This website is quite useful (via Expasy):

http://gcua.schoedl.de/

Raphael



Mo Wong schrieb:
Thanks for the reply.

I've checked my sequence for rare codons; however, what would be useful to a pseudo-molecular biologist like me is a web server which will look at your input DNA sequence and guesstimate the success of expression in E. coli (i.e., consider codon frequency). Does one exist? Even better, a web server that offers the choice of different commercial forms of E. coli (i.e., Rosetta and Codon+)? I tried Googling this a few days ago and didn't find anything too useful?

Cheers!

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <ar...@xtals.org <mailto:ar...@xtals.org>> wrote:

    Hi,

    The question you have to ask yourself first is - does my gene actually
    *have* the rare codons that you're trying to avoid? Experience
    shows that
    usually it's not single codons that are a problem but pairs or
    triplets of
    rare ones. If your gene does not have obviously bad codon
    combinations you
    still may derive a benefit from codon optimization and especially from
    mRNA structure shuffling. There are articles out there that attempt to
    present statistically significant evidence and I tend to agree
    with them -
    the practice of optimizing codon usage AND mRNA structure is a
    good and
    useful one.

    >From what you describe, you're working with a kinase. It is not
    at all
    uncommon to have toxicity of kinases for E. coli. Additional issues
    include heterogenous phosphorylation if the kinase is normally
    active or
    can auto-activate in E.coli (classical example is PKA which can
    phosphorylate itself in up to 30 places given the right conditions).

    Toxicity isn't difficult to spot - classical signs include
    microcolonies,
    heterogenous colonies, slow growth, plasmid instability and so on.
    Even
    with a native gene you would likely notice these symptoms to some
    extent.

    Incidentally - toxicity usually equals folding, i.e. for a kinase
    to be
    toxic at least some of it has to be folded enough to work. This is
    actually *good news* because toxicity can be combated on a
    different level
    than lack of folded expression. For example, co-expression with
    phosphatases tends to work miracles for kinase-based toxicity.

    Finally, to answer your question directly - yes, i've seen several
    cases
    of proteins not expressing even with rare codon tRNA supplemented in
    trans, but expressing well from optimized DNA. Again - optimized for
    codons AND structure, as I've never separated the two processes.

    Synthetic DNA is cheap these days. If you can afford it - it's
    useful to
    try before taking the next step. In this case the obvious next step is
    attempt at expression in insect cells - kinases usually work out
    really
    well in IC.

    Artem



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