Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Karen 
 Hi Folks,
   Protecting the Fueertes Arch is a fine idea.
   Similarly, the Bird Club arch in the woods at Stewart Park is decaying, and 
its renovation would be another fine project.
John Confer
On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 04:49:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:   

 I’m so glad to hear this, Chris. Rescuing (and finding a home for) the Fuertes 
Arch would be a great project for the Cayuga Bird Club. After all, Fuertes was 
the club’s first president and served from its founding in 1913 until his death 
in 1927. 😊
Tim

On Oct 20, 2025, at 3:41 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes  
wrote:



 After an inquiry to the Camp Barton Staff Alumni Association (CBSAA), I was 
pleased to learn that all scouting-related relics from Camp Barton, including 
the Louis Agassiz Fuertes Arch, are currently in safe/protected storage.
If anyone is interested in facilitating further conversations with the CBSAA 
concerning preservation and future display of the arch, please reach out to me 
off-line and I’ll connect you with them.
Sincerely,Chris T-H

On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40, Betsy Hutchings  wrote:
Are there any photos of the arch?
On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:

That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:



This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:

In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .  

 

I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”

 

When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared. 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Nancy Tonachel Gabriel 
Thanks to all for reclaiming not just the commemorative arch, but more 
importantly, the reputation of Louis Agassiz Fuertes. That conflating of him 
with Louis Agassiz of Harvard needs to be roundly corrected! (His descendants 
still live in Ithaca.)
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call or text 607 339 7123





On Oct 20, 2025, at 4:49 PM, Tim Gallagher 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I’m so glad to hear this, Chris. Rescuing (and finding a home for) the Fuertes 
Arch would be a great project for the Cayuga Bird Club. After all, Fuertes was 
the club’s first president and served from its founding in 1913 until his death 
in 1927. 😊

Tim

On Oct 20, 2025, at 3:41 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

 After an inquiry to the Camp Barton Staff Alumni Association (CBSAA), I was 
pleased to learn that all scouting-related relics from Camp Barton, including 
the Louis Agassiz Fuertes Arch, are currently in safe/protected storage.

If anyone is interested in facilitating further conversations with the CBSAA 
concerning preservation and future display of the arch, please reach out to me 
off-line and I’ll connect you with them.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H


On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40, Betsy Hutchings 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Are there any photos of the arch?

On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page 
mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:


In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .



I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”



When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Tim Gallagher 
I’m so glad to hear this, Chris. Rescuing (and finding a home for) the Fuertes 
Arch would be a great project for the Cayuga Bird Club. After all, Fuertes was 
the club’s first president and served from its founding in 1913 until his death 
in 1927. 😊

Tim

On Oct 20, 2025, at 3:41 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes  
wrote:

 After an inquiry to the Camp Barton Staff Alumni Association (CBSAA), I was 
pleased to learn that all scouting-related relics from Camp Barton, including 
the Louis Agassiz Fuertes Arch, are currently in safe/protected storage.

If anyone is interested in facilitating further conversations with the CBSAA 
concerning preservation and future display of the arch, please reach out to me 
off-line and I’ll connect you with them.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H


On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40, Betsy Hutchings  wrote:

Are there any photos of the arch?

On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:


That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:


In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .



I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”



When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
After an inquiry to the Camp Barton Staff Alumni Association (CBSAA), I was 
pleased to learn that all scouting-related relics from Camp Barton, including 
the Louis Agassiz Fuertes Arch, are currently in safe/protected storage.

If anyone is interested in facilitating further conversations with the CBSAA 
concerning preservation and future display of the arch, please reach out to me 
off-line and I’ll connect you with them.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H


On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40, Betsy Hutchings  wrote:

Are there any photos of the arch?

On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:


That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:


In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .



I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”



When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Donna Lee Scott 
Can we get back the Fuertes arch from the State Parks office, or from whatever 
municipal group has it?

There might be a place for it near SSWs.

Donna Scott
Kendal at Ithaca-377
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On Oct 20, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Tim Gallagher  wrote:

I just posted a photo of the Fuertes Arch on the Cayuga Bird Club Facebook page.

On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40 PM, Betsy Hutchings  wrote:


Are there any photos of the arch?

On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:


That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:


In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .



I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”



When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

Shelley Page
she/they/ki

313-550-1437
261 Coddington Road Apt. B
Ithaca, New York 14850

https://uuma.zoom.us/j/2065380867

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Tim Gallagher 
I just posted a photo of the Fuertes Arch on the Cayuga Bird Club Facebook page.

On Oct 20, 2025, at 12:40 PM, Betsy Hutchings  wrote:


Are there any photos of the arch?

On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:


That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:


In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .



I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”



When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

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2025-10-20 Thread Betsy Hutchings 
 Are there any photos of the arch?
On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 12:11:28 PM EDT, Tim Gallagher 
 wrote:  
 
 That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at 
a dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:



This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:

In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .  

 

I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”

 

When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared. 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Arch update

2025-10-20 Thread Tim Gallagher 
That’s terrible. I sure hope the Fuertes Arch didn’t end up as scrap metal at a 
dump someplace. 🙁

On Oct 20, 2025, at 9:58 AM, Shelley Page  wrote:


This is a follow up from the mention in my Thursday Birding Meetup recap about 
the fate of the Fuertes Arch at Frontenac Point state park, formerly Camp 
Barton.  Scott Sutcliffe has some insight and info to share and has given me 
permission to share his thoughts with you.  Here are his words:

In December of 2024, I received a phone call from a reliable Trumansburg friend 
who kindly notified me there was a move afoot to remove the Fuertes Arch from 
the Camp Barton property because of misinformation shared with NYS Parks that 
Louis Agassiz Fuertes was a white supremacist and that the Arch should be 
removed.  Fuertes was nothing of the sort – he was a champion of humanity.  It 
appears Louis Agassiz Fuertes was mistakenly confused with Louis Agassiz, a 
19th century scientist who defined white supremacy .

I immediately sent corrective information to NYS Parks, and soon thereafter 
received a reply:  “the actual physical arch needed to be removed from the 
property as it incorporated icons related to the Boy Scouts that are no longer 
appropriate given that the property is now New York State Parks property.”

When I next visited the park in the spring, the Fuertes Arch had disappeared.

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"All that you touch you Change. All that you Change changes you. The only 
lasting truth is Change. God is Change." Octavia Butler, The Parable of the 
Sower
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