If you do not have book to questions and pass how can you... its very simple
everyone required the same i believe.
I am interested to share if anyone interested please email me so that i can
chat with you
Appreciated for the guys who is interested and can understand my pain.
I felt the same pain today after my attempt.
From: Mohamed Hassan mrmha...@gmail.com
To: Emanuel Damasceno aedamasc...@gmail.com
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Pablo
Meneses pmenese...@gmail.com; sam max sammaxc...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab 6 released ):
I like this post agree 100% with you guys that's why I will not go for CCIE
until I feel I deserve it
On Jan 22, 2012 6:24 PM, Emanuel Damasceno aedamasc...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Abel.
It's just that here in Brazil, employers have high expectation of a CCIE. So,
let's say I memorize a dump of the exam and pass. When it comes the real deal,
and you are in the middle of a kickoff meeting for a project and a question is
brought up that is pretty basic and I don't know, people will start
questioning about my ability as CCIE. There are things that we NEED to know
and things that are forgiven when you don't. And I am not even talking about
configuring phones, servers, routers, switches, I am talking about the basics
that we all should know and love.
I've worked around the world (United States, Angola, Portugal, now settled in
Brazil) and I've seen many CCIEs. Most of those were Routing and Switching,
and a few of those didn't know the basics of RS. I am illiterate in Routing
and Switch, but I do have a little knowledge of it and it is sad to see those
CCIEs making awful sins on their own field.
I am not here to judge anyone, it's not that. And I already said nobody knows
everything. But RS guys who don't know what a /25 mask mean for example, you
start to wonder how that guy is a CCIE. This example was used, because it was
the first that came in my mind, but of course it wasn't nothing like that. But
you guys get my meaning. It's just like us in Voice, if you don't know what
Partitions and CSSs are used for, you don't have the right to carry a CCNP
Voice title, for example. It's just that. :)
Good luck to all CCIE students. I am going back to my lab, because my exam
date is right around the corner and I hope not to fail this time.
Emanuel Damasceno
CCNP Voice
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Abel ... midga...@gmail.com wrote:
Experts have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and education
in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of expert is well
established by consensus and therefore it is not necessary for an individual
to have a professional or academic qualification for them to be accepted as an
expert. In this respect, a shepherd with 50 years of experience tending flocks
would be widely recognized as having complete expertise in the use and
training of sheep dogs and the care of sheep. Wikipedia
So, if you pass it with that kind of stuff... at the end what really define
you as a expert is how much time of you life you dedicated to farm sheeps,
sorry I mean type on a CLI of a router or dial a number waiting for the
desired result in a phone. Like in all the matters of life (music, cooking,
arts) there would be some less motivated people who want to be considered as
a qualified person following the easy way, but at the end, the true
professional can identify those individuals in the field.
At the end we all used some kind of dumbs to learn, like the IPX Workbooks,
the different is, one have all the possible situation and the other is a real
scam. The choice to take the best path for a real professional experience is
defined by the people, not the difficulty of the test. Even is the test
is set a DN to the phone, there would always looking for the easy way to do
it.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Emanuel Damasceno aedamasc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thank you for your input Pablo.
I was actually say something, but I kept it to myself. Now that you have
said something, I have to put my 2 cents as well.
These guys say they have the exam, and that they didn't pass probably
because they tried to memorize the whole exam with a bunch of dumps.
MEMORIZING is completely different from LEARNING.
The exam has to be hard. I have been there and I saw it is completely
passable. My first attempt was a disaster and I have nobody to blame but
myself. I underestimated the exam and paid a very steep price (money wise).
All we have to do is study, know Call Routing by heart, solve problems
quickly and also know where to find the helps on Cisco DocCD. NOBODY knows
everything, only GOD knows.
If you want to risk your money and your certifications on this, go right
ahead and BUY those supposedly leaked exams.
All these studies made me a better CCNP Voice and
