Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
Thanks Mike and Dave. Mike, that chart is very illuminating. I had no idea there were that many species. Amber seems a good way to describe what I saw as red. It seems a monumental brain task to sort out all the flashing going on but just having these different parameters in mind would help you to see better. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linda, In order for a Doppler shift to noticeably change the color of light that much, the firefly would have to be traveling thousands of miles an hour! It may be that what you are seeing are multiple species of firefly. The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern. Types Of Fireflies Flash Chart Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes) These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various firefly species. -Mike On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
Think it is a good year for fireflies!. Jerseybirds had a post of a great display last week down in NJ. I also had one of the best displays in years in my yard in McGraw. Tom Fernandes McGraw.NY From: Linda Orkin Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:28 AM To: Mike Pitzrick Cc: CAYUGABIRDS- L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight Thanks Mike and Dave. Mike, that chart is very illuminating. I had no idea there were that many species. Amber seems a good way to describe what I saw as red. It seems a monumental brain task to sort out all the flashing going on but just having these different parameters in mind would help you to see better. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linda, In order for a Doppler shift to noticeably change the color of light that much, the firefly would have to be traveling thousands of miles an hour! It may be that what you are seeing are multiple species of firefly. The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern. Types Of Fireflies Flash Chart Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes) These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various firefly species. -Mike On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7764 - Release Date: 06/29/14 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board, a participant (whose name email I have omitted here) asked Linda's question, and the project leader replied: In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three flashes and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked RED to me. Is that possible? .:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow, yellow green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red firefly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the way people may see colors differently or environmental conditions, you won't see a red firefly. * * * I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a lot of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't learned to discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined time of a Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe I'll have more legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the night. --Dave Nutter On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote: The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern. Types Of Fireflies Flash Chart Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes) These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various firefly species. -Mike On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
Hi Dave, People do perceive colors differently due to both biological capacity and training. This is an area of active research. Regarding biological capacity, most people have three types of color receptors in their eyes, each of which is most sensitive to a single color: red, green, or blue. Some people, mostly male, are completely or partially color blind, meaning that one or more types of color receptor are partially or completely disabled color receptors, resulting in diminished capacity to discriminate differences in color. Recently it was discovered that some females have four types of color receptors in their eyes, giving them the potential to distinguish more colors than is usual in humans. This article in Discover magazine, Humans with Super Human Vision http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision, explains. If you are interested in testing your ability to discriminate colors, try out this Color Test http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge. If you'd like to see if you are color blind, check out Free Colorblindness Test http://www.colour-blindness.com/colour-blindness-tests/. Note that these online tests are not 100% reliable, due to variation in computer monitors. By the way, this discussion is pretty far afield from the usual content of CAYUGABIRDS-L, and I'm surprised no one has complained yet. People who would enjoy participating in a similar email list with broader scope may be interested in NATURAL-HISTORY-L. Instructions for joining a Cornell email list can be found in Join an E-list http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/elist/howto/user/join.cfm. -Mike On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board, a participant (whose name email I have omitted here) asked Linda's question, and the project leader replied: In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three flashes and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked RED to me. Is that possible? .:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow, yellow green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red firefly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the way people may see colors differently or environmental conditions, you won't see a red firefly. * * * I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a lot of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't learned to discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined time of a Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe I'll have more legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the night. --Dave Nutter On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote: The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern. Types Of Fireflies https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/types_of_fireflies Flash Chart https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/flash_chart Virtual Habitat https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/virtual_habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes) These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch https://legacy.mos.org/fireflywatch/, which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various firefly species. -Mike On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Human freedom involves our capacity to pause between the stimulus and response and, in that pause, to choose the one response toward which we wish to throw our weight. The capacity to create ourselves, based upon this freedom, is inseparable from consciousness or self-awareness. -Rollo May -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2)
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
On the other hand it could have been s very tiny low-flying plane. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: That's a great website for a neat project, Mike! On the discussion board, a participant (whose name email I have omitted here) asked Linda's question, and the project leader replied: In my June 1, 2014 report I reported an individual flying with three flashes and reported it as orange because red was not an option. It looked RED to me. Is that possible? .:Don Salvatore - 6/16/2014 1:20 pm Firefly colors are listed as yellow, yellow green, green, orange, amber and blue. I have never heard of a red firefly. But that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Or that because of the way people may see colors differently or environmental conditions, you won't see a red firefly. * * * I still have only seen what I'd describe as yellow-green fireflies, but a lot of them. Maybe that's all there are at my house, or maybe I haven't learned to discern the colors. I certainly haven't put in the disciplined time of a Firefly Watch participant, but I'm considering it. Then maybe I'll have more legitimate replies when people ask about red flashes in the night. --Dave Nutter On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Mike Pitzrick mpitzr...@gmail.com wrote: The Museum of Science in Boston has published some web pages with information about how to identify fireflies using their flash color and pattern. Types Of Fireflies Flash Chart Virtual Habitat (interactive tool to help you learn to identify firefly flashes) These web pages are part of a citizen science project called Firefly Watch, which is designed to find out more about the distribution of the various firefly species. -Mike On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote: It is wild out there...flashing of several kinds, low and high in trees. Give that it is hard to see birds right now, it is well worth a look outside for this pre-4th display. Vic Lamoureux put a similar alert out for Broome, on the Bluewing list. Apparently this is THE night so far if you are a firefly. anne -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not birds-but FIREFLIES tonight
Some stars look slightly orange or blue, but the fireflies all look green to me. I think the red flashes are airplanes. Seriously, I know there are different species of fireflies and they use different codes of flashes, but I don't know about different colors. I'm guessing they all use the same chemistry, so the color would be easiest to stay the same, and that's why they use timing. There wouldn't be a noticeable doppler shift for light. Maybe the ones seen farther from your center of vision could appear different colors if there's a different concentration of receptors for different colors. I know not all colors can be seen equally well in peripheral vision. Red is worst. It is a nice night for fireflies, one of several lately in our yard. --Dave Nutter On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else notice that some of the flashes look like different colors. Reds and greens. Is this just like a Doppler shift type thing or are they really like that? Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote: It is wild out there...flashing of several kinds, low and high in trees. Give that it is hard to see birds right now, it is well worth a look outside for this pre-4th display. Vic Lamoureux put a similar alert out for Broome, on the Bluewing list. Apparently this is THE night so far if you are a firefly. anne -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
