Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

[anneb . clark]

Toby, if the bird is still there , can you cover it with a box or something. I can come get it if not too far. AnneSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 4, 2025, at 4:17 PM, Tim Gallagher  wrote:





I just noticed you said the bird is already dead. Sorry about my earlier post. I didn’t have time to read it closely. But you definitely shouldn’t leave it there for other animals to eat. If it does have avian influenza, it could infect whatever
 eats it—bird or mammal. I hope it can get tested. 

On Aug 4, 2025, at 7:48 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:





 
   Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on the
ground
 in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing outside
 the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal raven
behavior.
 It was dead this morning.
 
  My question is should I
A.
 Bury the body with gloves mask etc

B.
 Notify some agency about it

C.
 Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass?

 Thanks. 
  Toby Dean
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

[Tim Gallagher]

I just noticed you said the bird is already dead. Sorry about my earlier post. 
I didn’t have time to read it closely. But you definitely shouldn’t leave it 
there for other animals to eat. If it does have avian influenza, it could 
infect whatever eats it—bird or mammal. I hope it can get tested.

On Aug 4, 2025, at 7:48 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:


Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on the
ground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing 
outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal raven
behavior. It was dead this morning.
   My question is should I
A. Bury the body with gloves mask etc

B. Notify some agency about it

C. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass?

 Thanks.   Toby Dean
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

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Ravens infection with Wnv is much less well known than with Amcr. But if virus changes, so will risks.  I will check right away with Pathology. What is the address?  Send to me at aclark@ Binghamton.edu if possible. AnneSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 4, 2025, at 7:47 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:    Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on theground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal ravenbehavior. It was dead this morning.   My question is should IA. Bury the body with gloves mask etcB. Notify some agency about itC. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass? Thanks.   Toby Dean

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

[Greg Delisle]

Some years ago — maybe 10, I found a Raven roadkilled. It was in very good 
condition so I double-bagged it and brought it to the Vertebrate Collections at 
the Lab of O. They were glad to accept it because it was the first time a 
Common Raven specimen had been donated to the collection in 99 years. That’s 
not a typo! Apparently dead ravens are extremely rarely found, for many 
reasons, and this particular raven being hit by a car could only have happened 
if the bird was very, very sick to begin with. West Nile was presumed to be the 
culprit.

So, I would add to the advice below. Please be careful if you handle the bird, 
please do report it to the DEC, and if at all possible, freeze the bird in case 
it can be salvaged as a specimen by the CUMV. 

Greg

> On Aug 4, 2025, at 11:41 AM, Tim Gallagher  wrote:
> 
> If the bird does have avian influenza, it will probably be dead very soon. If 
> it does die, you should triple bag it in plastic trash bags—be sure to wear a 
> mask and disposable gloves. Then notify the DEC. Hopefully, they’ll get it 
> tested at Cornell.
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2025, at 7:48 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on the
>> ground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing 
>> outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal raven
>> behavior. It was dead this morning.
>>My question is should I
>> A. Bury the body with gloves mask etc
>> 
>> B. Notify some agency about it
>> 
>> C. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass?
>> 
>>  Thanks.   Toby Dean
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

[Tim Gallagher]

If the bird does have avian influenza, it will probably be dead very soon. If 
it does die, you should triple bag it in plastic trash bags—be sure to wear a 
mask and disposable gloves. Then notify the DEC. Hopefully, they’ll get it 
tested at Cornell.

On Aug 4, 2025, at 7:48 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:


Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on the
ground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing 
outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal raven
behavior. It was dead this morning.
   My question is should I
A. Bury the body with gloves mask etc

B. Notify some agency about it

C. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass?

 Thanks.   Toby Dean
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

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West Nile Virus might also be suspected, particularly because the victim is a corvid. -GeoOn Aug 4, 2025, at 7:47 AM, Tobias Dean  wrote:    Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on theground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal ravenbehavior. It was dead this morning.   My question is should IA. Bury the body with gloves mask etcB. Notify some agency about itC. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass? Thanks.   Toby Dean

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

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The tompkins county website has some info and a link to the DEC reporting form for dead birds https://www.tompkinscountyny.gov/All-Departments/Whole-Health/Community-Health-Services/Communicable-Disease/Bird-Flu#what-to-doSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 4, 2025, at 8:07 AM, John Gregoire  wrote:There is nothing unusual about a bird walking.  In fact Raven spend much time on the ground as do other avian species. Your questions appear to be a non-sequitur.On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 7:47 AM Tobias Dean  wrote:    Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on theground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing outside the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal ravenbehavior. It was dead this morning.   My question is should IA. Bury the body with gloves mask etcB. Notify some agency about itC. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass? Thanks.   Toby Dean

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raven and Avian Flu

[John Gregoire]

There is nothing unusual about a bird walking.  In fact Raven spend much
time on the ground as do other avian species. Your questions appear to be a
non-sequitur.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 7:47 AM Tobias Dean  wrote:

> Maybe overthinking this but we observed one of our local ravens on the
> ground in our orchard yesterday. It was walking away from my wife mowing 
> outside
> the orchard fence very slowly. Completely off normal raven
> behavior. It was dead this morning.
>My question is should I
> A. Bury the body with gloves mask etc
>
> B. Notify some agency about it
>
> C. Not worry about it and avian flu; let nature take care of the carcass?
>
>  Thanks.   Toby Dean
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