Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-09 Thread Clayton, Gina
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of dusky dew Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:29 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight Thank you all for getting back! I will set up the drops using microbatch method. Regarding the temp, I set them

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-09 Thread Shane Caldwell
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of dusky dew Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:29 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight Thank you all for getting back! I will set up the drops using microbatch method. Regarding the temp, I set them up in lab and put them

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-08 Thread Dr. Anthony Addlagatta
:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight *** This message has been scanned by the InterScan for CSC SSM at IICT and found to be free of known security risks. *** I tried microbatch and the crystals are not stable. They dissolve

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-03 Thread dusky dew
: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of dusky dew Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:39 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight Dear All, I am trying to crystallize a protein with Adenosine. My protein is in 20 mM Tris, 300 mM

[ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-02 Thread dusky dew
Dear All, I am trying to crystallize a protein with Adenosine. My protein is in 20 mM Tris, 300 mM NaCl and the crystals appear in a condition with 5 percent PEG8K, 0.1 M Sodium Cacodylate. The protein is incubated with adenosine for 1/2 hr before setting the drop. The crystals appear right

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-02 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Maria, this is similar to the condition I used for my PhD thesis. I suppose the following happens: when you mix the drop the protein crystallises by inverse salting-in because you dilute the high-salt concentration. This happens instantaneously

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-02 Thread Matthew BOWLER
Dear Tim, you are right that 150mM NaCl is 'stronger' than 2.5% PEG. If you calculate the relative humidity difference between 150 and 300mM Nacl you get 99.5 vs 98.9% whereas the difference between 5 and 2.5% P8K is 99.96 vs 99.99% ie virtually nothing. You can calculate these values here:

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals Disappearing Overnight

2014-05-02 Thread Matthew Franklin
Hi Maria - I think you already have a likely answer, but here's another one which I have observed many times: Temperature differences. If your crystallization plate is moved from one temperature to another (lab vs. crystal incubator), or even if it's left on the bench but the lab