[OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP TroubleShooting

2013-07-17 Thread IE Target
The message which indicates that an MGCP call is tearing down is

MDCX or DLCX.??

 Some guys say that it is DLCX no MDCX

May be some one who got marks in this section can clarify


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP TroubleShooting

2013-07-17 Thread Justin Carney
Every (normal) teardown in MGCP begins with MDCX (and M: recvonly) and
then teardown is complete with DLCX. There is a slight difference in debug
order if you are debugging both Q931 and MGCP packets but in normal cases
you should see MDCX then DLCX in all teardowns (except temp failure or
other anomalies).

IF PSTN side ends call (from GW perspective):


   1. *trigger* PSTN side ends call
   2. *Q931 RX disconnect *(PSTN to CUCM via GW)
   3. *MGCP MDCX* (CUCM to GW)
   4. MGCP 200 OK (GW to CUCM)
   5. *MGCP DLCX *(CUCM to GW)
   6. MGCP 250 OK (GW to CUCM)
   7. *Q931 TX release* (CUCM via GW to PSTN)
   8. *Q931 RX release complete* (PSTN to CUCM via GW)

IF CUCM side ends call (from GW perspective):


   1. *trigger* IP phone ends call (SCCP or SIP to CUCM)
   2. *MGCP MDCX* (CUCM to GW)
   3. MGCP 200 OK (GW to CUCM)
   4. *Q931 TX disconnect*(CUCM via GW to PSTN)
   5. *Q931 RX release *(PSTN to CUCM via GW)
   6. *MGCP DLCX* (CUCM to GW)
   7. MGCP 250 OK (GW to CUCM)
   8. *Q931 TX release complete* (CUCM via GW to PSTN)

To replicate these logs above you need to turn on only two debugs:
debug mgcp packets
debug isdn q931


In other words, in MGCP you always have MDCX/200 OK then DLCX/250 OK.  For
ISDN you always have DISCONNECT (side that hung up), RELEASE (side that
didn't hang up), and RELEASE_COMPLETE (side that hung up.  The side that
hangs up dictates how the MGCP and Q931 messages are interleaved.


Does this help?

I know the real question you're asking is which answer is the lab looking
for - I cannot answer that but it depends on the question's wording.  I
haven't passed yet but I believe I got an MGCP debug question correct based
on my score report.

If the question states show the MGCP/Q931 debug where the call *begins to
teardown* I would personally use MDCX/DISCONNECT.  If the question states
...where call *teardown is complete* then I would use the DLCX/RELEASE
COMPLETE.

If the question is not worded clearly then talk to the proctor - if you
explain that you understand the FULL teardown process (similar to above)
but you are not sure which to use, they will understand that you know what
you are doing and not just fishing for an answer.  Still, you may get the
common use your best judgement response...because they cannot answer
confirming questions.  Worst case, if after all this you still weren't
sure, you could include BOTH debugs in the notepad file and put comments in
there explaining the start/end of the teardown.


-Justin



On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM, IE Target myfrnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The message which indicates that an MGCP call is tearing down is

 MDCX or DLCX.??

  Some guys say that it is DLCX no MDCX

 May be some one who got marks in this section can clarify


 Thanks

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP TroubleShooting

2013-07-17 Thread Ovidiu Popa
Hello

Haven't taken the lab but my money is on DLCX. I acknowledge that it is
possible that they redefined the notion of call teardown for the lab but I
doubt it.

Regards,
Ovidiu

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-mgcp-flows-01

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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:22 PM, IE Target myfrnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The message which indicates that an MGCP call is tearing down is

 MDCX or DLCX.??

  Some guys say that it is DLCX no MDCX

 May be some one who got marks in this section can clarify


 Thanks

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP TroubleShooting

2013-07-17 Thread Bill Lake
My guess is that they want you to know that

MDCX is hey the is a change coming
DLCX  is hey the change I warned you about is disconnect.

AUEP, AUCX, CRCX, DLCX, EPCF, MDCX, NTFY, RQNT, RSIP

 AUEP - Audit Endpoint
 AUCX - Audit Connection
 CRCX - Create Connection
 DLCX - Delete Connection
 MDCX - Modify Connection
 RQNT - Request for Notification
 EPCF - Endpoint Configuration
 NTFY - Notify
 RSIP - Restart In Progress


RFC 3435 - Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Version 1.0 (this
supersedes RFC 2705)

RFC 3660 - Basic Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Packages
(informational)
RFC 3661 - Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Return Code Usage
RFC 3064 - MGCP CAS Packages
RFC 3149 - MGCP Business Phone Packages

RFC 3991 - Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Redirect and Reset Package
RFC 3992 - Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Lockstep State
Reporting Mechanism (informational)
RFC 2805 - Media Gateway Control Protocol Architecture and Requirements

RFC 2897 - Proposal for an MGCP Advanced Audio Package




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Justin Carney justin.s.car...@gmail.comwrote:

 Every (normal) teardown in MGCP begins with MDCX (and M: recvonly) and
 then teardown is complete with DLCX. There is a slight difference in debug
 order if you are debugging both Q931 and MGCP packets but in normal cases
 you should see MDCX then DLCX in all teardowns (except temp failure or
 other anomalies).

 IF PSTN side ends call (from GW perspective):


1. *trigger* PSTN side ends call
2. *Q931 RX disconnect *(PSTN to CUCM via GW)
3. *MGCP MDCX* (CUCM to GW)
4. MGCP 200 OK (GW to CUCM)
5. *MGCP DLCX *(CUCM to GW)
6. MGCP 250 OK (GW to CUCM)
7. *Q931 TX release* (CUCM via GW to PSTN)
8. *Q931 RX release complete* (PSTN to CUCM via GW)

 IF CUCM side ends call (from GW perspective):


1. *trigger* IP phone ends call (SCCP or SIP to CUCM)
2. *MGCP MDCX* (CUCM to GW)
3. MGCP 200 OK (GW to CUCM)
4. *Q931 TX disconnect*(CUCM via GW to PSTN)
5. *Q931 RX release *(PSTN to CUCM via GW)
6. *MGCP DLCX* (CUCM to GW)
7. MGCP 250 OK (GW to CUCM)
8. *Q931 TX release complete* (CUCM via GW to PSTN)

 To replicate these logs above you need to turn on only two debugs:
 debug mgcp packets
 debug isdn q931


 In other words, in MGCP you always have MDCX/200 OK then DLCX/250 OK.  For
 ISDN you always have DISCONNECT (side that hung up), RELEASE (side that
 didn't hang up), and RELEASE_COMPLETE (side that hung up.  The side that
 hangs up dictates how the MGCP and Q931 messages are interleaved.


 Does this help?

 I know the real question you're asking is which answer is the lab looking
 for - I cannot answer that but it depends on the question's wording.  I
 haven't passed yet but I believe I got an MGCP debug question correct based
 on my score report.

 If the question states show the MGCP/Q931 debug where the call *begins to
 teardown* I would personally use MDCX/DISCONNECT.  If the question
 states ...where call *teardown is complete* then I would use the
 DLCX/RELEASE COMPLETE.

 If the question is not worded clearly then talk to the proctor - if you
 explain that you understand the FULL teardown process (similar to above)
 but you are not sure which to use, they will understand that you know what
 you are doing and not just fishing for an answer.  Still, you may get the
 common use your best judgement response...because they cannot answer
 confirming questions.  Worst case, if after all this you still weren't
 sure, you could include BOTH debugs in the notepad file and put comments in
 there explaining the start/end of the teardown.


 -Justin



 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM, IE Target myfrnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The message which indicates that an MGCP call is tearing down is

 MDCX or DLCX.??

  Some guys say that it is DLCX no MDCX

 May be some one who got marks in this section can clarify


 Thanks

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP troubleshooting

2012-02-10 Thread Jeferson Guardia
Hi,

This was a stupid mistake while practicing IPX vol.2 lab #5.. on the
pre-config it says all mgcp config is ready built-in and I was sleepy that
night doing that lab, I didnt really fully checked it, the other day I was
repeating the same lab, fresh and I caught a really basic mistake:

My mgcp config was really everything there, it was registering but on the
IPX proctorlabs INITIAL configs,  the isdn bind-l3 command in just ONE site
it was missing, yes, basic and stupid, you can easily see that doing a show
isdn status, I dont know what the hell happened to me that night.. but
making basic mistakes is good, it forced me to spend sometime learning over
the basic overall config/structure for mgcp, I went beyond that, played
with debugs, removed a few commands, tried to see each behavior for each
type of config when something is missing.. even more familiar with the
debugs now..

thanks,

2012/2/10 Rick Long rick.l...@ensi.com

 I've seen this behavior on a H323 gateway when a dial-peer was not set to
 forward the calls to Call Manager.

 Can you run a debug voice ccapi inout  to see if your call is matching a
 dialpeer on your gateway instead of using MGCP to forward the call to Call
 Manager?

 If it is being processed by a dial-peer you may just need to issue an no
 mgcp mgcp command to re-associated the device with Call Manager.

 HTH

 Rick Long

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 Hello,

 Unless  the number is not coming in en bloc. In overlap-receiving mode,
 digits would come in digit by digit.
 can you post the output of debug isdn q931?

 Thanks,
 /Baktha


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  debug mgcp packets
 
  Trace in CUCM
 
  On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   What are the techniques most used to perform MGCP troubleshooting?
  
   Yesterday I was doing a lab and had a router with pstn integration,
   it
  was
   set for a CSS where my phones had visibility and significant digits =
 4.
   But whenever I would call out from the PSTN, I would get a second
   dial tone, I would see the call kicking in thru debug isdn q931 but
   my phone would simply not ring. Any ideas how to verify that possible
 behavior ?
   Articles? tech guides?
  
   Thanks,
  
   --
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   CCIE #28157
  
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP troubleshooting

2012-02-08 Thread Jeferson Guardia
Hi,

What are the techniques most used to perform MGCP troubleshooting?

Yesterday I was doing a lab and had a router with pstn integration, it was
set for a CSS where my phones had visibility and significant digits = 4.
But whenever I would call out from the PSTN, I would get a second dial
tone, I would see the call kicking in thru debug isdn q931 but my phone
would simply not ring. Any ideas how to verify that possible behavior ?
Articles? tech guides?

Thanks,

-- 
Jeferson Guardia
CCIE #28157
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP troubleshooting

2012-02-08 Thread datucha123 datucha123
debug mgcp packets

Trace in CUCM

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 What are the techniques most used to perform MGCP troubleshooting?

 Yesterday I was doing a lab and had a router with pstn integration, it was
 set for a CSS where my phones had visibility and significant digits = 4.
 But whenever I would call out from the PSTN, I would get a second dial
 tone, I would see the call kicking in thru debug isdn q931 but my phone
 would simply not ring. Any ideas how to verify that possible behavior ?
 Articles? tech guides?

 Thanks,

 --
 Jeferson Guardia
 CCIE #28157

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MGCP troubleshooting

2012-02-08 Thread Baktha Muralidharan
Hello,

Unless  the number is not coming in en bloc. In overlap-receiving mode,
digits would come in digit by digit.
can you post the output of debug isdn q931?

Thanks,
/Baktha


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 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:03:32 +0400
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 debug mgcp packets

 Trace in CUCM

 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  What are the techniques most used to perform MGCP troubleshooting?
 
  Yesterday I was doing a lab and had a router with pstn integration, it
 was
  set for a CSS where my phones had visibility and significant digits = 4.
  But whenever I would call out from the PSTN, I would get a second dial
  tone, I would see the call kicking in thru debug isdn q931 but my phone
  would simply not ring. Any ideas how to verify that possible behavior ?
  Articles? tech guides?
 
  Thanks,
 
  --
  Jeferson Guardia
  CCIE #28157
 
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