I do love the old poetic terms for animal gatherings, I tend to agree with Kevin. After all, many birds kill and eat other animals , so why crows should be singled out as the only murderers in the bird world I don't know. No-one seems to get bent out of shape when our noble Peregrine Falcon nails some hapless shorebird. Or our charismatic Great Horned Owl nails a bunch of baby Peregrines in their nest, come to think of it. How come THEY don't have such nicknames. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com Now on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography/104356136271727 From: bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Kevin J. McGowan [k...@cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:43 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) It's a flock. Murder is an insulting term, poetic or not. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
And the irony is the murders often form when (the crows fear that?) a crow is threatened... They don't go after prey in flocks; they group in response to THEIR predators, immediate or potential. Anne On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Marie P Read wrote: Perhaps there is some logic behind it. Hm... While I do love the old poetic terms for animal gatherings, I tend to agree with Kevin. After all, many birds kill and eat other animals , so why crows should be singled out as the only murderers in the bird world I don't know. No-one seems to get bent out of shape when our noble Peregrine Falcon nails some hapless shorebird. Or our charismatic Great Horned Owl nails a bunch of baby Peregrines in their nest, come to think of it. How come THEY don't have such nicknames. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com Now on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography/104356136271727 From: bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Kevin J. McGowan [k...@cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:43 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) It's a flock. Murder is an insulting term, poetic or not. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
One reason these odd collective nouns haven't been assigned to Peregrines or Great Horned Owls is just that those birds don't noticeably flock. Come to think of it, the connotations of flock are mostly unflattering too. Etymologically, a flock is a crowd of followers, whose collective behavior doesn't display individual initiative. Think of sheep, or rustic parishioners. Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
Anglo-Saxon poetry, often and not surprisingly about war, death, and mayhem, associates ravens with battlefields. While a raven is not a crow, the association of death (murder) with black carrion eaters is not too far-fetched. Linda From: bounce-61034112-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61034112-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Anne Clark Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:49 PM To: Marie P Read Cc: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) And the irony is the murders often form when (the crows fear that?) a crow is threatened... They don't go after prey in flocks; they group in response to THEIR predators, immediate or potential. Anne On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Marie P Read wrote: Perhaps there is some logic behind it. Hm... While I do love the old poetic terms for animal gatherings, I tend to agree with Kevin. After all, many birds kill and eat other animals , so why crows should be singled out as the only murderers in the bird world I don't know. No-one seems to get bent out of shape when our noble Peregrine Falcon nails some hapless shorebird. Or our charismatic Great Horned Owl nails a bunch of baby Peregrines in their nest, come to think of it. How come THEY don't have such nicknames. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com Now on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography/104356136271727 From: bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Kevin J. McGowan [k...@cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:43 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) It's a flock. Murder is an insulting term, poetic or not. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?)
The Twa Corbies: where shall we go and dine today, oh? Upon the battle field! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: Anglo-Saxon poetry, often and not surprisingly about war, death, and mayhem, associates ravens with battlefields. While a raven is not a crow, the association of death (murder) with black carrion eaters is not too far-fetched. Linda From: bounce-61034112-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61034112-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Anne Clark Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:49 PM To: Marie P Read Cc: Kevin J. McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) And the irony is the murders often form when (the crows fear that?) a crow is threatened... They don't go after prey in flocks; they group in response to THEIR predators, immediate or potential. Anne On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Marie P Read wrote: Perhaps there is some logic behind it. Hm... While I do love the old poetic terms for animal gatherings, I tend to agree with Kevin. After all, many birds kill and eat other animals , so why crows should be singled out as the only murderers in the bird world I don't know. No-one seems to get bent out of shape when our noble Peregrine Falcon nails some hapless shorebird. Or our charismatic Great Horned Owl nails a bunch of baby Peregrines in their nest, come to think of it. How come THEY don't have such nicknames. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com Now on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography/104356136271727 From: bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-61033880-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Kevin J. McGowan [k...@cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:43 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) It's a flock. Murder is an insulting term, poetic or not. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-61033781-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Wobus Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:25 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Cc: John Wobus Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mob of crow (or is it called death of crow?) Meena wrote: (or is it called death of crow?) Murder of crows is the old poetic phrase. Perhaps there is some logic behind it. John -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http