Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-23 Thread david nicosia
Respectfully, please stop blaming this on climate change. This is weather, not climate. Rapid swings in temperature are actually common in the western/central U.S. This one just happened at a bad time for birds. The records are full of major temperature changes in the western U.S and Plains

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-22 Thread John Luther Cisne
nell" Date: Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:34 AM To: John , David Nicosia , "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality Please don't take your conversation off line as I find your various points of view on this issue fascinating. Ca

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-18 Thread khmo
To: "Jeff Gerbracht" Cc: "cayugabirds-l" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 3:06:07 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality The huge migration in our area last night and this mass mortality event in the southwest of what are apparently emaciated birds has s

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-18 Thread Linda Orkin
t depict. >>> >>> - - Dave Nutter >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:41 PM, John Luther Cisne >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Record cold over North America is indeed consistent with global warming. >>>> It

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-18 Thread Jeff Gerbracht
at Arctic Basin warms not only by importing >> warm air from the south, mainly over oceans, but also by exporting cold air >> to the south, mainly over continents. Export of air from the north makes >> space for import of air from the south, so to speak. For now, at least, >>

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-18 Thread Candace E. Cornell
> > *Cc: *"atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L < > cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > *Subject: *Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality > > > > Apparently you don’t know that the old Department of Atmospheric Sciences > merged with the Department of Earth and At

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-17 Thread David Nicosia
For now, at least, > the export of cold air from the Arctic is concentrated over North America. > > > > Certain of my colleagues in the Department Earth and Atmospheric Sciences > will be able to give everyone a far better and more detailed explanation. > > > > >

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-17 Thread Dave Nutter
ailed explanation. > > > From: on behalf of "Kevin J. > McGowan" > Reply-To: "Kevin J. McGowan" > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:03 PM > To: david nicosia , Peter Saracino > , Jody Enck > Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com"

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-17 Thread John Luther Cisne
UGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality Apparently you don’t know that the old Department of Atmospheric Sciences merged with the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences years ago. EAS continues to offer the former CALS department’s Atmospheric Sciences major.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-17 Thread John Luther Cisne
To: "Kevin J. McGowan" , Peter Saracino , Jody Enck , John Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality Let's get back to birds. This is a birding listserve. I have studied this at length and disagree. I do believe in man

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
PM To: david nicosia , Peter Saracino , Jody Enck Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality   “Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “   Why not? Global warming doesn’t mean warming happens al

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread John Luther Cisne
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:03 PM To: david nicosia , Peter Saracino , Jody Enck Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality “Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “ Why not? Global warming doesn’t

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
  From: bounce-124948138-3493...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of david nicosia Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:46 PM To: Peter Saracino ; Jody Enck Cc: atvaw...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality   The western U.S has a history of extreme t

RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperature occurred in the winter. What

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperatureoccurred in the winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Jody Enck
Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article. Additional information has been forthcoming recently. Hypotheses include movements related to smoky conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Peter Saracino
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom wrote: > I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico. I > read a CNN report. Is there any new information on

[cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-15 Thread Tom
I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico. I read a CNN report. Is there any new information on the cause? They’re talking hundreds of thousands, even millions. Tom V Sent from my iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: