Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand geometry

2012-04-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Uma, How different are your NADs optimised in Refmac and Coot? Are you sure you are using the same geometric restraints? Coot has to know where Refmac's restraint files are. This info is passed through an environment setting on your computer (I don't know the name by hart. Anyone?). Are you

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand geometry

2012-04-29 Thread H. Raaijmakers
Hmm, what are the perfect bonds, angles for NAD in your protein? remember that reactive groups can be in a stressed conformation, compared to ideal in vacuo conformations. As part of their functon. anyway, you'll have to check the restraints definition file (.cif). Bond lengths and angles are

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand geometry

2012-04-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I think you will find the dictionaries for coot and refmac are different.. REFMAC default dictionary will $CLIBD/monomers/n/NAD.cif Good knows where coot finds its dictionaries - Paul? 1) check the REFMAC restraints in that dictionary are sensible - spec, are the planes and chiral centres as

Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand geometry

2012-04-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Quasi on-topic rant: I would advice against using the 'both' option for any well defined ligand. It's a hack to avoid thinking about which atom belongs where and it allows you to be inconsistent. This makes it difficult for others to use your model, because aligning atoms of ligands becomes

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic diffraction

2012-04-29 Thread Dale Tronrud
If the data set had P6 symmetry before anisotropic scaling it would keep that symmetry afterwards. If it was only P2 symmetry before, it certainly would not have P6 afterwards. Any anisotropic scaling I've seen constrains the anisotropy to the lattice symmetry so symmetry cannot be degraded

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic diffraction

2012-04-29 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi Chen, I see your point now. Yes, I agree that the 80:20 method (or 75:25 as stated in the paper, http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@dl.ac.uk/msg01063.html) is a very useful technique. The fact that it does not take much effort or lead to uncertainties makes it very worth trying. Here I