Hi All,
Reuben Stoltzfus called me yesterday evening and clarified a few points about
his experience with mowing v grassland birds.
He agrees with all the folks who said that walking through fields to look for
nests is not a good idea due to ineffectiveness and creating paths for
predators.
day, June 21, 2021, 12:59
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
I totally respect Anne’s experienced perspective. It would be a big challenge
to even approximately locate any nest without disrupting the crop. Also it’s
possible that Reuben’s mowing machinery was slowe
y not follow the Bobolink Project,pay
> the farmers and whoever,to mow later,10 dollars apiece or some sum,giv
> En to farmer will do wonders.
>
> Hollis
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> From: Geo Kloppel
> Date: 6/21/21 8:
...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re:
[cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Paying farmers: It's worth considering paying
farmers to manage farmland to accommodate nesting birds, but it
isn't $10 per farmer, farmers were paid $50/acre for the 2019
growing season by the Bobolink Project
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> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
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> Hi Anne,
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> I wasn’t thinking of entering the fields that had been pre-selected
> for early mowing, nor searching for nests. Rather, I was wondering if
&
I totally respect Anne’s experienced perspective. It would be a big challenge
to even approximately locate any nest without disrupting the crop. Also it’s
possible that Reuben’s mowing machinery was slower, quieter, & more
maneuverable than what most farmers use, lending itself to guidance
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b Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Hi Anne,
I wasn’t thinking of entering the fields that had been pre-selected for early
mowing, nor searching for nests. Rather, I was wondering if in some way those
fields could
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
I’ve been musing along a different line, wondering if a preemptive approach is
possible.
It ta
Hi Anne,
I wasn’t thinking of entering the fields that had been pre-selected for early
mowing, nor searching for nests. Rather, I was wondering if in some way those
fields could be rendered unappealing just before nesting begins, at the
critical moment* when the sociable and polygamous
Speaking as someone who spent years locating redwing nests, I think this is a
mountain not a molehill. Locating nests in grassland is HARD on purpose. Birds
make it that way. Feeding females do t go down to their nests. They drop and
walk to the nest. One makes paths tromping through the
I’ve been musing along a different line, wondering if a preemptive approach is
possible.
It takes time to mow the big fields that grassland nesters favor, and the hay
farmer can’t mow all of them simultaneously. The work of haying season has to
begin somewhere, and start early enough that the
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 6:38 PM Nancy Cusumano
wrote:
> I have been thinking about this too. And to me the issue is, what is in it
> for the farmer? If we are going to ask them to cut their fields up to go
> around nesting sites, is the bird conservation issue enough for them? What
> is the
I have been thinking about this too. And to me the issue is, what is in it
for the farmer? If we are going to ask them to cut their fields up to go
around nesting sites, is the bird conservation issue enough for them? What
is the carrot, I guess is my question. I don't know the answer.
Also, if
Thanks, Dave.
As Cayuga Bird Club I've been wondering what, if anything, we could do
about the situation. One dimension would be outreach and education and
increasing general awareness, for which CAC chair Jody has stepped up to
solicit volunteers, thanks! But I'd also toyed with a pipedream idea
e some of the passion expressed today will have a positive impact.
>
> KEN
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>
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> Ken Rosenberg (he/him/his)
> Applied Conservation Scientist
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> American Bird Conservancy
> Fellow, Atkinson Center for a Sustainable Futu
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> Ken Rosenberg (he/him/his)
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> Applied Conservation Scientist
>
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>
> American Bird Conservancy
>
> Fellow, Atkinson Center for a Sustainable Future
>
> k...@cornell.edu
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> Wk: 607-254-2412
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> Cell: 607-342-4594
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Appreciative of all the concern,
Rachel and Thor
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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:32 PM
To: Geo Kloppel ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Hi
, 2021 at 9:53 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
I was about to say that anyone who wants to discuss the matter cogently with
actual farmers and hayfield managers would do well to consult the Resources
page on the Cayuga Bird Club website, where this link
I was about to say that anyone who wants to discuss the matter cogently with
actual farmers and hayfield managers would do well to consult the Resources
page on the Cayuga Bird Club website, where this link lives:
Cornell Cooperative Extension has published a very helpful document on Hayfield
I feel so sad about this.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:39 PM Alicia Plotkin wrote:
> More generally, another problem are policies by NYS Parks and the Wildlife
> Management areas. Grassland areas under their control increasingly seem to
> be rented out for farming. For example, part of Willard
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>>> I don’t think that’s true. Birds, nests, eggs, and their parts all come
>>> under protection from the MBTA. If feathers are covered, nestlings are
>>> covered.
