Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Peter
Come to think of it, a few year's back I saw 2 Canada Geese fearlessly 
go after a balk eagle who had come too near where they were

And I must say, I am always very impressed with a smaller bird's 
willingness to protect...a profile in courage.


On 7/18/2016 2:45 PM, AB Clark wrote:
> And the dangers are real:  I saw Red-winged Blackbirds lose their 
> nests to large bumbling goose families that, heads in the air, simply 
> walked the nests over and into the swamp.  It doesn’t require a 
> predator to do damage!
>
> Anne
>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Asher Hockett > > wrote:
>>
>> I have see R-w Blackbirds attack deer like this, grabbing hold just 
>> back of the shoulders, to get them to move away from their nest.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Margaret Shepard
On June 20, after a long train ride to Chicago, I spent an hour with family in 
Maggie Daley Park, being entertained on the children's playground by my 
grandson and by a thoroughly urban male RW Blackbird. The latter was
unexpected: many hundreds of active kids, no wetland or pond nearby, but lots 
of sprinklers, some shrubbery, plus whale tail and ship mast for perches. The 
RW seemed a serene observer of the chaos, perching, feeding, drinking within a 
few feet of the churning small humans. But every time the small, quiet, 
slow-moving playground custodian made her frequent rounds, the bird mobbed her, 
striking her cap forcefully and scolding. Based on the total lack of response 
from the custodian, I'd guess this was routine behavior; she must have 
threatened a nest at some point. There were plenty of other people in
pale baseball caps, so this was clearly a personal contest.

Margaret Shepard


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<bounce-120633056-3494...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Donna Lee Scott 
<d...@cornell.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:50 PM
To: Mike Pitzrick; Paul Schmitt
Cc: Dave K; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

While arriving at CLO for Wed. evening lecture of Spring Field Ornithology 
class in spring, I attempted to go to the main entrance by walking under the 
overhanging eaves of the building, when a very aggressive gander ran out and 
chased me all the way around to the main stonewall walkway !  Somebody should 
have had a video camera handy to record the ridiculous sight of me running and 
laughing while the goose chased me, honking all the way! Later, I saw a goose 
on a nest near the part of that small marsh that is down towards the delivery 
entrance.

Donna

Lansing Station Road
Lansing

From: bounce-120632962-15001...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120632962-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Pitzrick
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:01 PM
To: Paul Schmitt <pschmi...@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave K <fishwatch...@hotmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
<cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

A couple of years ago by the Lab of O I saw a Canada Goose repeated land on the 
shoulders of a white-tailed deer and peck the back of the neck and head, 
driving it away from a nearby nest.  I seem to recall that some of the Lab 
staff chose an alternate entrance to the building for a couple of weeks to 
avoid this aggressive gander.

-Mike

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Paul Schmitt 
<pschmi...@gmail.com<mailto:pschmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This got me to recalling that last summer I saw a RW Blackbird take offense at 
some Canada Geese there were too close to a nest at MNWR.  The male RWB 
attached the gander's back, taking hold and riding him out of the area.  It 
appeared the blackbird knew just where to be clear of the gander's beak.
Paul Schmitt

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Dave K 
<fishwatch...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishwatch...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

On the Eastern end of Eaton Marsh this AM, Kingbirds were defending against an 
Osprey. It's the first time I've seen the Kingbirds red crown which, 
apparently, they use in this situation.

https://flic.kr/p/K6Q3AJ

https://flic.kr/p/K6NNDN
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Cayuga Birds
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

As I drove south on NYS-89 west of Cayuga Lake this afternoon I saw a 
Red-tailed Hawk ahead, flying vigorously alongside the road, apparently having 
just been persuaded by an Eastern Kingbird to vacate a typical perch atop a 
power pole. As they crossed in front of me, the Kingbird closed the gap 
completely and appeared to land and remain between the shoulders of the flying 
hawk. They disappeared, still attached, behind farm buildings before I could 
tell what damage the Kingbird inflicted, but I bet it was pretty uncomfortable. 
Meanwhile second Kingbird had also joined the chase.

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Donna Lee Scott
While arriving at CLO for Wed. evening lecture of Spring Field Ornithology 
class in spring, I attempted to go to the main entrance by walking under the 
overhanging eaves of the building, when a very aggressive gander ran out and 
chased me all the way around to the main stonewall walkway !  Somebody should 
have had a video camera handy to record the ridiculous sight of me running and 
laughing while the goose chased me, honking all the way! Later, I saw a goose 
on a nest near the part of that small marsh that is down towards the delivery 
entrance.

Donna

Lansing Station Road
Lansing

From: bounce-120632962-15001...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120632962-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Pitzrick
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:01 PM
To: Paul Schmitt <pschmi...@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave K <fishwatch...@hotmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
<cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

A couple of years ago by the Lab of O I saw a Canada Goose repeated land on the 
shoulders of a white-tailed deer and peck the back of the neck and head, 
driving it away from a nearby nest.  I seem to recall that some of the Lab 
staff chose an alternate entrance to the building for a couple of weeks to 
avoid this aggressive gander.

