Hi ???,

I would first try AMPLE, as was suggested by Daniel.

If separate helices still give you an anti-parallel coiled coil, your structure 
may in fact be anti-parallel. Your problem is not that the structure has 
another parallelity than you would like, but that you cannot solve the MR 
problem. If your structure turns out to be anti-parallel, that’s what it is, as 
long as the structure has been solved correctly.

How do your electron density maps look like: do you see any difference density 
for mutated side chains? Do you see any hints how to extend your shorter model? 
Did you do any refinement? If your MR solution is basically correct, the 
Rfactor might drop quite quickly during refinement, if not, the Rfactor may 
stay stuck or explode.

Best,
Herman


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Hi

The resolution of my data is 2.8A, and the Rfree/Rwork are 0.55/0.49 which are 
very high. And I was separate them when I do MR, the solution is still  
anti-parallel coiled-coil after MR. Does it mean I MUST DO anomolous phasing ?
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Hi ???,

Coiled coil structures can be very tricky with MR, so your solution may not be 
correct. You could try to split your search model and run MR with the separate 
coils. If you have high enough resolution (> ~2.3 Å?) and your MR solution is 
basically correct, you may be able to solve your problem by rebuilding and 
refinement, but this may be a lot of work. Without any details (resolution of 
the data, current Rwork/Rfree etc.) it is difficult to give any more specific 
advice.

Best,
Herman

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Hi everyone

   I have got a anti-parallel coiled-coil structure in a short fragment 
recently, then I want to solve a longer fragment structure with phenix-MR using 
this short fragment structure as a model.The result is not good because of the 
Rwork and Rfree is 
high.So<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__high.So&d=DQQGaQ&c=Dbf9zoswcQ-CRvvI7VX5j3HvibIuT3ZiarcKl5qtMPo&r=HK-CY_tL8CLLA93vdywyu3qI70R4H8oHzZyRHMQu1AQ&m=66oGBkFu_vOT7n3Fp-7licSV3JzUrtBbobSB9EEKws0&s=wYjH3MkMtX51bkladsLunNIv3g08mTlwh2zW9rna7rA&e=>
 I think the longer fragment will be parallel coiled-coil which is different 
with the shorter one. I am wondering whether there are any other methods to 
handle this phenomenon besides heavy atom phasing? Thanks a lot!!!

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