Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

2021-02-22 Thread Brad Walker 
If you do find dead birds like this (if they're fresh and not freeze-dried
or damaged) you can store them in your freezer in plastic bag so they can
be donated to the Cornell Museum of Vertebrates the Cornell Lab of
Ornithology (when they eventually are open for the public again). I'm not
sure if there's any system in place currently for accepting specimens. If
you decide to store one, you should put a little slip of paper in the bag
that says the date, location, and how the bird died (or how you found it).
You don't have to worry about identifying the bird if you don't know what
it is. And freezer bags are always better, since they're made for keeping
things safe in a freezer.

--Brad

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:29 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> Over a month ago, I found one dead Siskin under my backyard feeders.
> 16 others seemed fine & later moved on to somewhere else.
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Wesley M. Hochachka  wrote:
>
> If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first
> reaction is that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you
> might have observed these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up
> near the bird feeder at some point before you found the dead bird on the
> ground.
>
> Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are
> an unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.
> Taking down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further
> transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start
> congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the
> area.
>
> Wesley Hochachka
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder
>
> Hello all,
>
> In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a
> feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent
> injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the
> feeders clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did
> not accept our request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept
> two of them in a sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets
> outside our windows to prevent birds from hitting them.
>
> Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from
> happening again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10
> years we’ve lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed
> birds.
>
> Many thanks,
> Patrizia Sione
>
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

2021-02-22 Thread Donna Lee Scott 
Over a month ago, I found one dead Siskin under my backyard feeders.
16 others seemed fine & later moved on to somewhere else.

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Wesley M. Hochachka 
mailto:w...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first reaction is 
that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you might have observed 
these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up near the bird feeder at 
some point before you found the dead bird on the ground.

Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are an 
unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.  Taking 
down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further 
transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start 
congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the area.

Wesley Hochachka




-Original Message-
From: 
bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu
 
mailto:bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

Hello all,

In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a 
feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent 
injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the feeders 
clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did not accept our 
request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept two of them in a 
sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets outside our windows to 
prevent birds from hitting them.

Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from happening 
again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10 years we’ve 
lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed birds.

Many thanks,
Patrizia Sione



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RE:[cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

2021-02-22 Thread Wesley M. Hochachka 
If the dead birds were siskins, redpolls, or goldfinches, my first reaction is 
that the birds died from salmonellosis, and potentially you might have observed 
these birds sitting motionless and incredibly puffed up near the bird feeder at 
some point before you found the dead bird on the ground.

Salmonellosis outbreaks, which particularly hit siskins and redpolls, are an 
unfortunately predictable corollary of irruptions of these species.  Taking 
down your thistle feeder to disperse the birds might reduce further 
transmission, but it's hard to tell because the birds could just start 
congregating (maybe in larger numbers) at some other bird feeder in the area.

Wesley Hochachka




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From: bounce-125406737-3494...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Patrizia Sione
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:30 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

Hello all,

In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a 
feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent 
injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the feeders 
clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did not accept our 
request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept two of them in a 
sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets outside our windows to 
prevent birds from hitting them.  

Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from happening 
again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10 years we’ve 
lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed birds.

Many thanks,
Patrizia Sione



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Dead birds under the thistle feeder

2021-02-22 Thread Michael Ludgate 
There have some been problems with pesticides in birdfeed in the past
https://www.audubon.org/news/pesticides-bird-seed-scotts-miracle-gro-fined-125-million

Cheers,
-Mike :-)

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Quarantine photos; mostly from near our home https://adobe.ly/3fLCiU3



On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:30 AM Patrizia Sione  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> In the course of the past 10 days, we have discovered a dead bird under a
> feeder in three separate occasions, the latest this morning.  No apparent
> injury.  The thistle is fresh (it goes pretty quickly) and we keep the
> feeders clean and sanitized. We called the Cornell hospital but they did
> not accept our request to have a necropsy conducted on the birds (we kept
> two of them in a sealed freezer bag  outside).  We have decals and nets
> outside our windows to prevent birds from hitting them.
>
> Any ideas about what could be causing this and how to prevent it from
> happening again?  It is the first time it has ever happened to us in the 10
> years we’ve lived in our present location, and all this time we’ve fed
> birds.
>
> Many thanks,
> Patrizia Sione
>
>
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