Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-03-03 Thread D Bonsor
Thanks for the all the comments on/off board. Especially for papers describing this method as it may be handy if the structure is solved. The crystals are reproducible. They have started to appear after 4 days. I can accelerate it to a day using just 1.5M NaCl as a reservoir solution, though I

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-03-02 Thread Enrico Stura
Dear ccp4bb, 1. Why would you need a precipitant to crystallize a protein? The principle of salting-in/salting-out means that as you remove the salt that keeps a protein soluble, the protein will tend to come out of solution and given the right conditions, crystallize. 2. From the

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-03-01 Thread CRAIG A BINGMAN
On Mar 1, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Shaun Lott > wrote: They diffracted, but weren't much use to us in the end, as they were hard to reproduce or optimise. Hopefully you have more luck than we did! This sometimes happens with extremely soluble

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-03-01 Thread Shaun Lott
We have seen a similar thing once, where we obtained proteins crystals simply by dehydration of the drop: Sharpe, M. L., Baker, E. N., and Lott, J. S. (2005) Crystallization of a protein using dehydration without a precipitant. Acta Crystallogr Sect F Struct Biol Cryst Commun 61, 565–568.

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-02-28 Thread CRAIG A BINGMAN
> Could it be possible that the robot never dispensed the reservoir solution > and the protein just crystallized against the reservoir solution through > simple concentration? I have just set up a couple of drops just against > reservoir solution. If this is the case, has anyone else

[ccp4bb] Crystallization with no precipitant

2017-02-28 Thread D Bonsor
Dear All, I have produced crystals from a robotic screen (API) in two conditions. However, I have not been able to reproduce them. They originally grew in 2.5 days (over the weekend, though it could have been sooner). I noticed that when I first set up the tray, these two wells were clear but