-Mike

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Paul Schmitt 
<pschmi...@gmail.com<mailto:pschmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This got me to recalling that last summer I saw a RW Blackbird take offense at 
some Canada Geese there were too close to a nest at MNWR.  The male RWB 
attached the gander's back, taking hold and riding him out of the area.  It 
appeared the blackbird knew just where to be clear of the gander's beak.
Paul Schmitt

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Dave K 
<fishwatch...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishwatch...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

On the Eastern end of Eaton Marsh this AM, Kingbirds were defending against an 
Osprey. It's the first time I've seen the Kingbirds red crown which, 
apparently, they use in this situation.

https://flic.kr/p/K6Q3AJ

https://flic.kr/p/K6NNDN
[Image removed by sender.][Image removed by 
sender.]<https://www.flickr.com/photos/105424358@N06/28289055592/>

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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Cayuga Birds
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

As I drove south on NYS-89 west of Cayuga Lake this afternoon I saw a 
Red-tailed Hawk ahead, flying vigorously alongside the road, apparently having 
just been persuaded by an Eastern Kingbird to vacate a typical perch atop a 
power pole. As they crossed in front of me, the Kingbird closed the gap 
completely and appeared to land and remain between the shoulders of the flying 
hawk. They disappeared, still attached, behind farm buildings before I could 
tell what damage the Kingbird inflicted, but I bet it was pretty uncomfortable. 
Meanwhile second Kingbird had also joined the chase.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread AB Clark
And the dangers are real:  I saw Red-winged Blackbirds lose their nests to 
large bumbling goose families that, heads in the air, simply walked the nests 
over and into the swamp.  It doesn’t require a predator to do damage!

Anne
> On Jul 18, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Asher Hockett  wrote:
> 
> I have see R-w Blackbirds attack deer like this, grabbing hold just back of 
> the shoulders, to get them to move away from their nest.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Mike Pitzrick
A couple of years ago by the Lab of O I saw a Canada Goose repeated land on
the shoulders of a white-tailed deer and peck the back of the neck and
head, driving it away from a nearby nest.  I seem to recall that some of
the Lab staff chose an alternate entrance to the building for a couple of
weeks to avoid this aggressive gander.

-Mike

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Paul Schmitt  wrote:

> This got me to recalling that last summer I saw a RW Blackbird take
> offense at some Canada Geese there were too close to a nest at MNWR.  The
> male RWB attached the gander's back, taking hold and riding him out of the
> area.  It appeared the blackbird knew just where to be clear of the
> gander's beak.
>
> Paul Schmitt
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Dave K  wrote:
>
>> On the Eastern end of Eaton Marsh this AM, Kingbirds were defending
>> against an Osprey. It's the first time I've seen the Kingbirds red crown
>> which, apparently, they use in this situation.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/K6Q3AJ
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/K6NNDN
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* bounce-120630872-25047...@list.cornell.edu <
>> bounce-120630872-25047...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Dave Nutter <
>> nutter.d...@me.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:31 PM
>> *To:* Cayuga Birds
>> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds
>>
>> As I drove south on NYS-89 west of Cayuga Lake this afternoon I saw a
>> Red-tailed Hawk ahead, flying vigorously alongside the road, apparently
>> having just been persuaded by an Eastern Kingbird to vacate a typical perch
>> atop a power pole. As they crossed in front of me, the Kingbird closed the
>> gap completely and appeared to land and remain between the shoulders of the
>> flying hawk. They disappeared, still attached, behind farm buildings before
>> I could tell what damage the Kingbird inflicted, but I bet it was pretty
>> uncomfortable. Meanwhile second Kingbird had also joined the chase.
>>
>> --Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Schmitt
This got me to recalling that last summer I saw a RW Blackbird take offense
at some Canada Geese there were too close to a nest at MNWR.  The male RWB
attached the gander's back, taking hold and riding him out of the area.  It
appeared the blackbird knew just where to be clear of the gander's beak.

Paul Schmitt

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Dave K  wrote:

> On the Eastern end of Eaton Marsh this AM, Kingbirds were defending
> against an Osprey. It's the first time I've seen the Kingbirds red crown
> which, apparently, they use in this situation.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/K6Q3AJ
>
> https://flic.kr/p/K6NNDN
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* bounce-120630872-25047...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-120630872-25047...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Dave Nutter <
> nutter.d...@me.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:31 PM
> *To:* Cayuga Birds
> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds
>
> As I drove south on NYS-89 west of Cayuga Lake this afternoon I saw a
> Red-tailed Hawk ahead, flying vigorously alongside the road, apparently
> having just been persuaded by an Eastern Kingbird to vacate a typical perch
> atop a power pole. As they crossed in front of me, the Kingbird closed the
> gap completely and appeared to land and remain between the shoulders of the
> flying hawk. They disappeared, still attached, behind farm buildings before
> I could tell what damage the Kingbird inflicted, but I bet it was pretty
> uncomfortable. Meanwhile second Kingbird had also joined the chase.
>
> --Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

2016-07-18 Thread Dave K
On the Eastern end of Eaton Marsh this AM, Kingbirds were defending against an 
Osprey. It's the first time I've seen the Kingbirds red crown which, 
apparently, they use in this situation.

https://flic.kr/p/K6Q3AJ

https://flic.kr/p/K6NNDN

[https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7675/28289055592_8e8ba2fde7_b.jpg][https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7675/28289055592_8e8ba2fde7_b.jpg]


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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Cayuga Birds
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Why larger predatory birds flee smaller birds

As I drove south on NYS-89 west of Cayuga Lake this afternoon I saw a 
Red-tailed Hawk ahead, flying vigorously alongside the road, apparently having 
just been persuaded by an Eastern Kingbird to vacate a typical perch atop a 
power pole. As they crossed in front of me, the Kingbird closed the gap 
completely and appeared to land and remain between the shoulders of the flying 
hawk. They disappeared, still attached, behind farm buildings before I could 
tell what damage the Kingbird inflicted, but I bet it was pretty uncomfortable. 
Meanwhile second Kingbird had also joined the chase.

--Dave Nutter

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