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>>>
>>> Kevin
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>>>
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Interlaken, NY
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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:07 PM
To: Linda Orkin ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone's attention. In a nutshell
or decades. Why
>>> is that? Anyone know?
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:27 PM, Kevin J. McGowan
>>> wrote:
>>> I don’t think that’s true. Birds, nests, eggs, and their parts all come
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Young nestling birds aren't protected by the migratory bird act. I guess that
is true since this has been going on for decades.
nestlings are covered.
>
> Kevin
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> nicosia
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To: darlingtonbets ; Nancy Cusumano
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Cc: Linda Orkin ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Young nestling birds aren't
; Nancy Cusumano
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Cc: Linda Orkin ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.
Young nestling birds aren't protected by the migratory bird act. I guess that
is true since this has been going on for decades. Wish they were.
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That is a critical piece that has made it hard for me, on Hile School rd, to
help the farmers meet me more than half way. I end up saying after the 4th, but
the later the better.
After years of redwing work in and around the pond units in the 1990s, our
usual pattern was a sharp decline in
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Ken and all,
Thank you so much for this clear, concise summary
of this issue. I have some friends I am trying to
convince to not mow too soon, so will use your words there, too.
Can anyone tell me what is a "safe" date for
mowing? Until when should I ask them to delay?
Thanks,
Sandy Podulka
into the Ithaca Journal.
Betsy
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Original message From: Nancy Cusumano
Date: 6/15/21 4:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Kenneth V.
Rosenberg" Cc: Linda Orkin ,
CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l]
Fields being mowed.
Ken,
May I use
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Fields being mowed. Ken, May I use your words in my letters? I think I will go
straight to the top with this issue. I will paraphrase...NancyOn Tue, Jun 15,
2021 at 4:07 PM Kenneth V. Rosenberg wrote:
Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In
Original message From: Melissa Groo Date:
6/15/21 4:53 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Nancy Cusumano
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L , "Kenneth V. Rosenberg"
, Linda Orkin Subject: Re:
[cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed. Also, if anyone would get photos of the
distressed parents flyin
Also, if anyone would get photos of the distressed parents flying/hovering
in the same frame as the mowers, those photos would go a long way too. (I
would volunteer but I’m out of town right now.)
The photos could be used in an article or editorial of some kind, that
needs to be written.
Melissa
More generally, another problem are policies by NYS Parks and the
Wildlife Management areas. Grassland areas under their control
increasingly seem to be rented out for farming. For example, part of
Willard Wildlife Management area that 25 yrs ago was in grass that only
got mowed in late
Ken,
May I use your words in my letters? I think I will go straight to the top
with this issue.
I will paraphrase...
Nancy
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:07 PM Kenneth V. Rosenberg
wrote:
> Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In a
> nutshell, what is happening today in
Ken,
This is useful information. And thank you for your serious efforts.
I sometimes think that what we need to do is bring this to a wider public.
Some photos of trashed nests would go a long way to making the point. Of
course Cornell wants to look good while doing little (consider their
Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In a nutshell,
what is happening today in those fields, repeated over the entire U.S., is the
primary cause of continued steep declines in Bobolink and other grassland bird
populations.
Last year, because of the delays in mowing
I don't know anything about why fields are mowed, or when, but I've noticed
this year and last that the far Mineah Road fields have been mowed when
Bobolinks are nesting. I believe that's Cornell land.
Sheila
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Linda Orkin wrote:
> After a couple year hiatus in
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