Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today
Check Sibley p 72 - has a picture under Black DuckxMallard Hybrid. On 4/8/2014 6:17 PM, Jason Huck wrote: Hi All, I am reaching out to the odd duck (although this one isn't overly odd) experts to identify this mystery mallard that I discovered at this morning Stewart Park along the creek (golf course bank). Domestic? Call duck? Hybrid? If so with what? The face struck me at first as gadwall, but none of the other features seem to be there. Not much American Black Duck either... Here is some digiscoped video and photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/sets/72157643669301415/ Thanks, Jason Huck -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today
Good guess, these often are confusing, but this bird looks more to me like birds we call intersex, apparently often older female birds that have increased testosterone production and end up developing male-like characteristics. Others might be able to shed more light on this phenomenon. This guy/gal looks may be the same one that was around this winter down near Wegmans: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GPHW40BXyLHT9sZzY5uMMdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SUtTd_O8tIfUR1lN30eWqdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Judith W. Jones j...@cornell.edu wrote: Check Sibley p 72 - has a picture under Black DuckxMallard Hybrid. On 4/8/2014 6:17 PM, Jason Huck wrote: Hi All, I am reaching out to the odd duck (although this one isn't overly odd) experts to identify this mystery mallard that I discovered at this morning Stewart Park along the creek (golf course bank). Domestic? Call duck? Hybrid? If so with what? The face struck me at first as gadwall, but none of the other features seem to be there. Not much American Black Duck either... Here is some digiscoped video and photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/sets/72157643669301415/ Thanks, Jason Huck -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today
A term we don't see around here these days, at least very often is Cayuga duck. We found that in common usage recently Ocean Cty, NJ. Looked like Black x Mallrd to me but there was/is such a domestic cross that originated somewhere on/near Cayuga Lake. Anyone have any solid info on that? John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Wed, April 9, 2014 10:04, Jay McGowan wrote: Good guess, these often are confusing, but this bird looks more to me like birds we call intersex, apparently often older female birds that have increased testosterone production and end up developing male-like characteristics. Others might be able to shed more light on this phenomenon. This guy/gal looks may be the same one that was around this winter down near Wegmans: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GPHW40BXyLHT9sZzY5uMMdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SUtTd_O8tIfUR1lN30eWqdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Judith W. Jones j...@cornell.edu wrote: Check Sibley p 72 - has a picture under Black DuckxMallard Hybrid. On 4/8/2014 6:17 PM, Jason Huck wrote: Hi All, I am reaching out to the odd duck (although this one isn't overly odd) experts to identify this mystery mallard that I discovered at this morning Stewart Park along the creek (golf course bank). Domestic? Call duck? Hybrid? If so with what? The face struck me at first as gadwall, but none of the other features seem to be there. Not much American Black Duck either... Here is some digiscoped video and photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/sets/72157643669301415/ Thanks, Jason Huck -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today
Here's information on the Cayuga duck from the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy: http://www.livestockconservancy.org/index.php/heritage/internal/cayuga I know of several small farm flocks in the Ithaca area. -Liz Brown -Original Message- From: bounce-114244248-25000...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-114244248-25000...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John and Sue Gregoire Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:06 PM To: Jay McGowan Cc: Judith W. Jones; Jason Huck; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today A term we don't see around here these days, at least very often is Cayuga duck. We found that in common usage recently Ocean Cty, NJ. Looked like Black x Mallrd to me but there was/is such a domestic cross that originated somewhere on/near Cayuga Lake. Anyone have any solid info on that? John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Wed, April 9, 2014 10:04, Jay McGowan wrote: Good guess, these often are confusing, but this bird looks more to me like birds we call intersex, apparently often older female birds that have increased testosterone production and end up developing male-like characteristics. Others might be able to shed more light on this phenomenon. This guy/gal looks may be the same one that was around this winter down near Wegmans: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GPHW40BXyLHT9sZzY5uMMdMTjNZETYmy PJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SUtTd_O8tIfUR1lN30eWqdMTjNZETYmy PJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Judith W. Jones j...@cornell.edu wrote: Check Sibley p 72 - has a picture under Black DuckxMallard Hybrid. On 4/8/2014 6:17 PM, Jason Huck wrote: Hi All, I am reaching out to the odd duck (although this one isn't overly odd) experts to identify this mystery mallard that I discovered at this morning Stewart Park along the creek (golf course bank). Domestic? Call duck? Hybrid? If so with what? The face struck me at first as gadwall, but none of the other features seem to be there. Not much American Black Duck either... Here is some digiscoped video and photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/sets/72157643669301415/ Thanks, Jason Huck -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurati onLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis t.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurati onLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis t.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave .htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today
One other nice resource for mystery mallards is this quick one-page summary of commonly encountered domestic duck varieties, with lots of pictures: http://1birds.com/manky-mallards-domestic-feral-or-just-plain-odd-mallards.htm jesse On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Liz Brown e...@cornell.edu wrote: Here's information on the Cayuga duck from the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy: http://www.livestockconservancy.org/index.php/heritage/internal/cayuga I know of several small farm flocks in the Ithaca area. -Liz Brown -Original Message- From: bounce-114244248-25000...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: bounce-114244248-25000...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John and Sue Gregoire Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:06 PM To: Jay McGowan Cc: Judith W. Jones; Jason Huck; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Mystery Mallard - Stewart Park today A term we don't see around here these days, at least very often is Cayuga duck. We found that in common usage recently Ocean Cty, NJ. Looked like Black x Mallrd to me but there was/is such a domestic cross that originated somewhere on/near Cayuga Lake. Anyone have any solid info on that? John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Wed, April 9, 2014 10:04, Jay McGowan wrote: Good guess, these often are confusing, but this bird looks more to me like birds we call intersex, apparently often older female birds that have increased testosterone production and end up developing male-like characteristics. Others might be able to shed more light on this phenomenon. This guy/gal looks may be the same one that was around this winter down near Wegmans: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GPHW40BXyLHT9sZzY5uMMdMTjNZETYmy PJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SUtTd_O8tIfUR1lN30eWqdMTjNZETYmy PJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Judith W. Jones j...@cornell.edu wrote: Check Sibley p 72 - has a picture under Black DuckxMallard Hybrid. On 4/8/2014 6:17 PM, Jason Huck wrote: Hi All, I am reaching out to the odd duck (although this one isn't overly odd) experts to identify this mystery mallard that I discovered at this morning Stewart Park along the creek (golf course bank). Domestic? Call duck? Hybrid? If so with what? The face struck me at first as gadwall, but none of the other features seem to be there. Not much American Black Duck either... Here is some digiscoped video and photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69504362@N03/sets/72157643669301415/ Thanks, Jason Huck -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurati onLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis t.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurati onLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis t.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave .htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group
